Overrated engines... Eto nanaman po tayo.

**Type 100** · January 31st, 2008 10:06 PM

Easy on the hasty generalizations. Not all Honda B-series engines are "overrated." The B20B lumps from the first CR-Vs (1996-98) actually drew a lot of complaints for being sorely underpowered, given the 2.0L displacement. That led to Honda quietly replacing it with the mildly revised B20Z two years later.

Nowadays in tuning circles, you usually see B20 engine blocks being bolted on with the aggressive B16A/B heads you anti-Honda fanbois seem to hate so much...this is the so-called "Frankenstein" or B20VTEC setup.

SR20DETs are also up there with the 4A-G lineage, they're relatively quite old (first ones came out 1988 if memory serves) yet pretty reliable and very tunable. Shorn of their turbos, the SR20DEs still power some Nissans such as the Serena MPVs.

**KBR** · February 1st, 2008 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by dhel

When I was still is Cali, some... errr most pala of my tuner friends agree that toyota's 2JZs are the most overrated.

Just ask the former APEXi Engineering Head and Cosworth RnD.. and now w/ U.S big time engine tuner Xs Engineering, Mr. Eric Hsu on how he blasted away Supra boy's so called Jap muscle engine. He shut them all up with he's statement. Coz we all know he really knows what's he's talking about.

Here naman with a year of stay, it's the b16 I think..

Dude, I think the SR20 and RBs are not over or underrated, lalo na the legendary RBs it proved itself more than enough.. ;)

so what did Eric Hsu said?? is he talkin smack about the 2JZ?? or is he praising it?? coz the last time I knew he is working on a IS300 w/ a fully built 2JZGTE at XS Engineering.

anywayz, about the 2JZGTE. it might be the most "over-rated" or "hyped-up" engine in its class (6cyl 3.0L class) but then again, it performed and backed up those statement.

here in the US, almost all of the leading Tuning shops / companies out here lean towards the 2JZ powerplant to be successful in Drag Racing. the 2JZ engine is capable of handling 800-1000 whp (wheel horsepower) on stock internals, and capable of handling waaayy over 1,200 to 1,500 whp on a fully built long block. and still be reliable. (note that theres a lot of 1000 RWHP Supra's out here in the US. and most of them are fully tuned Street Cars)

also, nowadays, the 2JZGTE engine is can be seen on a whole bunch of modified RWD cars. from Nissan 240SX's, Honda S2000's, Nissan 240Z's, Nissan 350Z's, AE86 Corolla's, FD3S RX7's, and even on old school Chevy Nova's.

so its clear that the 2JZGTE is undeniably the KING or what we can say the "Japanese Muscle Car Engine" of all time.

aite, peace.

**blue1108** · February 1st, 2008 04:19 AM

grabe, humahaba na thread na to a. i've enjoyed reading each and everyone's input. lagi ko binabasa what you guys have to say kse i don't have any formal training. mostly backyard engineering ska trial and error lng kmi ng tropa

overrated engine? the 13b and other mazda rotary engines cguro. they were hyped up to be very powerful 1.3 engines with very good fuel economy as well. very good concept pro hind ngmaterialize. rotary engines are notorious for being unreliable and gas guzzlers. and unless they have turbo's, they also barely make any "real" power at all

**Ben Musong** · February 1st, 2008 06:16 AM

walang sinabi japanese muscle cars from toyoto, ninsan and hunda. talo sila sa ford cortina namin na fully loaded ng kalawang iba talaga ang ford

**SaberRider** · February 1st, 2008 07:54 AM

just wikipedia.org nyo nalang.

Toyota engines
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**KBR** · February 1st, 2008 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Ben Musong

walang sinabi japanese muscle cars from toyoto, ninsan and hunda. talo sila sa ford cortina namin na fully loaded ng kalawang iba talaga ang ford

bwakekekeke lolz!! pero astig din ang old skool na Escort ha! yung Brenda ata yun??

aite, peace.

**alwayz_yummy** · February 1st, 2008 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by dhel

Dude, I think the SR20 and RBs are not over or underrated, lalo na the legendary RBs it proved itself more than enough.. ;)

yup proven na talaga ang SR and RB series ng nissan...yun ang gusto ko sa nissan,e...lalo na yung rb26dett at sr20det/vet

pero dito sa pinas, wala ka masyadong tuner support sa nissan..hay hay... ang NISMO dito, cosmetics lang....

me want to bolt-in a sr20vet on my 89 maxima, pero mahal gas![size=1]at baka di kayanin ng chassis yun power[/size]

yup nadinig ko na yung hybrid-b20vtec na yun..nasa honda tuning manual ko yun--yung issued ng sport compact car magazine...

pero still, i'm reasearching kung may naglagay na ng d15b 3-stage vtec head sa d16 block (for registration issues kasi,e)