Engine Swap/Shop... Please Help

[EGcoolmhan]

hi guys,
newbie lang po ako dito, may alam po ba kayo na nagswa-swap ng engine at mga shop na nagtitinda ng engine?balak ko po magchange engine ng B16A or D15B lalagay ko sa Esi ko kasi parang bitin po ako sa PH16 engine ng Esi..anu kaya mas maganda modify ko nalang kaya yung dating engine ko o engine swap nalang..PAtulong po mga sir!

[niky]

You can do a cheap head swap with a JDM D15B. That's a 130 hp 1.5... I don't know kung swak yun sa D16/PH16 block, but it should be... would give you 135 hp, then mods ka for a total of 140-145 hp... that's good enough.

Kung B16A swap... dami puwede... almost any performance shop can do it. Last I heard (over a year ago), cost would be about 100k... that's engine (EG B16A should be around 160hp) plus hubs/brakes and fuel tank (you need the fuel tank, for sure).

Yung limit lang talaga is yung budget mo. ;)

[EGcoolmhan]

Thanks bro, by the way, magkano estimated na magagastos ko kung go for mods nalang sa PH16?any recommended shop na gumagawa nito?kung sakaling totally change engine nalang kaya ng B16A, kasi po mahilig din po ako humataw pag open road, yun lang habol ko.pwede magigyan mo ako ng list ng shops na may engine swap na pwede ako mag-inquire?

thanks niky!

[niky]

Don't know particulars... marami sa Evang at Banaue. In Q.C., only shops I really know that do that stuff are Fusion R, Speedlab and Autoplus, but a lot of minor garages can do it.

To mod the PH16 isn't difficult... minor intake and exhaust mods, plus an SAFC and some distributor timing advance should give you more than enough "kick". The D16 is very responsive to mods, and you have a lot of options in terms of original, surplus headers that will give you lots of power.

[EGcoolmhan]

What is SAFC stands for?so, in other words mas maganda nalang kung PH16 muna gamitin ko habang wala pa budget pang change engine.may sinasabi sila na mag stage 1 daw ako?anu po yun ibig sabihin nun?actually ang nagawa ko palang sa car eh change na ako ng clutch at tension wire,anu pa kaya susunod ko para lumakas at puwede narin hatawin..psensiya na po kasi po wala po ako talaga alam sa mga ganyang bagay.

salamat pala sa mga reply mo..

[niky]

Stage I, Stage II, Stage III... it all depends on who you ask.

Usually, people regard buying an air filter, putting on some headers and an exhaust as stage I. Others consider any "bolt-on" (meaning you can just attach it to the engine and use it as-is) as Stage I. This includes lighter flywheels, aggressive camshafts, etcetera. You can also do ignition advance (done by cranking the distributor and double-checking the timing with a light) and fuel control here... but some people rate fuel control as Stage II.

Stage II often includes port and polishing, higher compression (change of pistons and rods) and the like... while Stage III takes this a step further. Definitions may vary.

An SAFC - Air Fuel Controller... allows you to adjust your fueling. Most stock engines run slightly or moderately rich (in other words, they dump gasoline into the chamber) to run cooler. You can adjust your fuel mixture for a few horses.

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But the thing is, after Stage I, it gets very expensive, and you may be better off just swapping in the B16A.

For a "cheap" but "good" build, Stage I modifications will include an air filter tube (a plastic Simota tube will do), a good air filter (K&N or Apexi) and a secondhand set of original headers (or a brand new custom set), a mandrel-bent midpipe, a good resonator and a muffler.

This will typically net you about 10-15 hp (or even as high as 20-25 if you've got a great header), and will cost you, with good budgetting, about 30,000 pesos... maybe more, maybe less, depending on how nice/cheap you want your set-up to be.

[EGcoolmhan]

Sir Niky, tanung po ulit, nag-inquire po kami ng friend ko na mgapagawa ng Customs na Headers sabi nila anu daw ipapagawa ko na klase daw, 4-2-1 or 4-1 na design na headers.? 1.) anu po tawag po dun at 2.) anu po size ng pipe na pwede po sa akin? 3.)ok lang po ba na kahit di na ako mag muffler o kaya magdown pipe nalang ako.. 4.) san po ako makakabili ng simota plastik pipe w/ K&N filter?magkano po kaya?

salamat po sa mga reply mo sir..kaw lang po nagrereply po sa akin..

[ruelsdcz]

You can do a cheap head swap with a JDM D15B. That's a 130 hp 1.5... I don't know kung swak yun sa D16/PH16 block, but it should be... would give you 135 hp, then mods ka for a total of 140-145 hp... that's good enough.

Kung B16A swap... dami puwede... almost any performance shop can do it. Last I heard (over a year ago), cost would be about 100k... that's engine (EG B16A should be around 160hp) plus hubs/brakes and fuel tank (you need the fuel tank, for sure).

Yung limit lang talaga is yung budget mo. ;)

sir niky...medyo di ko po nakuha ung cnabi nyo. correct me if im wrong...hindi na papalitan ung buong PH16 engine instead mods lang cya with D15B? ung friend ko palit buo cya fr PH16 a/t to D15B a/t pati tranny, ECU and wirings. 50 percent po ang natipid nya sa FC. sa PH16 a/t(mods:simota filter)round trip olongapo<>sn. fernando 125kms eh 500petot(42.50 XCS/ltr)...cya po
D15B(no mods) 350 petot lang. kya interesado ako. ty po

[ruelsdcz]

sir niky...medyo di ko po nakuha ung cnabi nyo. correct me if im wrong...hindi na papalitan ung buong PH16 engine instead mods lang cya with D15B? ung friend ko palit buo cya fr PH16 a/t to D15B a/t pati tranny, ECU and wirings. 50 percent po ang natipid nya sa FC. sa PH16 a/t(mods:simota filter)round trip olongapo<>sn. fernando 125kms eh 500petot(42.50 XCS/ltr)...cya po
D15B(no mods) 350 petot lang. kya interesado ako. ty po

cencya na po mali fig ko almost 50% po pala ang diff and 600+ po pala ung consumo ng PH16 a/t ko round trip olongapo<>sn. fernando.