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    Kaya bang tumagal ng 10kms ung zic rv? Palit oil filter ng 5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by igiwtf View Post
    Kaya bang tumagal ng 10kms ung zic rv? Palit oil filter ng 5k
    using a high filter efficient oil filter such as baldwin or fleetguard you can easily extend oil change interval to 10,000 to 12,000km, however if you use a regular oil filter such as vic or oem, its safer to change every 5,000KM. My suggestion is, initially just use a baldwin right away so that you wouldnt have to change it until 10,000km mark.

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    upto 5 microns kaya i-filter ng baldwin right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
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    upto 5 microns kaya i-filter ng baldwin right?

    There are certain models that can filter down to 5 microns like the LF3564.
    Generally Baldwins and Fleerguards are rated at 98% * 30 microns which is above and beyond OEM standard of 87% * 40 microns.

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    May napost na ba about Petron RevX All Terrain 5W40 kung pwede and maganda ang specs for gas engines?


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    Mukhang ok ang specs for both gas and diesel ah How much bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Mukhang ok ang specs for both gas and diesel ah How much bro?
    price at P480/ liter sa mga petron station

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    May napost na ba about Petron RevX All Terrain 5W40 kung pwede and maganda ang specs for gas engines?

    chics, naghahanap din ako ng ganito. ganda ng PDS nyan. hataw sa TBN. 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Mukhang ok ang specs for both gas and diesel ah How much bro?
    Around 450/L? Or 480 basta less than 500 hehe. Hope dvldoc could chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayen View Post
    chics, naghahanap din ako ng ganito. ganda ng PDS nyan. hataw sa TBN. 16
    What's the purpose of TBN ba? Hehe sorry noob question. Pero yes nabasa ko nga sobrang taas ng TBN nya compared to other oils.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    What's the purpose of TBN ba? Hehe sorry noob question. Pero yes nabasa ko nga sobrang taas ng TBN nya compared to other oils.


    Co Wikipedia:

    Total base number (TBN) is a measure of a lubricant's reserve alkalinity. It is measured in milligrams of potassium hydroxide per gram (mg KOH/g).[citation needed]

    TBN determines how effective the control of acids formed will be during the combustion process. The higher the TBN, the more effective it is in suspending wear-causing contaminants and reducing the corrosive effects of acids over an extended period of time. The associated measurement ASTM D2896 and ASTM D4739-06 generally range from 6-80mg KOH/g in modern lubricants, 7-10mg for general automotive use and 10-15 for Diesel operations.

    So basically the higher the TBN the longer you can run it in your vehicle. So if you start with a whopping 16, you can run it for a long long time. I saw a used oil analysis, he used this oil on his trooper. ran it for 5,000 then had the oil tested, it registered TBN 14, that was after 5,000 KM, VIC pa gamit nyan oil filter, just imagine kung baldwin pa ginamit nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayen View Post
    Co Wikipedia:

    Total base number (TBN) is a measure of a lubricant's reserve alkalinity. It is measured in milligrams of potassium hydroxide per gram (mg KOH/g).[citation needed]

    TBN determines how effective the control of acids formed will be during the combustion process. The higher the TBN, the more effective it is in suspending wear-causing contaminants and reducing the corrosive effects of acids over an extended period of time. The associated measurement ASTM D2896 and ASTM D4739-06 generally range from 6-80mg KOH/g in modern lubricants, 7-10mg for general automotive use and 10-15 for Diesel operations.

    So basically the higher the TBN the longer you can run it in your vehicle. So if you start with a whopping 16, you can run it for a long long time. I saw a used oil analysis, he used this oil on his trooper. ran it for 5,000 then had the oil tested, it registered TBN 14, that was after 5,000 KM, VIC pa gamit nyan oil filter, just imagine kung baldwin pa ginamit nya.

    nabasa ko din yang thread na yan sa isuzu trooper discussion about sa tbn ng petron all terrain, highly recommended din itong oil na ito sa isuzu trooper thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayen View Post
    Co Wikipedia:

    Total base number (TBN) is a measure of a lubricant's reserve alkalinity. It is measured in milligrams of potassium hydroxide per gram (mg KOH/g).[citation needed]

    TBN determines how effective the control of acids formed will be during the combustion process. The higher the TBN, the more effective it is in suspending wear-causing contaminants and reducing the corrosive effects of acids over an extended period of time. The associated measurement ASTM D2896 and ASTM D4739-06 generally range from 6-80mg KOH/g in modern lubricants, 7-10mg for general automotive use and 10-15 for Diesel operations.

