New API CK-4/FA-4 Diesel Engine Oil Spec

[roydok]

Available currently is the highest spec diesel engine oil API CK-4 which offers the best protection and performance. Anyone knows a particular brand of diesel engine oil which is sold here in the Philippines which meets this spec? Highest I found so far is API CJ-4 which is available in most fully synthetic diesel engine oils.

API | New API Certified CK-4 and FA-4 Diesel Engine Oils are Available Beginning December 1

Webinar: New API CK-4 & FA-4 Diesel Engine Oil Specifications - YouTube

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[K.I.L.L.]

I think for normal applications API CI/CJ is more than enough. Why do you want an API of CK?

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[babkalakal]

Locally wala pa ako nakita but in the US I've come across shell rotella t6 with the CK.

I think tama si K.I.L.L. apart from the new rating it is much like API's rating for gasoline oil (sl, sm, sn) a lot if not majority of top shelf 100% synthetics for diesel surpass CJ rating yun nga lang naglabas ng baong rating kaya ayan. Changing to CK specs may not necessarily give you tangible advantages you might be seeking.

Also yun na metion ko na rotella t6 was previously rates CJ ata kaya ngayon bago na packaging uli. I assume to incorporate the "new" specs. If they changed the formulation I'm not privy to that.

[StockEngine]

Fords statement on Api-ck

https://www.flsheriffs.org/uploads/d..._Statement.pdf

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[jaggerx3]

Bat ba walang Rotella dito? May nakita ako sa Blade pero mongrade o old stock pa

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[StockEngine]

royal dutch brand(shell umbrella) ang rotella. but its branding will collide with shell helix diesel and their rimula diesel oils.

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[roydok]

I think for normal applications API CI/CJ is more than enough. Why do you want an API of CK?

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For better protection if its available.

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[StockEngine]

For better protection if its available.

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ano recommended oil nakalagay sa owners manual ng vehicle mo? api-cf?

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[roydok]

Minimum API CD or better.

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[roydok]

My question is not about whether API CK-4 is enough or more than enough for my vehicle rather if it is available in the Phils. Thank you.

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[EssB]

Newer API specs does not necessary mean better protection. In fact, baka nga less protection pa dahil sa restriction on the use of friction modifiers/additives for emissions control.

Looks like need pang magubos ng stocks ng mga retailers and distributors bago nila ilabas new stocks with the new API specs.

[StockEngine]

Newer API specs does not necessary mean better protection. In fact, baka nga less protection pa dahil sa restriction on the use of friction modifiers/additives for emissions control.

Looks like need pang magubos ng stocks ng mga retailers and distributors bago nila ilabas new stocks with the new API specs.

correct. this is probably low saps which is not good for asean ppvs..

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[kisshmet]

^this comment made me wonder if ASEAN ppv engines are not made of metal

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[leoblack9]

Question lang sirs, bakit po hindi pa sikat ang CK-4 oils dito sa Pinas?

Most are using CJ-4 or even CI-4 sa casas (Isuzu uses CI-4 sa Dmax, Toyota TGMO 5w40 is CF rated I think).

[StockEngine]

Question lang sirs, bakit po hindi pa sikat ang CK-4 oils dito sa Pinas?

Most are using CJ-4 or even CI-4 sa casas (Isuzu uses CI-4 sa Dmax, Toyota TGMO 5w40 is CF rated I think).

manufacturers stick with their recommended oils. which vehicle in the market requires ck? wala naman siguro

[leoblack9]

manufacturers stick with their recommended oils. which vehicle in the market requires ck? wala naman siguro

Those that has all those diesel emission reducing mechanisms like DPFs, SCR NOx and etc.. Alam ko meron nang DPFs yung recent diesels but I'm not sure about the others. Maybe the European diesels but I'm sure they've adapted it to our diesel quality here. I'm not even sure if all gas stations use Euro IV diesel fuel at all, with < 50ppm of sulfur.

[StockEngine]

DENR requirement is euro4. API CK is for US market which is for more stringent emission requirements.

[leoblack9]

DENR requirement is euro4. API CK is for US market which is for more stringent emission requirements.

Is it actually being enforced on all gas stations (even lesser known ones)? I get my fix from a Caltex station here in Cainta that's way cheaper than those in highways. They told me they use Euro IV. But I'm just usually skeptical about everything.

And I'm about to say that JP makers go the 'tried and tested' route while the US auto makers go 'bleeding edge' route by having stricter tests and standards that come out every other year or so.

So they must be better, right?

I wouldn't put newer than CI4+ on my diesel since I don't have a dpf but still I keep thinking about having that 'better protection and fuel consumption' with these newer oils (well.. they require Euro V and VI fuels too but that's another matter).

[kisshmet]

^latest oil are always better than old oil..thats what the rating is for ..o better is the way to go

3rd world country is always behind in implementing stricter emission standards and embracing the benefits of what the latest oil can bring to the engine

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[leoblack9]

^latest oil are always better than old oil..thats what the rating is for ..o better is the way to go

3rd world country is always behind in implementing stricter emission standards and embracing the benefits of what the latest oil can bring to the engine

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Yeah but good thing we have these importers who bring in that updated goodies... although in quarts, its annoying to buy an extra quart just to fill in that few extra hundred milliliters on the dipstick.

Have you actually used a CK-4 oil sir? How was it on your engine?