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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    not that significant in theory. even my 2014 car only requires api-sl.

    tbh i havent seen any api-sm oils..

    whats the vehicle in question?

    api-sm 2010 and older
    api-sn this is somewhat current
    api-snrc this is current.




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    vios po na 3rd gen

    since my odo is expected to hit 15,000km this saturday, i had to look for replacement baldwin bt223

    the other guy whom i bought it from last year suddenly does not respond anymore so looked for another

    too bad the only seller i found requires me to buy oil along with the filter (understandable since COD for a single filter is just not worth it)

    unfortunately the best oil he offers is a fully synthetic API SM one (ZIC XQ 5w40)

    my engine is currently loaded with Helix 7 (which is API SN)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylphunter View Post
    vios po na 3rd gen

    since my odo is expected to hit 15,000km this saturday, i had to look for replacement baldwin bt223

    the other guy whom i bought it from last year suddenly does not respond anymore so looked for another

    too bad the only seller i found requires me to buy oil along with the filter (understandable since COD for a single filter is just not worth it)

    unfortunately the best oil he offers is a fully synthetic API SM one (ZIC XQ 5w40)

    my engine is currently loaded with Helix 7 (which is API SN)
    May nakita ako sa shopee na nagbibenta ng baldwin filters. Free shipping pag P500 and up.

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    what does your owners manual say? does it require api-sn or older?



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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    what does your owners manual say? does it require api-sn or older?



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    SL, SM and SN are allowed on the manual

    just wanted to know if there are any easily felt (non placebo) effects between SM and SN

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    nada...

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    thank you po sa info

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    Is it better to get Toyota's synthetic oil an 654/L but every 10,000kms and change interval, rather than the regular one na every 5k kms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willownavarro View Post
    Is it better to get Toyota's synthetic oil an 654/L but every 10,000kms and change interval, rather than the regular one na every 5k kms?

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    may nabasa ako dito na mas maganda parin mineral with shorter interval vs. synthetic with longer interval. pero case to case din like red_one, iirc once a year sya magpalit (fully synthetic) kasi low mileage per year use nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willownavarro View Post
    Is it better to get Toyota's synthetic oil an 654/L but every 10,000kms and change interval, rather than the regular one na every 5k kms?

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    Ask your dentist..its better to brush your teeth twice than once a day

    Synthetic is good for the environment though

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    Quote Originally Posted by willownavarro View Post
    Is it better to get Toyota's synthetic oil an 654/L but every 10,000kms and change interval, rather than the regular one na every 5k kms?

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    Much better to use conventional oil and replace it every 5k kms or 6 months. Sa fully synth, you still have to replace the oil filter.

    We change the oil not to really change it just bcoz it loses viscosity and effectiveness, we remove dirt.

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    I agree with you kris_13, I prefer frequent oil change.

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    The only way to figure out if you can do extended OCI is to do a UOA. Otherwise, 6-month oil changes would be considered safe.

    I have my EGR blocked off so I have decided to stick to an OCI of 12 months or 10k, whichever comes first. Oil filter is still changed plus oil top-up every 6 months.

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    Thanks, guys. Will go for the regular one, then

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    I go with FS 10k or 1yr with top-up & filter change every 6 months.

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    Re: replace filter only
    Di ba madami tumapon na oil? Or yun nakalagay lang sa filter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Re: replace filter only
    Di ba madami tumapon na oil? Or yun nakalagay lang sa filter?

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    I think it depends sa sasakyan.

    Sa Swift natin, it's .5-1 liter.

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    ^yun zic na 5w30 for gas fully synth (blue bottle) bro, maganda takbo sa swift ko noon

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    Need your input lang mga sir. Torn between hell hx7 (blue bottle), mitasu and Royal Purple for my Mirage G4 * 10,000 kms PMS. Any advice? Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamotekid1968 View Post
    Need your input lang mga sir. Torn between hell hx7 (blue bottle), mitasu and Royal Purple for my Mirage G4 * 10,000 kms PMS. Any advice? Thanks!!!

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    Royal Purple simple choice.

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Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?