    So basically the higher the TBN the longer you can run it in your vehicle. So if you start with a whopping 16, you can run it for a long long time. I saw a used oil analysis, he used this oil on his trooper. ran it for 5,000 then had the oil tested, it registered TBN 14, that was after 5,000 KM, VIC pa gamit nyan oil filter, just imagine kung baldwin pa ginamit nya.
    sir when you say it registered 14TBN using vic after 5k meaning malinis pa yung oil? sa tingin mo ba sir kung ganun it can last 10k OCI using bosch oil filter, meaning after 10k na rin palit ng filter? hehehe sorry kung pang dummy yung tanong trying to learn about this things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty View Post

    sir when you say it registered 14TBN using vic after 5k meaning malinis pa yung oil? sa tingin mo ba sir kung ganun it can last 10k OCI using bosch oil filter, meaning after 10k na rin palit ng filter? hehehe sorry kung pang dummy yung tanong trying to learn about this things...
    Mura lang naman bosch filter pwede palitan every 5k pero yung oil mininum 10k, safe pa rin hangang 15k ,i dare to say kaya nyan hangang 20k especially baldwin o fleetguard. 14 tbn is even better than brand new delo gold ultra with tbn of 11.2.

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    Sirs, tama ba itong logic?

    E.G. If I use a very good oil and a poor filter. Oil could last 10K but filter only 3K, pwede ba ung filter lang palitan every 3k? To my understanding, kailangan palitan both oil and filter kasi every OCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Sirs, tama ba itong logic?

    E.G. If I use a very good oil and a poor filter. Oil could last 10K but filter only 3K, pwede ba ung filter lang palitan every 3k? To my understanding, kailangan palitan both oil and filter kasi every OCI.

    Sir pag tinangal mo ung oil filter tatapon na ung oil diba, kaya po sa PMS ang inuuna tangalin ay ung drain plug para hindi messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Sirs, tama ba itong logic?

    E.G. If I use a very good oil and a poor filter. Oil could last 10K but filter only 3K, pwede ba ung filter lang palitan every 3k? To my understanding, kailangan palitan both oil and filter kasi every OCI.
    using poor filter with good oil defeats the purpose of using good oil. If you use bad filter, particles smaller than 30 microns gets recirculated back to the engine causing greater damage in the long run. Tbn will be still be high for good oil when you do oil analysis, but particle count for wear metals in the oil would probably also increase. Bosch filters are good over the counter filters as good if not better than oem but not up to baldwin or fleetguard stardards. Mura lang naman sya so changing it every 5k is extra safeguard. Kung walang makuhang baldwin yan gamit ko

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    using poor filter with good oil defeats the purpose of using good oil. If you use bad filter, particles smaller than 30 microns gets recirculated back to the engine causing greater damage in the long run. Tbn will be still be high for good oil when you do oil analysis, but particle count for wear metals in the oil would probably also increase. Bosch filters are good over the counter filters as good if not better than oem but not up to baldwin or fleetguard stardards. Mura lang naman sya so changing it every 5k is extra safeguard. Kung walang makuhang baldwin yan gamit ko

    Okay, noted. thanks for your inputs sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post

    Sir pag tinangal mo ung oil filter tatapon na ung oil diba, kaya po sa PMS ang inuuna tangalin ay ung drain plug para hindi messy.
    Wala dapat tatapon na langis pag tinangal mo filter (konti cguro galing sa cavity between filter and filter housing base). Kasi nasa crankcase ang oil mo. Kung wala o non functioning ang anti drain back valve ng filter mo tatapon yung langis na nasa loob ng filter habang tinatangal mo sya gaya ng sa VIC filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    using poor filter with good oil defeats the purpose of using good oil. If you use bad filter, particles smaller than 30 microns gets recirculated back to the engine causing greater damage in the long run. Tbn will be still be high for good oil when you do oil analysis, but particle count for wear metals in the oil would probably also increase. Bosch filters are good over the counter filters as good if not better than oem but not up to baldwin or fleetguard stardards. Mura lang naman sya so changing it every 5k is extra safeguard. Kung walang makuhang baldwin yan gamit ko
    *dvldoc ,am I right on this?

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?