Corolla 90 GL Problem : Tumutilamsik pataas ang langis pag binuksan yung refill cap

[manley]

Guys,

First I noticed na nasa kalahati na lang ang oil level (based on the dis stick). Kaka-change-oil lang last month. Then I found out na nagli-leak ang langis pataas hanggang sa pumasok na sa cylinder. Basa ng langis ang spark plugs ng tanggalin ko. With idle engine, tumitilamsik pataas ang langis pag binuksan yung refill cap. According to my uncle, oil pushing daw yun and the solution is overhaul.... Whew... Holdup na naman to... Mababawasan yung iniipon ko para mapalitan ang car...

But before I bring it a shop, I would like to ask for opinion from our experts and from those who might have experienced the same thing. Ang pinagtataka ko kasi, ok naman ang takbo ng car. Ok din ang acceleration. Hindi naman pumupugak ang makina. Yun nga lang, occasionally mausok lalo na pag paakyat. Then I also noticed na may tunog na parang kuliglig yung breather valve (correct me if i'm wrong... yun yung hose from the top of the engine going to the carb, katabi ng hose papunta sa air cleaner). Parang hissing sound. Can that be a factor?

TIA

Manley

[KBR]

Guys,

First I noticed na nasa kalahati na lang ang oil level (based on the dis stick). Kaka-change-oil lang last month. Then I found out na nagli-leak ang langis pataas hanggang sa pumasok na sa cylinder. Basa ng langis ang spark plugs ng tanggalin ko. With idle engine, tumitilamsik pataas ang langis pag binuksan yung refill cap. According to my uncle, oil pushing daw yun and the solution is overhaul.... Whew... Holdup na naman to... Mababawasan yung iniipon ko para mapalitan ang car...

But before I bring it a shop, I would like to ask for opinion from our experts and from those who might have experienced the same thing. Ang pinagtataka ko kasi, ok naman ang takbo ng car. Ok din ang acceleration. Hindi naman pumupugak ang makina. Yun nga lang, occasionally mausok lalo na pag paakyat. Then I also noticed na may tunog na parang kuliglig yung breather valve (correct me if i'm wrong... yun yung hose from the top of the engine going to the carb, katabi ng hose papunta sa air cleaner). Parang hissing sound. Can that be a factor?

TIA

Manley

hey bro, well I'm pretty sure na bilang na ang buhay ng makina mo! JK! hehehe. anywayz, based on your description of your problems, it could be caused of diff. things. its either from a worn Valve Seal or Valve Guides, to a worn Piston Ring (which is the worst thing that could ever happen). anywayz, how many miles does your car/engine have?? also, did you do a Comression Test??


aite, peace.

[eyshmechanic]

ngee! buti nga humatak pa he he! anyway what you can do is try mo muna top overhaul mas mura yon. pero pag tingangal yung cylinder head pa-check mo narin yung mga pistons kung may kalog na.

[KBR]

ngee! buti nga humatak pa he he!

pare, iba talaga ang TOYOTA!!


aite, peace.

[fourtheboys96]

try mo muna magpa compression test bago ka magpa-overhaul. baka naman may ibang dahilan yung wet spark plug mo like busted oil seals sa valve cover.

yung sa oil filler cap, normal na meron konting oil na tumilamsik basta wag lang sobrang lakas. pag malaks kasi ibig sabihin na sobrang lakas na nung blow by gasses.

kung talagang over haul na, pag isipan mo uli. pwede mo kasi yan palitan ng 4afe. from what i've read, bolt on siya sa ae92. not sure jan sa model ng kotse mo.

[manley]

To KBR, fortheboys, and eyshmechanic


Thanks for your replies... Actually last august nagpapalit na ako ng piston rings, cylinder head gasket, valve seals... But just recently, I got a "tip" from another car owner na minsan daw fake ang parts na binebenta dun sa binilhan ko dati (based on his experience). Kaya medyo nagdududa ako na baka fake yung mga nabili ko dati kaya sira agad after a few months.

