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    Quote Originally Posted by makelovenotwar View Post
    So is it better to stay with OEM oil filters than choose Vic oil filters?
    (I did not watch the video)
    There are better oil filters than Vic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Rider Blac View Post
    [emoji106] +1
    Mas mahalaga pala talaga ang kalidad ng oil filter kaysa brand ng motor oil...

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    Well not entirely true...kelangan both good oil and Filter....Good quality fltration addresses only particle contaminants....Lubrication constitutes a couple of importants parameters to maintain and Particle contaminants is only one of it...Though eto talaga most important...abrasiveness to keep at bay.

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    To site an example in one of my previous work a very expensive synthetic oil used for Gas Turbines were left with a very high TAN value for quite sometine and it actually damages some seals in the machine that cost the company a couple of hundred thousand $ losses...The oil in terms of padticle contaminannts are well witin specs. So oil filtration is not all the root cause of all machine lubrication related failures...sya lang ang most common.

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    The video doesn’t actually recommend OEM filters. He’s using aftermarket filters and recommends that you change your filter at the midpoint of your oil change schedule. Feasible if your engine has a top mounted filter.


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    oil and filter does go hand in hand. simple owners just need to know what experts share.

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    i was surprised to see prestone now has a motor oil engine line. it's apparently made in singapore. i suppose it's going to be priced competitively since its brand and network is pretty established here

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    Just stumbled upon this article

    https://www.topgear.com.ph/features/...e-a20-20171112

    "Quite frankly, there isn't a clear answer to your question without taking your used oil to a laboratory for chemical analysis. Doing so will tell you how long you can go before you need to change the oil. Short of that, any answer will just be quoting the lubricant's sales brochure."

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    if i have to guess the cost of that oil analysis,
    it'd probably be cheaper to have my oil change.

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    Depends on what sector or industry you are coming from, oil analysis can be worth the price.


    Oil analysis in USA is $28.00 so say around Php 1,500.


    Blackstone Labs

    Oil analysis is a quick, nondestructive way to gauge the health of an engine by looking at what's in the oil. People use oil analysis for different reasons: to see if there are any problems developing, to see if their oil is working well in the engine, and to see if they can run longer oil changes.


    Applications: Gas engines, Diesel engines, Motorcycle, Industrial, Aviation, Marine, Transmission.


    But if you are an ordinary consumer with a single car to maintain, then you can just stick to your regular oil change schedule.

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    IMHO stick to car recommendations, newer cars have actualy specified specific type of oil rating..not only viscosity range..You can select from diff.brand as long its meeting the recommended specs.. Example yun sa Ford...new diesel engines..recommended nila tlaga is Synthetic A5 rating.. which is recommended by Ford to last from as kow as 7500km-15000Km depending on use and country in operation. Also time base is 9months ang recommended..whichever comes first..Only here na 6months...rest is 9-12months.

    My formula naman...ginagaya ko yun 12months or 10K km whichever comes first. I also factor in engine running hours.200hrs is also recommended to change oil irregardless of mileage reading. The general rule of Ford and GMC diesel are 1hr IDLE = 25-30miles equivalent. So say from your residence going from and to work takes you 2hours and its just 12km away..so dapat the estimated km nun sa engine is 82-96km. Not saying its true pero yun ang sa opinion ko is the realistic one..those companies naman have data kaya sila naka came up ng ganun estimates.

    My old skul line of thinking are not that applicable na to todays new engine tech and fuel quality and driving conditions. We may have less sulfur sa fuel now compared years ago but meron naman ngayon bio diesel.so it all constitutes sa oil contaminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    IMHO stick to car recommendations, newer cars have actualy specified specific type of oil rating..not only viscosity range..You can select from diff.brand as long its meeting the recommended specs.. Example yun sa Ford...new diesel engines..recommended nila tlaga is Synthetic A5 rating.. which is recommended by Ford to last from as kow as 7500km-15000Km depending on use and country in operation. Also time base is 9months ang recommended..whichever comes first..Only here na 6months...rest is 9-12months.

    My formula naman...ginagaya ko yun 12months or 10K km whichever comes first. I also factor in engine running hours.200hrs is also recommended to change oil irregardless of mileage reading. The general rule of Ford and GMC diesel are 1hr IDLE = 25-30miles equivalent. So say from your residence going from and to work takes you 2hours and its just 12km away..so dapat the estimated km nun sa engine is 82-96km. Not saying its true pero yun ang sa opinion ko is the realistic one..those companies naman have data kaya sila naka came up ng ganun estimates.

    My old skul line of thinking are not that applicable na to todays new engine tech and fuel quality and driving conditions. We may have less sulfur sa fuel now compared years ago but meron naman ngayon bio diesel.so it all constitutes sa oil contaminations.
    its ACEA A5/B5 bro [emoji6]

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    Double post
    Last edited by Jiggs; March 11th, 2018 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    its ACEA A5/B5 bro [emoji6]

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    Yep....it is the equivalent for Ford WSS-M2C913-C

    In Australia..i think they either use Mobil & Nulon sa Thailand its Castrol and for Phil they use Shell. Others use Motorcraft...all of them have a specific blend that meets the ACEA A5/B5 rating.. Same with chevrolet they need to meet the DEXOS specs So it turns out that new engine now have certain needs that if not met will suffer engine early wear n tear and not meting designed efficiency.

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    https://youtu.be/4wPlxcB7jHw

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    Berrima diesel is saying that oil viscosity of 0W30, 5W30, 10W30 are wrong. they suggest 15w40 and 20w50.
    Video link below.

    What do you guys think?

    Multi grade oils.... W3, 5W3, 1W3... - Berrima Diesel Services - The Diesel Experts - Philippines

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    They are correct. If one reads owners manuals of our rigs, it quite clear that temperature dictates what viscosity to use. If we were in a cold country then 20-30 oils would be good. But in the Philippines it would be wise to use 40 or 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paj4x4 View Post
    They are correct. If one reads owners manuals of our rigs, it quite clear that temperature dictates what viscosity to use. If we were in a cold country then 20-30 oils would be good. But in the Philippines it would be wise to use 40 or 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post


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    Parang hindi pinagisipan ng Toyota ang chart or they're marketing their "Toyota genuine motor oil" as meeting all temperatures kahit 0w20 pa sya.
    Some Japanese are getting dishonest- takata airbag & kobe steel fiascos

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    I'm learning a lot from this. Thanks for all the input.

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?