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    Windbooster - Improve Throttle Response

    Windbooster throttle controller will help you adjust throttle application for better driveability and take your ride to a higher level.


    Philippine distributor:

    0917-2065086

    Kenneth Lai

    Blk.38 lot-10 matthew st. Ph-3D Brgy. Perez, LVDSN Meycauayan, Bulacan 3020


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    Currently have something similar installed on my Vios.

    Called Speed Booster from Dift Xaust.

    Just installed it last Friday and all I can say is even at eco mode maxed (E9), throttle response was quick and noticed that the lag between gears were gone.

    With a Vios 1.5 A/T, I normally feel that I need to step more on the accelerator just to feel some torque. When running between 30-40 KPH (slow cruising traffic), I used to get a lot of lag when trying to accelerate. But now, car is very responsive.

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    That speedbooster is an overpriced electronic throttle controller. More popular brands such as shadow & freepower sells cheaper..


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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    Currently have something similar installed on my Vios.

    Called Speed Booster from Dift Xaust.

    Just installed it last Friday and all I can say is even at eco mode maxed (E9), throttle response was quick and noticed that the lag between gears were gone.

    With a Vios 1.5 A/T, I normally feel that I need to step more on the accelerator just to feel some torque. When running between 30-40 KPH (slow cruising traffic), I used to get a lot of lag when trying to accelerate. But now, car is very responsive.
    Thanks for the share.

    Did it improve fuel consumption?

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    What those gadgets do is simply simulate "responsiveness" by increasing the sensitivity or the rate of change on the throttle opening and/or even amplifying the output to the ECM. For example, in an unmodified vehicle, let's say that a certain throttle input by the driver is interpreted as 20% of WOT by the ECM. If you add the gadget, the same driver input would probably bump up the signal to 30% or so, telling the ECM to open the throttle faster and/or wider to give the sensation of responsiveness to the driver.

    It does NOT alter physics and will NOT make the car any faster.

    I read through the product features and actually laughed at the some of their claims... see such example below:

    However, the drive-by-wire system has its limitation, ECM controls the electronic signal to give instructions by identifying the depth of the accelerator pedal, and make the engine provide the matched power, unfortunately, the signal delay of electronic throttle valve will impede the normal acceleration of vehicles, under some circumstances, such as going uphill, there will be strong setback, even cause the vehicle’s sudden leap.
    Two things: First, electrons travel faster in an electronic/drive-by-wire accelerator pedal system compared to a cable-type/mechanical throttle. 2nd, any inherent delays are deliberately programmed in the ECM to balance performance, fuel economy, and more importantly, longevity of the powertrain.

    For example, the ECM is programmed to retard the throttle (what the article calls "setback") during shifting so power is delivered only AFTER the A/T has shifted and locked on to the next gear. This happens when you stomp on the gas pedal to overtake or when climbing a hill and the ECM decides to shift to a lower gear. Bypassing this feature could mean accelerated wear on the A/T clutch packs as the engine is allowed to run at high RPM while the clutch is 'dumped' on the next gear. Yes, it may produce some impressive wheel spin but, is that really your cup of tea?

    If you need more acceleration in a jam, do what every driver worth its salt does.... put the pedal to the metal. It yields the same result, but for FREE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Thanks for the share.

    Did it improve fuel consumption?
    Still under observation sir. Installed it with 3/4 fuel remaining in tank. And since the car is not used often, it still has 1/4 remaining. Current consumption is at 8km/L. Will provide data once I complete another full tank cycle.

    As per sir oj88, yes it just increases the responsiveness. Since people tend to get used to a certain position of their foot when driving, this gadget just tends to augment the feeling of something that you are already used to.
    But once you get used to a certain setting, then again you might make another adjustment until you may want some more.
    In my case, I'm fed up of continuously adjusting my seat and trying to find the sweet spot (and yes I have short legs ), now at least I can move further back and relax my legs (no issues for me actually when driving vans or flat nosed trucks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    What those gadgets do is simply simulate "responsiveness" by increasing the sensitivity or the rate of change on the throttle opening and/or even amplifying the output to the ECM. For example, in an unmodified vehicle, let's say that a certain throttle input by the driver is interpreted as 20% of WOT by the ECM. If you add the gadget, the same driver input would probably bump up the signal to 30% or so, telling the ECM to open the throttle faster and/or wider to give the sensation of responsiveness to the driver.

    It does NOT alter physics and will NOT make the car any faster.

    I read through the product features and actually laughed at the some of their claims... see such example below:



    Two things: First, electrons travel faster in an electronic/drive-by-wire accelerator pedal system compared to a cable-type/mechanical throttle. 2nd, any inherent delays are deliberately programmed in the ECM to balance performance, fuel economy, and more importantly, longevity of the powertrain.

