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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Im thinking of an engine swap as a future project for my old rust bucket...

    Things I want in this project is that:
    * A fuel injected engine
    * I was thinking if it is possible for a V6 pajero engine to mount on a manual/matic RWD Transmission.
    *4G63 N/A would be simple and practical, but its too common. (but still my last option)
    *Diesel is out of the question.

    My donor car is an old Dodge Colt Wagon (Galant).

    Any suggestions?

    If you have, can you advice me on how to go about the installation of that certain engine?

    Thanks!

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    You have a few choices... 4G63T... 4AGE, GZE or 20V... or an SR20DE or DET.

    The SR20DE, to me, is attractive because it's cheap, relatively light (for a 2 liter engine) and it gives good low-down torque. With the popularity of drifting nowadays, there should be a lot of people bringing these engines in.

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  3. #3
    nasabi na nya,e....sr20de din vote ko

    kasya kaya 6a12/13TT? or rb25DETT or rb20det or 1jgte or 2jgte???

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    The RB engines might be too long for the car... and they're iron-blocks... really heavy.

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    yung sa tokyo-drift-->anung nissan engine yung kinabit sa muscle car? "ca"-series?

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    RB25DET or RB26DETT... I think.

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  7. #7
    pero alam ko sylvia ang donor-->ung unang na-wreck nung bida....

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    Pero custom-engine din yun... if it was the Silvia, it was an SR20DET.

    Hmmm... time to wiki!

    Okay, tama... it's an RB26DETT swapped into the Silvia. RBs into Silvias are popular swaps, as they fit with just a little cutting on the hood.

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    #9
    6A12TT di ko lang alam kung swak tranny ng 4g32 dito.

    afaik, pwede yung tranny ng 4g32 sa 63na, 63t...

  10. #10
    siguro--review ko nga yung show sometime....

    wala magsusugest ng mazda? yung sa miata 1.8L or BP-T? may naliligaw na s2000-engine sa surplus market natin a...f20b ba yun?


    OT(shameless plug): hehe ako, choices ko for my lite: 4age-20v-BT, 4agze, 3sgte, 3C-Te, 3L-t, 1kz-te, 2kdftv or 1kdftv....kung alin dun pwede magkasya ang 4wd ko parin.....

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    Being an old school enthusiast, Im really not into turbo, I still want that "hagok sound", I just want a modern engine for reliability and ease of mind.

    The car is too nice to go hybrid, so mitsu engines are a priority.

    Di ba may 4X2 V6 ang pajero? Maybe this could fit in.

    If the engine is from a FWD, I want to know how it could be converted to RWD, what tranny to use, etc.

    SR20DE (N/A) is another cheap alternative, very tempting!!!

    Yes, the sylvia in tokyo drift had a worked RB26DET w/c later on was swapped out to the mustang body.

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    RE: Miata engine... too much work for too little gain. Even the 1.8 is kinda weak, and it put out so little that Mazda had to downgrade the HP ratings for it after a while (sounds familiar, huh? ).

    The problem with a V6 or Pajero block is physical space limitations. You might be able to shoehorn one in, but clearance and cooling difficulties may make it unreliable... a four-banger is still your best bet... or if you can fit a 4G32 transmission to a naturally aspirated 6A12, that would be great... but I wouldn't want to be the guy who has to design the custom exhaust manifolds...

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    maliit yata ang space ng dodge colt engine bay to fit the V6 from a montero/pajero...unless willing kang lakihan ang butas ng firewall

    the 4G63 (galant engine ba eto?) are from FF cars, baka walang magmatch na tranny.

    you don't have other choice yata but do a hybrid.

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    Mga Sir, baka kasi iniisip niyo na yung old old (71) Dodge Colt ang kotse ko, yung Dodge Colt ko yung malaki na galant sigma.

    Attached is a picture of my future project car.

    Small block lang naman ang V6 ng mitsu, kasya naman... ata...

    Pag 4G63 naman ng GTi, di ba pa harap ng firewall yung intake?
    Paano yun?

    Ano yung 6A12... engine na sinasabi niyo?

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    The 6A12 is a 200hp 2 liter V6 found in the FTO.

    Supposedly the 4G63 can use the 4G32 transmission, so a 4G63 from the GTi can fit the Sigma... and supposedly, again, the 6A12 can share FWD trannies with the 4G63... so it might be possible to use the original tranny with that engine... or not... it'll probably be hell to work out the wiring.

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    Problem is, most of the FTO's are A/T, would the ECU work properly if mated to a 5 speed RWD M/T?

    Yes, looks like wiring will ba a hell to work out! hehe...

    In the case naman of a SR20DE engine, puede from A/T to M/T without replacing the ECU, advatage pa kasi the A/T ECU will give you more RPM range, tsaka subok na ito.

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    Yup. And the swap is relatively cheap. (Hell, everyone's doing it.)

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    a 6 cylinder engine wont fit a 4 cylinder tranny and vice versa... for mitsu engines, that is.

  19. #19
    4g93(ba yun)-turbo ka nalang..pero 1.8L lang.... may rwd version, pero galing sa pajero IO....baka masyado na complex ang GDI versions, much more gdi-turbo ng mga ganitong makina, lalo na for swap...

    4g64->2.4L gas....

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