help po! what diesel engine I can swap on my Ford escape?

[flaco]

anyone??? can suggest or help me where and what type or model of diesel engine that I can swap on my ford escape front wheel drive?

[g.b.b]

if you can find a ford focus TDCi engine for sale, i guess that would be the closest diesel engine you can exchange in your escape. im just not sure if its a perfect fit.

[mazingerZ]

it would be a difficult proposition to say the least. Wirings need to be compatible, ECU also needs to be replaced. All in all, if you find that the escape is too much a guzzler, sell it and buy a diesel powered SUV or AUV.

[tidus1203]

it would be a difficult proposition to say the least. Wirings need to be compatible, ECU also needs to be replaced. All in all, if you find that the escape is too much a guzzler, sell it and buy a diesel powered SUV or AUV.

Yeah that's the better thing to do...

[flaco]

Yeah that's the better thing to do...

tnx po mga gurus. the thing is.. we are a victim of ondoy and now pa lng po kmi medyo nakakaumpisa ulit kaya ngayon ko lng din po naisipang ayusin ang ford escape kasi mas inuna ko po muna ang mas importante sa bahay. kaya sira na po ang engine tpos nanghinayang na po kmi benta ang escape sa murang halaga lng kasi brandnew namin binili tpos bago pa din natapos hulugan ni misis kaya we are planning na revive na lng cya. 2005 model kasi sya tpos ala po cya covered ng insurance na acts of god eh. kaya kaysa paoverhaul ko makina, bili na lng me makina ksama ang comp box at transmission. hirap naman benta ng flooded at babaratin ka lng tpos kpag may problema sisisihin ka pa ng bibili, kaya naisip ko for life na sa amin ito at palitan ko na lng ng diesel. hehehe....

[tip_tipid]

why not check first if it is still possible to overhaul the engine and transmission?
normally the damage to the eninge and transmission may not be that much if
it was not running at the time of the flooding.

[flaco]

why not check first if it is still possible to overhaul the engine and transmission?
normally the damage to the eninge and transmission may not be that much if
it was not running at the time of the flooding.

napaestemate ko na po sir sa mga mekaniko na pwede magoverhaul. aabutin daw ng more or less 70k. tpos ang casa naman ay 130k plus.

[tip_tipid]

assuming you found a diesle engine with transmission for swapping, have you considered the total cost of conversion and feasibility?

[nap123]

napaestemate ko na po sir sa mga mekaniko na pwede magoverhaul. aabutin daw ng more or less 70k. tpos ang casa naman ay 130k plus.

subukan mo yung 4Ja1 ng pang crosswind medyo pasok siya kuha kana lang ng manual transmission. Meron binebenta ang isuzu philippines brandnew na 4jb1 kasama na ang transmission doon baka pwede gawin yan. Yung jeep nga nagagawa eh hehehe yan may body ka escape pa ang ganda tapos isuzu engine hehehe

[x-wind]

subukan mo yung 4Ja1 ng pang crosswind medyo pasok siya kuha kana lang ng manual transmission. Meron binebenta ang isuzu philippines brandnew na 4jb1 kasama na ang transmission doon baka pwede gawin yan. Yung jeep nga nagagawa eh hehehe yan may body ka escape pa ang ganda tapos isuzu engine hehehe

actually before I have Revo but the engine is C190. then I change the differential for semi low gear.

[niky]

You can't use the Crosswind engine, not easily. You would need to twist the engine around to mate with the stock transmission... or at least a manuat transmission (surplus) from an older Escape. You can't fit the Crosswind 4JA1 in its original north-south configuration without cutting out and rewelding the rear firewall and replacing the rear differential and transmission with the set-up from a Crosswind.

Estimated cost... ohh... about 180k pesos, more or less... that's assuming you can get an engine and transmission for just 80-90k pesos. The rest of the cost is to cover the tons of custom fabrication and replacing the rear transaxle and welding in new mounting points for the rear suspension and differential... oh, and the new fuel system that has to be plumbed in. You can possibly do it cheaper... if you don't mind how ghetto it looks.

If you mate it to the stock transmission, save about 60-80k for the engine, then an adapter plate and machine work (re-splining) on the crankshaft for the transmission... maybe 20k plus. If your Escape is automatic, then budget money for a new transmission, also. About 150k (conservative), and you'll need to find a shop that really knows how to do engine swaps... because this will be all custom work.

