Fuel Consumption for 1.1 Engine question

[ajkotse]

Hi Guys!

I recently bought Hyundai Getz 1.1 2010 (gas).
I'm only getting 10-11km/L traffic/highway mix. Bihira ako mag-aircon at madalas magfree wheeling pag-pwde
malakas ba siya sa gas or tama lang siya? Binili ko siya dahil 1.1 lang siya thinking na mas makakatipid ako sa gas.
We have a toyota corolla xe (14yrs old car) 1.3 engine nya at halos same lang ng fuel consumption sa Getz ko. sobrang disappointed ako right now...
I'm not sure if I'm expecting a lot from this subcompact cars... madami ako nababasa normal consumption lang daw talaga ang 10-12km/L
I was expecting at least 15km/L.

Any advice? comment? suggestion?

Thanks Tsikoters! more power!

[1D4LV]

i also own a 1.1 getz.
my average is just the same as yours, mixed city - highway.
my best so far was 15 kpl, pure highway, worst so far was around 9 kpl, pure city.

daming factors on FC eh.... like load, traffic conditions, etc.

[ajkotse]

Thanks for clearing this up,, gnun nga siguro normal FC ng getz, still a lil disappointd dhil same lng cla ng sobrang lumang car nmin, pero to be fair not bad nmn tlg ang FC ng getz, i was just expecting more lng tlg for a 1.1 and newer car.

[glenn manikis]

kung gusto mo sir talaga ng matipid buy a diesel car....

[niky]

There are several reasons:

For one, older carbureted engines use no catalytic converter. This means no power-robbing restrictions on the exhaust and they can be tuned to run leaner at low rpms, which means better economy. Modern engines cannot run leaner than 14.7:1 because any leaner would cause excessive nitrous oxide emissions. One of the most economical cars of all time, the 1993 Civic VX, would be illegal nowadays because of nitrous emissions.

For another, the Corolla 1.3 (I assume this is the FX body?) actually weighs less than the Getz.(about 50-60 kilograms less) Less weight means better economy, no matter what engine is under the hood.

And then there's the aircon issue. Whatever the size of your engine, an aircon compressor takes some 15 horsepower to turn. For a big motor, 15 horsepower is nothing. For a small motor like the 1.1, it's a huge drag.

And lastly, the Getz has very long gearing. I have a suspicion the gearbox was designed to accomodate the full range of engine selections for the Getz, meaning it may be optimum for the 1.4 or diesel, but is too long for the 1.1. Second gear, in particular, feels waaay too long to be practical. If the gearing is too long, you tend to press down harder on the gas pedal to get going. Which uses more gas. And then fifth gear is too short. The Getz does almost 3k rpm at 100 km/h. Not good for highway economy.

That you're getting the same economy means it's doing decently enough, but it's never going to be as exceptional as something like a Suzuki Alto, which weighs nearly 200 kilograms less.

You can get 15 km/l from the Getz, but not in rush hour traffic. Probably 11 is the best it can do in pure city driving. The modern cars that get 13+ in traffic would be the Alto and Eon.

To save fuel with the Getz, make sure that it's in good condition. At least it uses a MAP sensor instead of the more fragile MAF, so that's not a worry. Change the oil, clean the air filter and check the timing. Make sure your tire pressures are correct (about 30-35 psi). drive with the AC thermostat set at a little warmer temperature, not full cold. And don't expect the same power as a 1.3 or 1.5 from the 1.1. Let it accelerate at its own pace, and stick to a strict 80 km/h limit on the highway. When we do 20+ km/l runs on the highway with cars like the Eon or the Focus TDCi, it's always at 80 km/h. If you want to see 20+ km/l from the Getz, get it out on the NLEX, and cruise down the entire length at about 2000-2200 rpm in 5th gear at 70 km/h.

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When we tested the Getz Diesel, was vaguely disappointed that I was only doing 14 km/l. But then again, I was doing 140 km/h...

[1D4LV]

The Getz does almost 3k rpm at 100 km/h.

thanks Niks also for this info. Kala ko may problema transmission ko eh.... hehehehehe kaya pala.
but then again, since this is a small car, my average speed is only at 80-85 kph, at around 2.5k rpm.

[ajkotse]

thanks niky sa mga tips! really appreciate it!

*1D4LV is your max speed for getz is 85kph? same kasi tayo..never ko pa siya napatakbo ng more than 100... tingin ko kaya pa siya patakbuhin ng mas mabilis kaso hindi ko niririsk... parang mabilis na siya para sa speed ng 85kph.. feeling ko bka d n nya kayanin yung 100kph lalo na kung matagal n byahe..

[renzo_d10]

Sa kaya, kaya ng getz. Yun driver ang tanong kung kaya more than 100 hehe

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[ghosthunter]

Hi Guys!

I recently bought Hyundai Getz 1.1 2010 (gas).
I'm only getting 10-11km/L traffic/highway mix. Bihira ako mag-aircon at madalas magfree wheeling pag-pwde
malakas ba siya sa gas or tama lang siya? Binili ko siya dahil 1.1 lang siya thinking na mas makakatipid ako sa gas.
We have a toyota corolla xe (14yrs old car) 1.3 engine nya at halos same lang ng fuel consumption sa Getz ko. sobrang disappointed ako right now...
I'm not sure if I'm expecting a lot from this subcompact cars... madami ako nababasa normal consumption lang daw talaga ang 10-12km/L
I was expecting at least 15km/L.

