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    ano ang viscosity ng mineral oil? I need a change oil for my innova-gas and out of warranty na sya so i want to do the maintenance outside sa casa para maka tipid...since I have been doing maintenance in casa with mineral oil lang, what is its equivalent oil sa labas? need ko rin bang mag change ng filter almost 40,000km na ang na regsiter nya, what about oil flashing need ko rin ba to?

    Since 5.5 liters ang need ng oil ko. what I intend to do is buy 5 liters of mineral oil and 500ml oil additive- ok ba to? just read STP oil additive, pwede ba 500ml nito will be added sa 5 liters or mineral oil? by the way gasoline yung innova ko...tia

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras
    ano ang viscosity ng mineral oil? I need a change oil for my innova-gas and out of warranty na sya so i want to do the maintenance outside sa casa para maka tipid...since I have been doing maintenance in casa with mineral oil lang, what is its equivalent oil sa labas? need ko rin bang mag change ng filter almost 40,000km na ang na regsiter nya, what about oil flashing need ko rin ba to?

    Since 5.5 liters ang need ng oil ko. what I intend to do is buy 5 liters of mineral oil and 500ml oil additive- ok ba to? just read STP oil additive, pwede ba 500ml nito will be added sa 5 liters or mineral oil? by the way gasoline yung innova ko...tia
    Lahatng viscosity Meron, depende Kung Ano gusto mo gamitin and hinde na kailangan ng additives Sayang Lang pera

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    kung ano klaseng motor oil sabi sa owner's manual yan ang sundin

    di na kailangan ng additive

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    kung mineral oil ang gagamitin, buy quality oils na lang, no need for additives.

    mineral oils should last 5,000km. pero better kung mag change oil after 4,000 or 4,500km.

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    Oil viscosity varies bye weight of the oil and what group base stock it's made of, If you want to know the in's and out of oil and filters just check out this thread. Tons and tons of info.

    http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...9/index93.html

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    kung mineral hanap mo madame yan viscosity.. starting from 10w40/1540/20w40/20w50 at kung anu anu pa...
    just find a good mineral oil with ample additives inside and good base stocks...

    viscosity wise walang epekto yan... but according sa bobistheoilguy forums, its better to use the lower starting number like 5w or 10w... all oils when at operating temp has the same viscosity.. ibig sabihin kahit 10w30,5w30,10w40,15w50 lahat yan same viscosity pag operating temp na( pag mainit na makina)... what sets them apart is yung cold start rating(early morning starts)... mas mababang grade like 0w/5w/10w mas maganda para sa cold start flow where 80% of wear occurs... since gasoline engine ka naman 5w or 10w would suffice..

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    yun castrol magnatec ok sa gas innova namin

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    We left off discussing that a 0W-30 grade oil is not thinner than a 10W-30 oil. They both have the same thickness at operating temperature. The 0W-30 simply does not get as thick on cooling as the 10W-30. Both are still way to thick to lubricate an engine at startup.

    I have heard several people say that Porsche specifically prohibits a 0W-XX engine oil, that it is too thin. Now here is the partial truth I spoke of earlier. We will discuss multi-grade oils. Earlier we said that a straight 30 grade oil has a thickness of 10 at the normal operating temperature of your engine. The multi-grade oils 0W-30 and 10W-30 also have a thickness of 10 at 212°F.

    The difference is at 75°F, your startup temperature in the morning.

    Oil Type Thickness at 75° F Thickness at 212° F
    Straight 30 250 10
    10W-30 100 10
    0W-30 40 10
    Straight 10 30 6

    Remember, the only difference between a 0W-40 and a 10W-40 is that the 0W-40 thickens less after you turn off your engine. It is still too thick in the morning at startup but not as thick as the 10W-40. Yet, they are still too thick to use until they both warm up to operating temperature at which point they have the save viscosity, around 13 to 14. Remember that the 0W-30, 10W-30 and straight 30 grade oils all have a viscosity of around 10 at normal engine operating temperatures. They all thicken when you turn off your engine. The 10W-30 will thicken the most.

    source: bob is the oil guy forums...

    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Oil viscosity varies bye weight of the oil and what group base stock it's made of, If you want to know the in's and out of oil and filters just check out this thread. Tons and tons of info.

    http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...9/index93.html

    what do you mean by group base?