San ba pwedeng magpa-compression test? Yung medyomalapit lang sa cainta....Medyo jurasic lang kasi yung mga gamit dun sa suking talyer ko.

Mileage ko pala is 127,000 +++

[glenngj]

nung nagpalit ba ng piston rings, cylinder head gasket, valves nagpa machine shop ka ba nun o baka naman mano mano na lang nilagay? nangyari na din sa corolla ko yan before dahil sa nagtitipid ako dinala ko lang sa kakilala kong mekaniko after ilang buwan yun na naman ang naging problema. try mo muna top overhaul pero pasilip mo na din yung mga pistons..

[KBR]

To KBR, fortheboys, and eyshmechanic


Thanks for your replies... Actually last august nagpapalit na ako ng piston rings, cylinder head gasket, valve seals... But just recently, I got a "tip" from another car owner na minsan daw fake ang parts na binebenta dun sa binilhan ko dati (based on his experience). Kaya medyo nagdududa ako na baka fake yung mga nabili ko dati kaya sira agad after a few months.

San ba pwedeng magpa-compression test? Yung medyomalapit lang sa cainta....Medyo jurasic lang kasi yung mga gamit dun sa suking talyer ko.

Mileage ko pala is 127,000 +++

lolz!! Jurrasic AMP!! hehehe

anywayz, 127,xxx miles... man, mababa pa yan ha! bakit ka nag pa overhaul kung medyo mababa pa ang milyahe??


aite, peace.

[manley]

KBR,

Thanks again.... Ang nangyari kasi dati, palyado ang makina then sobrang lakas sa gas. Ng patingnan ko, sabi loose compression daw. Pinakita naman sa akin yung mga tinanggal na piston rings talagang wornout na nga.


glenngj,

sabi kasi ng mekaniko hindi raw naman kelangan i-machine shop after mabuksan na nila. Although sinabihan nya ako bago nila sinimulang gawin na malamang kelangan i-machine shop. San ka nagpa-top overhaul? After that I assume naresolve na yung problem. May I ask na rin how much yung nagastos mo for that?

Thanks so much

Manley

[fourtheboys96]

paano naman nalaman ng mekaniko mo kung "loose compression" na nga kotse mo?

ndi sa lahat ng overhaul job kelangan ng machine shop job. if in good condition and within specs pa yung parts, pwede ndi i machine shop.

usually ang ginagawa sa machine shop ay yung cyclinder block especially pag may tama na (deep scores and scratches). yung cylinder head kung ndi na pantay yung surface. yung mga piston at connection rods kasi press machine ang pangkabit dun.

kung malaks sa gas, baka naman kulang lang sa tune up.

since last august ka lang pala nagpapalit ng piston ring, baka sa iba galing yang oil na napupunta sa spark plugs mo. check the valve cover.

[voltscastillo]

mahal naman pa overhaul...

try asking around for an overhaul kit for your car/engine muna... magcanvass ka. the kit should include piston rings, cylinder liners, gaskets, etc... iba ito dun sa top overhaul kit ha... gaskets lang mga yun.

given na yung magpa machine shop pag general overhaul. pag wala ngang liner, ginagawa nila oversize piston rings eh.

kung yung piesa ng canvass + labor + machine shop costs is over 25-30K, forget it... mag straight swap engine ha na lang. pick an engine thats compatible at galing sa surplus japan talaga, hindi yung mga katay dito.

marami kalokohan sa overhaul dre... wag ka paloko. if you want, you can go to reputable toyota tuner shops, tingin tingin ka around the board. if ayaw mo mag engine swap, go to them... ganun din naman singil, sureshot pa most of the time kasi may shop talaga sila at sanay na magbaklas ng mga toyota engines.