Any advice? comment? suggestion?

Thanks Tsikoters! more power!

Sell the car and buy a Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2L

[ajkotse]

[quote=renzo_d10;2048449]Sa kaya, kaya ng getz. Yun driver ang tanong kung kaya more than 100 hehe


haha napapatakbo ko naman 100 pero bihira lang... feeling ko lilipad na kasi ako eh :P parang naka "come fly with me" na cheat sa GTA :P

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Sell the car and buy a Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2L

argh! totally agree sir! hahaha! pero tapusin ko lang muna ang monthly ko hahaha! nakakita na ako mirage sa daan... grabe.... ang angas inggit ako :P

[niky]

Sell the car and buy a Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2L

Fanboy!

[1D4LV]

thanks niky sa mga tips! really appreciate it!

*1D4LV is your max speed for getz is 85kph? same kasi tayo..never ko pa siya napatakbo ng more than 100... tingin ko kaya pa siya patakbuhin ng mas mabilis kaso hindi ko niririsk... parang mabilis na siya para sa speed ng 85kph.. feeling ko bka d n nya kayanin yung 100kph lalo na kung matagal n byahe..

nope, my fastest was 120 kph..
getz was made for city driving, so pag yung getz ang dala ko, medyo tame ako....

[ajkotse]

Tama2 pero kaya naman siya patakbuhin 100+ pero aun nga for city tlg cya e, compare mo s mga suv prng ung 140km e controlado mo pa mabuti

[jaypee10]

balak ko pa naman ibenta honda vti ko...

akala ko makaka tipid ako sa getz....same consumption din pala...konsumo ako ng 10 kmpl city drive ,,pag naka rekta nlex..nag 14 ,,,

muntik ko na ibenta...sayang lang pala..kasi ang sarap pa naman gamitin ng vti ko.malaki at maluwag..napaka komportableng sakyan..

akala ko..kaya ng getz ang15 kmpl / 18 kmpl

[ajkotse]

balak ko pa naman ibenta honda vti ko...

akala ko makaka tipid ako sa getz....same consumption din pala...konsumo ako ng 10 kmpl city drive ,,pag naka rekta nlex..nag 14 ,,,

muntik ko na ibenta...sayang lang pala..kasi ang sarap pa naman gamitin ng vti ko.malaki at maluwag..napaka komportableng sakyan..

akala ko..kaya ng getz ang15 kmpl / 18 kmpl

depende talaga sir e... ung dinadaanan ko kasi lagi traffic... hindi nga ako maka-tres, lagi nasa segunda, stop and go pa lagi... so ang hirap talaga icompare... still computing my km/L ulit... uupdate ko ang thread na toh once nacompute ko na...

huli ko kasi compute 8.8L lang which is sobrang impossible... kasi nagpa-gas ako then pinasok ko sa casa for PMS, pag-uwi ko wala na agad ako gas... sabi sakin mukhang kinuhaan ng gas sa casa... wala naman ako proof kaya nagcocompute ulit ako... so far base sa ODO ko ngaun nasa 8km/L na siya at madami pa ako gas... so rough estimate ko aabot siya 12km/L *pure city drive toh ngaun, puro traffic*

basta all I know... Una at huli beses ko na magpapa-casa sa Hyundai *XXXXX* secret muna sang casa hehe may inavail pa ako warranty sakanila e... pagnakuha ko na yun saka ko na sabihin :P pero pagpinasok ko ulit getz ko sakanila... ubusin ko muna gas at 100pesos lang ikakarga ko!!!! hehehe!

[shelu]

Sell the car and buy a Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2L

my old but reliable 17-year old kia cd5 still gives me 13 km/l on city driving and a very efficient 18-20km/l on hiway when cruising at 70kph. most of all, it's just 10% of the value of your new cars. downside? disregard beauty.

[exoskeleton]

sir that 3k rpm to a 100kph, is that a high rpm for that speed?

[niky]

sir that 3k rpm to a 100kph, is that a high rpm for that speed?

Obviously, the lower the rpm at a certain speed, the higher the fuel economy.

Some new cars do only 1500-2000 at 100 km//h.

[istan]

*ajkotse

Lahat ng casa na dinatnan ko, kinukuhaan ako ng gas. One time nahuli ko, kasi yun na-Log sa akin sa papel na needle, biglang bumaba ng 1/4.
Ba! Sabi ko sa service advisor, mukhang tinira nyo ako ng gas a. Then pinakita ko sa kanila yun form na "listahan ng mga bangga, gamit sa loob, working ba ang mga instruments". May proof ako, so, binigyan ako ng 250php. :D

Grabe talaga casa, taga na, nakaw gas pa. Try mo i-note yun needle mo pag pasok sa casa, then sabihin mo, sa service advisor, binantayan ko yun needle ko ha. Pag malaki bawas, sisinggilin kita.

[istan]

*niky

To add, usually, its those 2.0L cars and those w/ CVT or 6th gear transmission.
For 1.6L and below, its usually 2,800 rpm or higher at 100kph. Why? Need torque. :D