Magnafuel review?

**pyramid00** · July 5th, 2017 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

I don't have to try it to know it's crap. I know how to appreciate good piano music even if I can't play a single tune. By the same reasoning, I will be skeptical to any product that sells itself as a cure-it-all.

It's a fake product.... along with all them 'miracle' gadgets.

Ma-coconfuse yung ECU warranting a reprogramming? From what, 'magnetized' fuel? LOL! You're forcing anting-anting type logic and passing them off as science.

Sir oj88, with due respect, your comment is uncalled for at this time. Pls refrain from making negative comments unless you are "sure" of what you are talking about. That's is why we will be submitting our invention for dyno test this july or august to prove to ourselves (not to others) and to our newest investor, an Australian chemical engineer, on the efficacy of the device/s.

We installed it on a fortuner (euro 4?) but the effect was opposite. Lalong hindi makatakbo dahil (in theory) the ecu sensed the increase of 02 flowing and considered this as a lean burn, so it dumped more fuel. We know that for euro 4 engines, we should be installing a EFIE (gas) and MAP enhancer (diesel) to isolate the ecu. Sa mga 1994 models (euro 2), ayos naman siya.

Paano na lang kung maganda ang result ng dyno? Ano magiging excuse mo sa mga 'dirty' comments mo? Eh di 'sorry ha? With good or bad results, I dont want to consider you an adversary. I believe that all TS on tsikot are buddies. In the meantime, pls close the trap and wait. Thank you.

**lowslowbenz** · July 5th, 2017 02:15 PM

Asenso na kayo ngayon ha ..

Dati Tamaraw FX ang test mule nyo, ngayon Fortuner na!

**oj88** · July 5th, 2017 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by pyramid00

Sir oj88, with due respect, your comment is uncalled for at this time. Pls refrain from making negative comments unless you are "sure" of what you are talking about. That's is why we will be submitting our invention for dyno test this july or august to prove to ourselves (not to others) and to our newest investor, an Australian chemical engineer, on the efficacy of the device/s.

We installed it on a fortuner (euro 4?) but the effect was opposite. Lalong hindi makatakbo dahil (in theory) the ecu sensed the increase of 02 flowing and considered this as a lean burn, so it dumped more fuel. We know that for euro 4 engines, we should be installing a EFIE (gas) and MAP enhancer (diesel) to isolate the ecu. Sa mga 1994 models (euro 2), ayos naman siya.

Paano na lang kung maganda ang result ng dyno? Ano magiging excuse mo sa mga 'dirty' comments mo? Eh di 'sorry ha? With good or bad results, I dont want to consider you an adversary. I believe that all TS on tsikot are buddies. In the meantime, pls close the trap and wait. Thank you.

I stand by my trap. Bring it on.

And don't blame a critic. You can't even provide the chemical and/or math formulas proving your theory. You say that magnetism breaks up the hydrocarbons and whatnot... show exactly what formula states X amounts of magnetic flux focused on Y amount of area can break up Z amounts of hydrocarbon molecules.

**pyramid00** · July 5th, 2017 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

Asenso na kayo ngayon ha ..

Dati Tamaraw FX ang test mule nyo, ngayon Fortuner na!

May nagpakabit lang po. Mabuti nga at nasubukan namin sa fortuner. The puzzling part is, we installed the device/s on a innova. Bumaba daw ang idle, kaya pina-adjust ng may-ari, satisfied naman. Luma na rin yong innova kaya medyo may kaunting smoke. Hardly discernible na ngayon, we suggested that he should have the engine checked.

The only difference is; only the EM is installed on the fortuner while the EM/ES (nuvi-nuvi) is installed on the innova. I am puzzled by this. Maybe, we will try the nuvi-nuvi on another fortuner? hmmm I wonder.

LSB, since you are the expert, what's happening?

**pyramid00** · July 5th, 2017 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

I stand by my trap. Bring it on.