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    ^

    maybe grouping by type of oil mineral, semi, full synthetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    ano ang viscosity ng mineral oil? I need a change oil for my innova-gas and out of warranty na sya so i want to do the maintenance outside sa casa para maka tipid...since I have been doing maintenance in casa with mineral oil lang, what is its equivalent oil sa labas? need ko rin bang mag change ng filter almost 40,000km na ang na regsiter nya, what about oil flashing need ko rin ba to?

    Since 5.5 liters ang need ng oil ko. what I intend to do is buy 5 liters of mineral oil and 500ml oil additive- ok ba to? just read STP oil additive, pwede ba 500ml nito will be added sa 5 liters or mineral oil? by the way gasoline yung innova ko...tia
    i just follow the oil grade as indicated in the car's manual. and i just get what's on the shelf of the gas station where i have my off-casa oil and oil filter change. i change my filter everytime i change oil (every 5000 km).
    no, i do not use oil engine flush or even pressurized air. just old-fashioned gravity. and i do not use oil additives. methinks if oil additives are of practical benefit, the oil manufacturers would already have incorporated them in their products.

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    in plain and simple english...since i change my engine oil every 5000km, will the 20w50 oil be fine? btw, my tsikot has never had a better oil even before it was always mineral oil sa casa (toyota and its 20w50)...now na magpa change oil ako sa labas it was tinkering of having a 20w50 mineral oil of 5liters and a 480ml na stp oil treatment so that it may somehow improve the viscosity ng oil ko....here in cebu, merong Total na auto shop and mura lang ang oil nila compared sa gasoline station shops...ok ba yung Total? anong suggestion nyo... STP Oil Treatment costs only P189.95pesos sa Ace Hardware so para akong nakatipid nito, or would adding the STP Oil Treatment put my engine in danger? may nagpost kasi dito na STP Oil Treatment is safe provided I follow the instruction....what are your thoughts on this? TIA
    Last edited by attyallanlatras; February 5th, 2012 at 01:10 PM. Reason: additional query

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    Probably best to merge this post with the other thread since it deals with oil.

    There is no need to add STP oil treatment to 20w50 oil especially if it's API rating is a diesel oil. STP will only only thicken it up by a factor of 5/10 so 10w30 become 15w40 20w50 is already thick enough, you will loose fuel economy running even thicker oil. There is not much reason to run 20w50 unless your engine is really worn out.

    The only reason to add STP oil treatment would be on a 30 weight oil, 40 weight and up simply does not need it. 5000kms oil changes are really a waste of money.

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    pwede 5W-30, 10W-30, 15W-40 or 20W-50.

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    If you live in a tropical climate, which you do. You want to run a 40 weight oil on basically everything, 30 weight oils will loose their viscosity much quicker do to the warmer climate and therefore will need to be changed more often and sooner.

    0w-40, 5w40, 10w40, 15w40 is what you want. I prefer 15w40 since it will normally have the highest viscosity index. 20w50 is not needed in most cars unless it's really old and burns oil. 20w50 will actually hurt fuel economy on many vehicles especially in 4cly gas engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i just follow the oil grade as indicated in the car's manual. and i just get what's on the shelf of the gas station where i have my off-casa oil and oil filter change. i change my filter everytime i change oil (every 5000 km).
    no, i do not use oil engine flush or even pressurized air. just old-fashioned gravity. and i do not use oil additives. methinks if oil additives are of practical benefit, the oil manufacturers would already have incorporated them in their products.
    Tama if you are using 20W 50 no need to add STP oil treatment, the best to add STP is if you are using thin Oil like 5W 30 or 10W 30 mineral oil meron kasi mineral base oil na 10w 30 sa ace hardware meron ako nakita akala ko nga basta 10W 30 or 5W 30 synthetic na pero meran pa pla na mineral base din. Well anyway my experience in STP is outstanding for me, may Tsikot is Isuzu Trooper with an Engine of problematic 4JX1, nakaranas ako ng Engine stop due to over heat 2X last summer nag-leak kasi ung Turbo coolant hose ko, no engine damage no cylynderhead crack or something. My Oil is Idemitsu extreme Eco 5W 30 with one Bottle of STP oil Treatment. Gamit ko din ito sa CRV namin Kseries Engine every oil change 10W 30. one of my radiator fan died going up to Tagaytay never overheat until manila.

What's the viscosity of mineral oil?