    For example, the ECM is programmed to retard the throttle (what the article calls "setback") during shifting so power is delivered only AFTER the A/T has shifted and locked on to the next gear. This happens when you stomp on the gas pedal to overtake or when climbing a hill and the ECM decides to shift to a lower gear. Bypassing this feature could mean accelerated wear on the A/T clutch packs as the engine is allowed to run at high RPM while the clutch is 'dumped' on the next gear. Yes, it may produce some impressive wheel spin but, is that really your cup of tea?

    If you need more acceleration in a jam, do what every driver worth its salt does.... put the pedal to the metal. It yields the same result, but for FREE.
    Well said.

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    I was told by my friend last night that the "eco/economy" mode is just really the factory mode of any vehicle and using this feature on say, the speed booster device won't really give a significant effect on fuel economy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    In my case, I'm fed up of continuously adjusting my seat and trying to find the sweet spot (and yes I have short legs ), now at least I can move further back and relax my legs (no issues for me actually when driving vans or flat nosed trucks).

    Which also takes you further away from the brake pedal ...

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    Electronic Throttle Controller is the new (Khaos Turbo) Fuel Saving device ... People these days or those days just need a little common sense ... Car Companies spend a lot of money hiring engineers to research on these things ...

    If these devices were really useful and necessary, they would be installed in the factory already ... Think ABS, ASC, Airbags, Auto Brake, Blind Spot Monitoring, Cross-Traffic Alert, EBD, LSD, Radar Cruise Control, Reverse Sensors, Reverse Cameras, etc ...

    Then there's this Alkaline Water ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    I was told by my friend last night that the "eco/economy" mode is just really the factory mode of any vehicle and using this feature on say, the speed booster device won't really give a significant effect on fuel economy...
    There is a setting wherein you can set it back to "neutral" or default factory mode. Since the car is seldom used, test may take some time but will keep on updating.
    Currently, fuel consumption had improved - through the display readout it used to be at 9KM/L, now it's at 9.2KM/L

    Full tank method:
    June 23rd - 12,403KM total, 200.0KM since last fill. Filled up 25.28L, so - 200/25.28 = 7.91KM per liter
    July 12th - 12,613KM total, 210.6KM since last fill (June 23). Filled up 24.45L, so - 210.6/24.45 = 8.613KM per liter
    July 24th - 12,858KM total, 244.7KM since last fill (July 12). Filled up 23.40L, so - 244.7/23.40 = 10.45KM per liter

    Although one might say that it is so obvious that the gadget does its job, there are other factors that may have attributed to the improvement on the gas mileage:

    *Replaced air filter (OEM) July 13
    *Replaced oil and oil filter July 14
    *Engine oil from 5w-40 to 5w-30
    *Traffic has been lighter than usual the previous weeks. Most probably due to the number of typhoons that passed through the country.
    *Not much load on A/C since the weather was good. Just 1-2 clicks on the thermostat. (3 on hotter days).

    As much as I want to convince myself that the improved response on the throttle is just placebo, however, even my wife noticed the difference. (She didn't know about the controller).

    I kept the records on the above since I really want to see if the advertised benefits are true.

    Still, I'm collecting more data since the vehicle usage is irregular including the route.


    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Which also takes you further away from the brake pedal ...
    However, the brake pedal is more elevated or forward than the accelerator plus I always do smooth braking and even I'm a bit further (just a couple of clicks anyway), I can still manage to floor the brakes when needed. (Got used to threshold braking)

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    There is a setting wherein you can set it back to "neutral" or default factory mode. Since the car is seldom used, test may take some time but will keep on updating.
    Currently, fuel consumption had improved - through the display readout it used to be at 9KM/L, now it's at 9.2KM/L

    Full tank method:
    June 23rd - 12,403KM total, 200.0KM since last fill. Filled up 25.28L, so - 200/25.28 = 7.91KM per liter
    July 12th - 12,613KM total, 210.6KM since last fill (June 23). Filled up 24.45L, so - 210.6/24.45 = 8.613KM per liter
    July 24th - 12,858KM total, 244.7KM since last fill (July 12). Filled up 23.40L, so - 244.7/23.40 = 10.45KM per liter

    Although one might say that it is so obvious that the gadget does its job, there are other factors that may have attributed to the improvement on the gas mileage:

    *Replaced air filter (OEM) July 13
    *Replaced oil and oil filter July 14
    *Engine oil from 5w-40 to 5w-30
    *Traffic has been lighter than usual the previous weeks. Most probably due to the number of typhoons that passed through the country.
    *Not much load on A/C since the weather was good. Just 1-2 clicks on the thermostat. (3 on hotter days).

    As much as I want to convince myself that the improved response on the throttle is just placebo, however, even my wife noticed the difference. (She didn't know about the controller).

    I kept the records on the above since I really want to see if the advertised benefits are true.

    Still, I'm collecting more data since the vehicle usage is irregular including the route.



