Pure 100% Biodiesel

[wham_10mbps]

Please share and post your testimonials on using Biodiesel "without" any mixtures from mineral based diesel like from Shell, Petron, Caltex or Total and etc.

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[mbeige]

Replace your standard rubber fuel lines to Viton hoses. Get ready with new fuel filters, especially for older cars. Biodiesel cleans up your fuel system (fuel lines, fuel tank, fuel sender, etc). If you do it yourself, nitrile gloves are no match for biodiesel, especially B100. Double glove if you can.

Expect to have a smoother engine, maybe a bit more power or feel of increased power due to increased cetane. However the smoother engine is attributed to lower BTU, so your fuel consumption might increase slightly.

Not sure if B100 is recommended for newer engines. AFAIK the max you can go is B20, some dealers require less if you want to keep your warranty. Check your local dealer for information on this.

I think on a more subjective note, the exhaust smell would be different from using SVO or WVO (straight or waste veggie oil). It might also depend on what kind of plant was used (corn, soy, etc).

[freelance]

san meron available pure biodiesel?.....tnx

[russpogi]

san meron available pure biodiesel?.....tnx

Supermarket. Look for vegetable oils (aka cooking oil).

[russpogi]

* mbeige

what is:

- Viton hoses? where to get?

- nitrile gloves?

[mbeige]

Supermarket. Look for vegetable oils (aka cooking oil).

Pure vegetable oil is NOT biodiesel. Please don't get the two confused. Biodiesel is often a mixture of petro diesel (B99 or less) or a pure concentrate (B100). The number signifies how much is biodiesel. B20 has 20% biodiesel, 80% regular diesel, and so on. Please check this link. I know it's Wikipedia and not as reliable, but it will give you a brief overview of the main differences:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

* mbeige

what is:

- Viton hoses? where to get?

- nitrile gloves?

Viton hoses are more resistant to degradation from using biodiesel than regular rubber fuel hoses. Nitrile gloves are the blue gloves you see less often than latex ones. From experience, nitrile gloves do not easily tear, unlike latex. A small cut will run the whole glove useless since it easily tears. Latex and nitrile aren't also good for biodiesel either, biodiesel will degrade the two quickly. Hence my suggestion to double glove with nitrile, which is hardier than latex when it comes to biodiesel.

[ghosthunter]

Supermarket. Look for vegetable oils (aka cooking oil).

Biodiesel is a product from the raw material vegetable oil plus sulfuric acid and methanol (do I remember the ingredients for home brew biodiesel right?).

Biodiesel is NOT veggie oil.

[russpogi]

Silly me! heheheh! All the while I thought that you can use veggie oil straight as fuel for diesel engines.

Thanks GH and mbeige!

[fourtheboys96]

Silly me! heheheh! All the while I thought that you can use veggie oil straight as fuel for diesel engines.

Thanks GH and mbeige!

pwede naman veggie oil for diesel engines. warm up muna using ordinary diesel. sa myth buster ginawa na nila ito eh.

pero veggie oil is still not biodiesel. iba ata ang chemical composition.

[mbeige]

In essence, you can use SVO (straight veggie oil) directly into the engine but that's expensive because it's not a spent fuel (unlike waste veggie oil, which is WVO). WVO is often recycled there I believe, to cook other foods rather than throw it away. But once you do throw it away there's a process of transesterification, I believe, so you can remove the glycerol I think (I don't use WVO, please excuse the inaccuracy), filter it several times, and add your own ingredients (some people add a bit of regular diesel, some also add a fuel catalyst, while others go to the point of adding less than 5% RUG or regular unleaded gasoline to get it to ignite easily, or easier, than its pure veggie form).

Again please read up first http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

[Mschumacher]

how do you convert to this type of diesel. can it be used on crdi vgt engine.

[rion]

I saw on the news, some taxi drivers on middle east use veggie oil because they didn't have access to fuel.

[yapoy86]

meron ako nakita sa news na pinoy inventor na gumawa na pwedeng gamitin yung mga used cooking oil from big fast food chains as fuel for diesel fed engines... may conversion lang na gagawin which will cost around 40k... wala pa ako alam na detalye pero mukhang ok...

afaik, the first diesel engine invented was using vegetable oil or corn oil as fuel

[mbeige]

It's not fresh news. Many people have been doing it for years already. Maybe he's the first to do it in the Philippines but as far as I know, and I've read quite a bit on diesel fuel alternatives (SVO/WVO/biodiesel/used motor oil/etc), there have been many before him who have gone veggie.

The first diesel engine by Rudolf Diesel, used peanut oil.

[niky]

how do you convert to this type of diesel. can it be used on crdi vgt engine.

So far as I know... not yet... don't know if the filtration can give it enough purity to run on the high pressure injectors.

[wham_10mbps]

mbiege and all, thanks for the thoughts and responses.

Does anyone know which gas company has the highest content of biodiesel? Flying-V?

[yapoy86]

It's not fresh news. Many people have been doing it for years already. Maybe he's the first to do it in the Philippines but as far as I know, and I've read quite a bit on diesel fuel alternatives (SVO/WVO/biodiesel/used motor oil/etc), there have been many before him who have gone veggie.

The first diesel engine by Rudolf Diesel, used peanut oil.

peanut oil used as fuel sa diesel engine.. ano kaya amoy ng exhaust nun?? hehe samahan mo pa ng garlic o bawang ayos!!! mag aamoy adobong mani along edsa hahaha.. sabi nga nila yung biodiesel (coconut based) amoy niyog ang exhaust

sana eto ma develop natin mga pinoy.. biodiesel na mura talaga....

sa totoo lang mahal po ang Vegetable oil... nasa 80 pesos yata yung mantika na pamprito eh...

[ghosthunter]

So far as I know... not yet... don't know if the filtration can give it enough purity to run on the high pressure injectors.

what purity would it need?... 5 micron level?... 1 micron level?

[mbeige]

peanut oil used as fuel sa diesel engine.. ano kaya amoy ng exhaust nun?? hehe samahan mo pa ng garlic o bawang ayos!!! mag aamoy adobong mani along edsa hahaha.. sabi nga nila yung biodiesel (coconut based) amoy niyog ang exhaust

sana eto ma develop natin mga pinoy.. biodiesel na mura talaga....

sa totoo lang mahal po ang Vegetable oil... nasa 80 pesos yata yung mantika na pamprito eh...

P80 a liter na ba ang mantika ngayon?

Iba ang amoy ng veggie oil, sa biodiesel, sa used motor oil pag ginamit ng diesel engine as fuel. Don't even start on used motor oil unless sobrang laspag ang sasakyan mo.

There is a developing company in the biofuels industry. I can't say more on that

[mbeige]

what purity would it need?... 5 micron level?... 1 micron level?

For this application (waste veggie oil on advanced diesel engines such as CRDi TDi and the like) I would simply go with, at most, 20% WVO and 80% regular diesel. Then purify it as good as you can. That way any particulates would be diluted well enough for use in your car.