Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

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[Chikselog]

Top1 sdo is like zic a+ , both semi synth, oci should be 4months for daily driven vehicles.

How many months before you hit 5k?

Probably 5 months for 5k. Not sure. My goal on the Rio is to clean the internals though. Is Top1 SDO + Baldwin filter the best choice? I don't mind using diesel engine oil as long as it has 'detergents' enough to clean the internals in the long run and of course safe to use in gas engines.

[@redlantern]

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

I read that, The dealership wants you to change oil often. Scare tactic. The way you post seems you are a part of some brand/dealership

dvldoc 06-03-2011, 07:30 PM

Full synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.p

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[StockEngine]

That is wasting money, We are not in the 1990s that thinks mineral, semi and fully. Its year 2015, you check the API and viscoity. You check last if its group 2, 3 or 4

I hope you are not part of the marketing department of some car dealership and engine oil companies that roams the web and tells car consumer to change oil really fast.

You dont check if its grp4 or even grp3. You check if the oil meets your engine oil requirements. Oil change interval in the philippines is considered severe usage. Welcome to manila traffic.

[@redlantern]

You keep on insisting to use semi for 4months and fully for 6months.

Metro manila traffic is bad but you dont change oil that really fast.

Its like honda dealership selling honda lev 10w30 dino oil and telling car consumer to change oil at 3months.

[@redlantern]

Full synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years. Even with a dino oil.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[@redlantern]

Full synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years. Even with a dino oil.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[StockEngine]

You keep on insisting to use semi for 4months and fully for 6months.

Metro manila traffic is bad but you dont change oil that really fast.

Its like honda dealership selling honda lev 10w30 dino oil and telling car consumer to change oil at 3months.

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

[@redlantern]

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

Yes i read that. To make car consumer go to the dealership often. The way you post here i think you are part of some brand.

Full synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[@redlantern]

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

Yes i read that. To make car consumer go to the dealership often. The way you post here i think you are part of some brand.

Full synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[@redlantern]

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

I read that, The dealership wants you to change oil often. Scare tactic. The way you post seems you are a part of some brand/dealership

dvldocFull synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php[/url]

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[@redlantern]

I guess youve never heard of severe usage and preventive maintenance. Read your owners manual.

I read that, The dealership wants you to change oil often. Scare tactic. The way you post seems you are a part of some brand/dealership

dvldocFull synthetics also have ratings like 10w40, mostly all oils have a w rating. Oil goes bad by miles and the quality of filter you use not just with time like a year. You can easily go 8000klm to 10000klm on the good old dyno stuff with a quality filter OEM, VIC, or Union is not going to cut it.

The additive package is the most important part of the oil I rather have a dino oil with high zinc, moly and calcium in it than a semi that has much less. This is like comparing Mobil Delvac Diesel oil to some no name brand synthetic.

If you really want to know more than you ever wanted to know on oil just visit this site. It's the best in the world on the subject.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php[/url]

Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

[StockEngine]

Probably 5 months for 5k. Not sure. My goal on the Rio is to clean the internals though. Is Top1 SDO + Baldwin filter the best choice? I don't mind using diesel engine oil as long as it has 'detergents' enough to clean the internals in the long run and of course safe to use in gas engines.

Zic a+ is not hdeo like top1 sdo.

5k for 5months sound good.

You can look at the engine oil fill port to see if its varnished hehehe. Im guessing less than 50k pa ang odo mo. Engine should still be clean.

Im not sure if top1 sdo is also for gasoline engines.

If you want maximum cleaning, shell helix ultra or the helix hx7. Both have good levels of detergent ie calcium.

Hmmm Top1 Catalogue in the USA doesnt include top1 sdo anymore. Lol

[StockEngine]

I read that, The dealership wants you to change oil often. Scare tactic. The way you post seems you are a part of some brand/dealership



Back read and there is one local who know about engine oil. Seems knowlegeable for a filipino

You change your oil with miles not just with months/years.

And oil companies makes oil for the toughest traffic, road conditon on mind.

Philippines is a haven for marketing people. Filipinos are easily fooled.

Even Motul/Mobil1/Shell and car manufacturers cuts the oil life under severe usage.

I wont stop you if you recommend 1yr for oil changes for severe usage here in the Philippines. Poor Juan following your recommendation though.

Would you buy a 5yo car in the philippines with 5 oil changes in its lifetime?

[#redlantern]

Even Motul/Mobil1/Shell and car manufacturers cuts the oil life under severe usage.

I wont stop you if you recommend 1yr for oil changes for severe usage here in the Philippines. Poor Juan following your recommendation though.

Would you buy a 5yo car in the philippines with 5 oil changes in its lifetime?

Lets be specific here.

I recommend once a year oil change for a gasoline engine or 6,000miles (10,000kms in the philippines) with a group 3 based oil. Whichever comes first.

But with diesel engine its more earlier.

Your example of 5 year old car with 5 oil change. I will check the kilometer readings.

[StockEngine]

Lets be specific here.

I recommend once a year oil change for a gasoline engine or 6,000miles (10,000kms in the philippines) with a group 3 based oil. Whichever comes first.

But with diesel engine its more earlier.

Your example of 5 year old car with 5 oil change. I will check the kilometer readings.

If its a new car, most owners would follow 6mo interval with fully synthetic oil for warranty purposes.

4L fs oil change costs only 2800 pesos. Why save that much when you can prevent possible engine problems.

Its like insurance, you pay abit more to get more.

[#redlantern]

If its a new car, most owners would follow 6mo interval with fully synthetic oil for warranty purposes.

4L fs oil change costs only 2800 pesos. Why save that much when you can prevent possible engine problems.

Its like insurance, you pay abit more to get more.

You sound really a marketing guy.

Its not about saving. Using a dino oil will not make your engine fail.

I hope there is test of different oil but label are covered and will ask consumers how the feel of the engine for the duration of 1year or 6,000miles.

The problem of using expensive oil is the consumer try to justify the cost even it turned to be bad or at par with lower price oil.

[StockEngine]

You sound really a marketing guy.

Its not about saving. Using a dino oil will not make your engine fail.

I hope there is test of different oil but label are covered and will ask consumers how the feel of the engine for the duration of 1year or 6,000miles.

The problem of using expensive oil is the consumer try to justify the cost even it turned to be bad or at par with lower price oil.

So whats the oil life of dino oil in severe usage scenarios ie stop and go traffic?

[StockEngine]

Lets be specific here.

I recommend once a year oil change for a gasoline engine or 6,000miles (10,000kms in the philippines) with a group 3 based oil. Whichever comes first.

Example Mitsubishi Mirage or G4.

This is daily driven in stop and go traffic. Its engine oil capacity is 3L.

Do you really think the 3L engine oil will last 1yr(less than 10000k)?

Do you think the oil filter will last one year also?

Mitsubishi standardized this 6mo oil change for the 1.2L worldwide for a reason.

[bloowolf]

As a matter of reference, I drive approximately 700 kms a week and total drive time is approximately 25 hrs weekly. The route is mostly free flowing traffic with the majority of it in the expressway. I do encounter some traffic but not the kind you experience in Edsa, Quiapo or Makati. I wouldn't consider this severe usage & do top-up with filter change every 5k & full FS o/C every 10k. My o/C interval is approx 6 weeks. For you guys who drive in the metro traffic, how would you quantify your o/C vs time spent idling & short trips? I drive a diesel btw.