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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?
    There's a huge difference between synthetic oil and mineral oil. In terms of the performance of the car, its highly recommendable to use synthetic oil as it has high resistance power, can withstand high temperature and most importantly it provides high performance. Despite its cost, synthetic oil lasts longer which avoids constant oil change. However, you can visit your trusted car shop to ask for better recommendation and know its risk that might ruin the car over the years. Hope this helps!

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    One of the claims of manufacturers is that using Fully Synthetic Oil improves fuel economy.... But after some readings in the net it appears that it is a myth. So the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 km. My concern now is the viscosity of the oil. The manual recommends a 5W 30 viscosity, but that if for fully synthetic oils which costs around 3 times (around 5k pesos) than a mineral oil which cost 1.5k. The mineral oil is at 15W 40 (pasok naman sa manual as minimum).... Some say that since we do not have winter in the Philippines so the first number does not really matter. It is the second number which is crucial. I have read that 40 is too thick as an oil and might have some issues in the long run.... Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?
    hi atty, kung 5w30 ang recommended meron nyan ang zic. baka meron dyan or marami sellers who can ship. very smooth sya on may 3.2 monty mura mura pa.

    https://www.*******/all-results?q=zic+oil+5w30

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    on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

    Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

    Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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    bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

    this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

    this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil
    Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokong22 View Post
    Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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    its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.
    Overkill yang 40liters Wala pa akong. Nakitang bus na 40liters ang engine oil capacity lolz... Kung meron man baka mga super size bus as ibang bansa

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

    Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    Not safe, iba situations here in ph, example the stop and go traffic here...if highway cruiser lang that seldom idles..by all means


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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    yes, you can but it is recommended to change your oil filter at 5k and just top it up with same engine oil. me, however, stick with 5k OCI with oem filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    Ok lang yan. But if you’re going to replaced every 5k then just stick to the regular oil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    Volkswagen follows a 15k KM or 12-month cycle for their cars, even the diesel models. Yun sinusunod namin for our 2016 Jetta 1.6L TDI.

    VW casa uses Castrol 5w30 oil.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    Just a question, fully synthetic oil for diesel engines (diesel accent, sorento) safe to use up to 10k kms before oil change on stock oil filters?

    Really want to stretch the OCI to 10k kms or yearly.

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    Use Baldwin oil filters, instead of OEM.

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    How do i know what kind of baldwin filter do i buy? Kinda not sure how to look.

    My talyer uses Vic tho. Oil is Amsoil European Car Formula 5w-40

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    Last edited by istan; February 7th, 2019 at 09:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istan View Post
    How do i know what kind of baldwin filter do i buy? Kinda not sure how to look.

    My talyer uses Vic tho. Oil is Amsoil European Car Formula 5w-40

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    you can check the baldwin website for reference bro. the info there is pretty comprehensive

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    I wonder why cruising at 2000rpm is less stressful to the car engine than idling at 800rpm..i simply check the color of the oil against the light

    Before i reach 5000km i check the oil dip stick..if its pitch black then i replace the oil without waiting to reach 5000km

    If its not pitch black when i reach 5000km then i extend it further

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    I wonder why cruising at 2000rpm is less stressful to the car engine than idling at 800rpm..i simply check the color of the oil against the light

    Before i reach 5000km i check the oil dip stick..if its pitch black then i replace the oil without waiting to reach 5000km

    If its not pitch black when i reach 5000km then i extend it further

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    I agree, you're correct that 800rpm is less stressful than 2000rpm.
    But I think that 2 cars, both with 5000kms on it, one is highway-driven and the other is city-driven,
    it is easier to assume that the highway-driven car is subjected to less stress.
    IMO, engine operating time is still the best indicator for OCIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makelovenotwar View Post
    I agree, you're correct that 800rpm is less stressful than 2000rpm.
    But I think that 2 cars, both with 5000kms on it, one is highway-driven and the other is city-driven,
    it is easier to assume that the highway-driven car is subjected to less stress.
    IMO, engine operating time is still the best indicator for OCIs.
    Agree. A city-only driven car will have run a lot longer in terms of running time vs one that spends most of its time on the expressways with the same km interval.

    For frequent short trips fuel dilution from all those cold starts will be a concern as well. Specially with an older engine.

    For gasoline engines, fuel consumed might also be used to establish OCI's since they run at the same air fuel ratio all the time.

    Harder to do that with diesels since they run pretty lean at cruising speed.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; February 7th, 2019 at 12:06 PM.

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    Daily, i just travel 25 kms. I don't idle that much.
    Airport to makati route.
    Thanks for the baldwin info and the check against the light.

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Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?