[glenngj]

original mileage ba talaga nya yan o nakalikot na? ang baba nga para magpa overhaul ka dati.. mas mataas pa yung mileage ko sayo compared sa 94 model yung sasakyan ko.. yung sa akin lang naman since na kinalikot yung sasakyan ko and overhaul talaga kaya kelangan ng machine shop para sigurado na walang sisingaw.. anyway nung nagpa-top overhaul ako mga ginastos ko is about 12k lahat na yun including labor,parts,machine shop. kung kelangan overhaul na yan at gagastos ka ng 30k-up, its better to change the engine na lang, canvass ka muna.. sa speedyfix try mo dalhin para pa estimate mo yung magagastos mo..

[manley]

thanks for all your inputs... grabe pala talaga... ang sakit sa bulsa pag nagkataon. Isang taon pa lang sa akin ang kotse ko. A little over 100K lang bili ko then 25-30K ang overhaul... Change engine na nga lang siguro kung talagang wala ng solution.

san kaya ang best source ng reliable na surplus engine sa ngayon? baka may pwede kayong ma-refer.

thanks.

[ten_corolla]

Dre, we have in common w/ our car.
I'm still looking for available engine, preffered engine is ST or Hi-Horse budget is aroun 20 to 26k.
Co-forumers baka meron sa inyong me alam na nagbebenta ng engine,.
Please kindly pm me.

[Cobalt Blue]

I never had an overhaul before. Our 1988 Nissan Sentra stayed with us for 18 years without overhaul and ang mileage niya when we sold it was 180k+ at hindi mausok matipid pa sa gas. Alaga lang sa change oil para hindi masira agad

[manley]

updated lang po re my problem...

pina-top-overhaul ko yung car. may nakita akong shop sa pasig na dating taga toyota yung may ari. kitang kita ko na talagang blown na yung head gasket. nakailang oveheat din kasi a day before dalhin ko dun sa shop.

so far, satisfied naman ako sa gawa. saka talagang ini-explain nung mekaniko yung mga nakikita nyang sira. then hindi taga yung singil... spent 9,500 lahat lahat na. ang laki ng diperensya ng takbo ngayon kumapara before (actually even better than how the car runs a year ago nung kabibili ko pa lang). i hope ayos na talaga... thanks sa lahat ng nagbigay ng inputs.

[mbeige]

Just FYI: The 4AFE engine has the cams right by the oil filler hole, talagang tatalsik yung oil when the engine is running due to the rotation of the inside parts that are close to the hole. I once forgot to return the oil cap on ours, napansin ko it did the same thing. Not all engines that spew oil out the oil filler require overhaul.

I think you learned your lesson here - try not to overheat it too often. Kahit matatag ang Toyota engines, no engine is indestructible.

[roninblade]

hey manley, can you post here (or just PM me) the contact number and address of the shop you went to.

[ejr]

Just FYI: The 4AFE engine has the cams right by the oil filler hole, talagang tatalsik yung oil when the engine is running due to the rotation of the inside parts that are close to the hole. I once forgot to return the oil cap on ours, napansin ko it did the same thing. Not all engines that spew oil out the oil filler require overhaul.

tama si sir mbeige.meron din akong GL.normal lang yung pagtalsik ng langis pag binuksan mo yung oil filler hole pag naandar ang makina.try mo silipin yung oil filler hole pag patay makina.makikita mo yung lamang loob nya.

[manley]

hey manley, can you post here (or just PM me) the contact number and address of the shop you went to.

roninblade... shop owner is jun pilapil - 0921-4295085. I'm not sure about the complete address. alam ko lang is that it's at #31 Azucena St. Kung anong barangay ang nakakasakop, di ko alam. But it's located near de Castro Ave in Pasig. Diretso lang ng Ortigas Extension then pag lagpas ng bridge over Manggahan floodway, first corner would be de Castro Ave (just before an Iglesia ni Cristo church). Turn right, then turn left at the next corner, then turn right at the next which is Azucena St.