Torque and horsepower

[BryanPD]

thanks guys

reason why i'm comparing torque and power is..... i am choosing between SUV or CAR (sportivo and civic 2.0) as our family car

(both are great for us family of 4; i'm only comparing the engine's capabilities)

just asked you the question torque or Hp coz i thought
sportivo has the greater torque but less power
civic has greater power but low in torque

sad to say i found out that on my comparison civic won, both in torque and ponypower...

so decided to buy a civic 2.0 this december



THANKS SA LAHAT ............

[alwayz_yummy]

its pointless to compare an AUV to a car! (sportivo is not and will never be a SUV!)

weight and power factor comes in.. in this case your just like comparing an apple (civic) to a kalabasa(sportivo)

kung gusto mo torque and HP in a car-->FOCUS diesel/accent diesel....

wag ka padala sa civic masyado,oo maganda at masyadong pa-silaw ang honda-badge sa atin,pero mas maraming usable torque ang focus at alam ko lacally assmbled na yang focus-diesel..and hello, 34/L ang diesel... ang gasoline is 40/L!

sorry kung pinatulan ko, ha, sooooooo foolish namang i-compare ang outdated sportivo sa FD-civic 2.0!

[rion]

sportivo has the greater torque but less power
civic has greater power but low in torque

Sportivo: 79.89HP /185Nm torque [SIZE="5"]VS[/SIZE] Honda Civic 2.0: 152.88HP/188.35Nm

mas mataas pa ang torque ng Civic 2.0.

and of all diesels, why did you compare the same old Isuzu engine?
kahit D-Max nalang ang ginamit mong pang comparison... :hysterical:

[BryanPD2009]

I’m just asking what's more important to consider, the torque or hp.
Nagkataon lang na Sportivo at Civic ang pinagpipilian ko for family use…
I am not comparing the capabilities of the auv and a car....


When I started this thread, all I know is that sportivo has a 2.5 turbo diesel. Since it has a turbo, maybe torque must be above 250 Nm similar to the Toyota 2.5 D4D (I have no idea that the 4JA1 turbo only produces 185 Nm torque, but I do know that the diesel engine and the chassis is heavier compared to the civic, that’s common sense)


Turbo diesel 250 Nm torque but lesser hp, up against the Civic K Engine 200+ hp but with lower in torque.

So I asked you guys, on my first post


ano po ang mas nakakaapekto sa performance ng car, torque o power?
2 cars, A and B. both cars same specs(weight, gear ratio, size, drag coeff... basta lahat na).. except car A has greater power but lesser torque, car B has lesser power but greater torque.



on my second post
I'm only comparing the engine capabilities

What’s soooooooooooooooooooo foolish about that???

[ramledi]

bro ano ang kinuha mong sasakyan?

isuzu sana pang harabas kasi yan hehehe

[alwayz_yummy]

kung more than 5 ka palagi get the isuzu.. otherwise get the car.

city streets--need max torque*lower rpm--1800-2000 rpm max torque na! kaya diesels are best city cars

worth looking din ang livina/carens as your option if you need that occasional 2-seater 3rd row....

[BryanPD2009]

bro ano ang kinuha mong sasakyan?

isuzu sana pang harabas kasi yan hehehe

SUV sana fortuner/alterra
Last December 2007, napagdesisyonan na Brand new Isuzu sportivo na lang...
Then, yung extra na budget, pinambili 2nd hand Mitsu Lancer MX 2000...
2 rides for the price of one new SUV...

1 year and 7 mos na yung sportivo, pero 10,000+kms pa land odo reading. di kasi nagagamit ng husto, yung Lancer rin ginagamit na madalas.
2 rides for the price of one new SUV...

2000rpm * 5th gear ng sportivo, nasa 80km/h na takbo kaya super tipid talaga.

No problem din sa Kennon Rd at mountain pass n.vizcaya-isabela...

Ganun lang pala yun, importante rin pala malaman kung saang RPM naabot ang max torque... hindi lang yung torque mismo...
Hindi puro Horsepower....

Ito pinagtataka ko sa makina ng Crosswind.
yung 4JA1 NA 81 ps
4JA1 Turbo 85 ps

so 4 ps lang idinagdag ng turbo dahil "low-charged turbo" ito???
What if ipa-tune pa ito?

[niky]

You can try to check out dvldoc's posts. His devil'sown alcohol kits should net you around 5-20 hp more on the 4JA1T.

The reason the turbo doesn't make much power is because the boost is very low... about 5-6 psi only on my (admittedly) old Crosswind.

[KERSMcRae]

its pointless to compare an AUV to a car! (sportivo is not and will never be a SUV!)

weight and power factor comes in.. in this case your just like comparing an apple (civic) to a kalabasa(sportivo)

kung gusto mo torque and HP in a car-->FOCUS diesel/accent diesel....

wag ka padala sa civic masyado,oo maganda at masyadong pa-silaw ang honda-badge sa atin,pero mas maraming usable torque ang focus at alam ko lacally assmbled na yang focus-diesel..and hello, 34/L ang diesel... ang gasoline is 40/L!

sorry kung pinatulan ko, ha, sooooooo foolish namang i-compare ang outdated sportivo sa FD-civic 2.0!

mukhang na-'hurt' yata mga Civics ng i-compare (sa Crosswind) ang HP & Torque of these two 'Automobile of the Year ' awardees.
(Crosswind/Sportivo=2006 and Civic=2007).

:peace:

[KERSMcRae]

I admit, Im also unfamiliar of "which is more important- power or torque"?

At first, I pick horsepower (or simply power) is more important thing to consider in buying a vehicle instead of the torque. Until I read an article saying torque is the one that really matters (Metro Manila driving).

Soon I will also buying a vehicle for my own family, and with Toyota having both gas and diesel engines on its Innova line-up, I might end up on a dilema like the TS.

If I will decide to get the Innova, which one (gas or diesel) is the most ideal in terms of the following:
1. # of occupants/passengers> 2-5 persons.
I being the driver (always)
2. 80:20 City:Highway (Uphill) driving.
City> Home-Office on weekdays, To the malls & 'palengke' on weekends.
Hi-way> To Ilocos & Baguio monthly or during long holidays,
up to 5 persons + baggage
3. Again, Power and/or Torque is the main concern,
Budget and FC are just secondary (although feedback on FC is a great help).

All inputs are highly appreciated. TIA.

[niky]

Gasoline. It's a better engine, it's quieter, it requires less maintenance and it's pretty flexible for a gasser... and fuel consumption is decent (at least it's a lot better than the poorly programmed EFI of the Revo).