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The Focus diesel has never been offered in an Escape. You would need to source the engine from a wrecked Focus TDCi, and pull the entire wiring harness out, as well as the body control modules... expect to spend around half-a-million for a wrecked Focus diesel (engine alone should cost about 250k pesos)... then another 100-150k pesos and about six months to a year for the swap... if it's even possible.

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Now... for realistic options...

Try to contact the secondhand Mazda engine suppliers who hang around Mazdatech.org or Fordclubph.com and source yourself a secondhand Escape engine. Congratulations! You're done!

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If you really want a diesel, the closest fit will be a 2.0 Mazda RF diesel engine. It was not used in any Ford/Mazda products locally, but I think it may have been used in a number of Kias. This gives you the best chance of having engine mounts that fit or are similar enough to require minimum fabrication, as well as the proper axle lengths. And those engines don't have incredibly complicated electronics with them. Since they were offered in front-wheel drive, they present the minimum amount of refabrication to your Escape.

Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.

Neither of these engines is very powerful, and the swap will be complex, but at least they should work. To give yourself the least headache possible, source the engines with transmissions, axles and hubs already... otherwise be prepared to spend for a lot of machine-work adapting your stock hubs to the engine's driveaxle/CV Joints or adapting your stock transmission to the engine. One is expensive, the other is painfully expensive.

[airolynx]

You can't use the Crosswind engine, not easily. You would need to twist the engine around to mate with the stock transmission... or at least a manuat transmission (surplus) from an older Escape. You can't fit the Crosswind 4JA1 in its original north-south configuration without cutting out and rewelding the rear firewall and replacing the rear differential and transmission with the set-up from a Crosswind.

Estimated cost... ohh... about 180k pesos, more or less... that's assuming you can get an engine and transmission for just 80-90k pesos. The rest of the cost is to cover the tons of custom fabrication and replacing the rear transaxle and welding in new mounting points for the rear suspension and differential... oh, and the new fuel system that has to be plumbed in. You can possibly do it cheaper... if you don't mind how ghetto it looks.

If you mate it to the stock transmission, save about 60-80k for the engine, then an adapter plate and machine work (re-splining) on the crankshaft for the transmission... maybe 20k plus. If your Escape is automatic, then budget money for a new transmission, also. About 150k (conservative), and you'll need to find a shop that really knows how to do engine swaps... because this will be all custom work.

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The Focus diesel has never been offered in an Escape. You would need to source the engine from a wrecked Focus TDCi, and pull the entire wiring harness out, as well as the body control modules... expect to spend around half-a-million for a wrecked Focus diesel (engine alone should cost about 250k pesos)... then another 100-150k pesos and about six months to a year for the swap... if it's even possible.

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Now... for realistic options...

Try to contact the secondhand Mazda engine suppliers who hang around Mazdatech.org or Fordclubph.com and source yourself a secondhand Escape engine. Congratulations! You're done!

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If you really want a diesel, the closest fit will be a 2.0 Mazda RF diesel engine. It was not used in any Ford/Mazda products locally, but I think it may have been used in a number of Kias. This gives you the best chance of having engine mounts that fit or are similar enough to require minimum fabrication, as well as the proper axle lengths. And those engines don't have incredibly complicated electronics with them. Since they were offered in front-wheel drive, they present the minimum amount of refabrication to your Escape.

Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.

Neither of these engines is very powerful, and the swap will be complex, but at least they should work. To give yourself the least headache possible, source the engines with transmissions, axles and hubs already... otherwise be prepared to spend for a lot of machine-work adapting your stock hubs to the engine's driveaxle/CV Joints or adapting your stock transmission to the engine. One is expensive, the other is painfully expensive.

This is another way of saying: if you can just have it overhauled, just overhaul it and scrap the idea of swapping your engine to diesel.

+1 on this post above, if you convert your escape to diesel, not only will it be the start of a never ending series of headaches, it's possible resale value will crash to the ground.

[Dieseldude]

This is another way of saying: if you can just have it overhauled, just overhaul it and scrap the idea of swapping your engine to diesel.

+1 on this post above, if you convert your escape to diesel, not only will it be the start of a never ending series of headaches, it's possible resale value will crash to the ground.

Very well said. Korek ka jan.

[TalkTalk01]

[b]Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.

UP.UP.UP. I own an escape which was swapped from V6 to CD20 (standard, crappy engine). Would it make sense or better if the engine be swapped again to a CD20T (Turbo)? Would it make any difference performance wise?