And don't blame a critic. You can't even provide the chemical and/or math formulas proving your theory. You say that magnetism breaks up the hydrocarbons and whatnot... show exactly what formula states X amounts of magnetic flux focused on Y amount of area can break up Z amounts of hydrocarbon molecules.

ok, I will answer you later, after the dyno tests. In the meantime, you are asking me the impossible, re chemical/math formulas. Three years lang ako sa electronics technology, that's why.

My answer would be same as my post in #20 of this thread. Since you dont believe ijmca, sila na lang ang pagbuntunan mo ng galit mo.

**niky** · July 5th, 2017 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by pyramid00

Sir, we dont want to give proof about the performance of nuvi-nuvi. We owe it to ourselves to be satisfied with the expected results.(whatever the dyno results will be). What we want to do is; have our old vehicle be dynoed on a monday, install the device/s and come back again on the next monday for the 'after' test. Walang gagawin sa car except use it between manila and cabanatuan.

I dont know the mechanics of decreasing a 10%-15% fc using board and duct tape. What is the principle behind that?

This dyno test will be on power increase, isnt it? A - B test only. No test on fc, smoke reduction or whatever. Only a dyno result. Is it still p4k/test with speedlab? Thanks for any info.

That's not acceptable and not a valid test. The vehicle will have to be left at the testing facility to ensure nothing else is changed on the vehicle. If miles need to be put on it for the ECU to "adjust" to whatever, they can be put on it there at the facility.

RE: board and duct tape: Read the article I posted. Aerodynamic principles, with scientific basis, backed by empirical scientific testing done by many, many other enthusiasts.

Dyno places usually have tail-pipe sniffers for O2. You could just borrow a sniffer from an emissions center for HC and NOx.

**lowslowbenz** · July 5th, 2017 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by pyramid00

LSB, since you are the expert, what's happening?

Wow, you're still at it? After all these years???

Try selling real estate or condo's, I swear you'll earn more.

**pyramid00** · July 5th, 2017 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by niky

That's not acceptable and not a valid test. The vehicle will have to be left at the testing facility to ensure nothing else is changed on the vehicle. If miles need to be put on it for the ECU to "adjust" to whatever, they can be put on it there at the facility.

RE: board and duct tape: Read the article I posted. Aerodynamic principles, with scientific basis, backed by empirical scientific testing done by many, many other enthusiasts.

Dyno places usually have tail-pipe sniffers for O2. You could just borrow a sniffer from an emissions center for HC and NOx.

Tnx for the info. Like I said, this test, A-B, will be only for our own consumption, for our own use and records purposes only. (for our eyes only) It will be on our old car (1994), so no ecu problem. Di, ipa-measure na rin namin with their 02 sensors and have the emission test after the dyno.

The notion that the vehicle will be left at the test facility... Our EM device will take effect only after travelling 200 km (for diesel) and 50-100km (for gasoline); parang "learning effect". while the ES device may take a few minutes to take effect. (usually 5-15 mins).

This tests will be hidden from the public. Anyway, tnx for the info, sir.

**pyramid00** · July 5th, 2017 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

Wow, you're still at it? After all these years???

Try selling real estate or condo's, I swear you'll earn more.

Take 2: what's happening, sir?

We aren't active on selling the device; when an Australian chem engineer saw the device/s and explained to him how it works, he agreed on our simple explanation. Next, he gave us 10k (aus d) to start the ES which is still in its proto stage. Nag lie low na ako a long time ago, however, when he offered the amount without reservations, how am I to refuse?

Our EM device could be modified into several devices, e.g., TENS device, CES device, water conditioner, electromagnetic pulser, (of course, with modifications). I am kinda enjoying it.

The selling business isn't my type. Round hole, square peg. I am more at home in my little workshop; enjoy na enjoy, no worries. Wala akong problem pero nagkaroon ako ng suliranin nang dumating si Australian gent.

**Yatta** · July 5th, 2017 09:06 PM

Meanwhile, I have this rock on my table. i picked this up while hiking and so far no tigers have attacked me at my desk. I have no idea why no tigers have come, so I'm guessing its giving off some energy that tigers hate. Still working on the equation though. I wonder if I should sell it as tiger repellent...

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