    Keep us posted good buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Keep us posted good buddy
    Is this the same with Speedpower Fuel Economizer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlieMarcelo View Post
    Is this the same with Speedpower Fuel Economizer?
    No sir. This is a throttle controller placed between the accelerator pedal and the throttle connection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Keep us posted good buddy
    Apologies if my response took some time. As mentioned earlier, Vehicle is seldom used.

    Previously:

    June 23rd - 12,403KM total, 200.0KM since last fill. Filled up 25.28L, so - 200/25.28 = 7.91KM per liter
    July 12th - 12,613KM total, 210.6KM since last fill (June 23). Filled up 24.45L, so - 210.6/24.45 = 8.613KM per liter
    July 24th - 12,858KM total, 244.7KM since last fill (July 12). Filled up 23.40L, so - 244.7/23.40 = 10.45KM per liter

    Latest:

    August 18th - 13,168KM total, 310.2KM since last fill. Filled up 24.91L. 310.2KM/24.91 = 12.45KM/L (I had a long highway drive back and forth)
    August 28th - 13,441Km total, 272.7KM done. Filled up 25.55L. 272.7KM/25.55L = 10.67KM/L
    September 15th - 13,654KM total, 212.8 done. Filled up 25.67L. 212.8KM/25.67 = 8.28Km/L (Lots of heavy acceleration, spirited driving, and traffic with S1(sport 1) setting and E6)

    Although the device seems to help, but considering other factors such as driving habit, road/traffic condition, weather condition, and the vehicle condition itself totally affects fuel consumption.
    For the price? Overpriced and maybe an unneeded device. But helps in the psychological feeling that your vehicle gained extra power specially if you can adjust it on the fly.
    Last edited by midnytwarrior; September 24th, 2018 at 03:16 PM. Reason: controller to connection

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    It's been a month after I installed throttle controller to my 09 Innova Gas M/T. Brand is PedalTune from Zix Performance. 3 modes (eco, sports and race) each has 7 settings. Priced at P7,500. 5 minutes install lang.

    All the settings are above the stock mode unlike others that has eco mode below the stock. So far nabawasan sobra yun lag. Kunting tapak lang meron ng "laman" yun accelerator pedal. Hindi nakakapagod sa paa lalo na sa trapik kasi kunti lang diin mo lage. Ok din siya sa mga inclined parking na kelagan mo ng power pero controlled. Kunting pitik lang may power na unlike sa stock minsan mamatayan ka or e-timpla mo maayos clutch kasi walang power after mo diinan silinyador. Fuel consumption is the same lang.

    Pansin ko lang smooth yun acceleration niya pag bigla mo tinapakan yun acceleration pedal habang tumatakbo hindi katulad ng stock mode na parang nag jerk.

    Since hindi naman talaga kalakasan ang power ng Innova Gas, naka race mode mid setting lang ako lage kasi siya yun ang deliver ng power at slight tap ng pedal so feeling mo magaan lang un sasakyan. Arangkada na isang pitik lang.

    Cheap upgrade ito na sulit. Kung ayaw mo tanggalin mo lang at benta. Walng wire na masira.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Louga View Post
    It's been a month after I installed throttle controller to my 09 Innova Gas M/T. Brand is PedalTune from Zix Performance. 3 modes (eco, sports and race) each has 7 settings. Priced at P7,500. 5 minutes install lang.

    All the settings are above the stock mode unlike others that has eco mode below the stock. So far nabawasan sobra yun lag. Kunting tapak lang meron ng "laman" yun accelerator pedal. Hindi nakakapagod sa paa lalo na sa trapik kasi kunti lang diin mo lage. Ok din siya sa mga inclined parking na kelagan mo ng power pero controlled. Kunting pitik lang may power na unlike sa stock minsan mamatayan ka or e-timpla mo maayos clutch kasi walang power after mo diinan silinyador. Fuel consumption is the same lang.

    Pansin ko lang smooth yun acceleration niya pag bigla mo tinapakan yun acceleration pedal habang tumatakbo hindi katulad ng stock mode na parang nag jerk.

    Since hindi naman talaga kalakasan ang power ng Innova Gas, naka race mode mid setting lang ako lage kasi siya yun ang deliver ng power at slight tap ng pedal so feeling mo magaan lang un sasakyan. Arangkada na isang pitik lang.

    Cheap upgrade ito na sulit. Kung ayaw mo tanggalin mo lang at benta. Walng wire na masira.



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    how's your fuel consumption, po?
    ...km/liter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    how's your fuel consumption, po?
    ...km/liter...
    The same lang before and after ng kabit. siguro kasi magaan lang talaga paa ko sa gas kaya hindi affected consumption. same driving habit lang.

    City driving 7km/l meduim to heavy traffic.
    Highway 10km/l full load

    Na switched ko sa full settings at mas naging ok response nya. halos wala ng delay. kahit city driving in full setting ok naman. hindi naman kamahalan itong upgrade and you can transfer lang sa ibang sasakyan basta compatible.

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