Diesel owners that add 2T oil to fuel

[crazy_boy]

was able to buy Petron 2T for 100pesos/L bottle at my suking auto supply hehe

[Ry_Tower]

^ Bro CB, I advice against using Petron oils, wala kasi MSDS data mga yan, mahirap na. Baka sobrang low quality ng 2T nila. Shell or Caltex na lang, maliit lang naman difference for sure. hehe

Just a thought though.

[G01]

Just filled up my 4m41 Strada with its second full tank of Petron turbo diesel with Petron 2T oil today. No problems naman so far with the Petron 2T oil. Will further observe how my engine reacts to the second tank. Initial observation is the engine is a bit smoother. My Strada BTW has been fitted with thicker shims at the fuel pressure regulator and boost have been modified.

[12vdc]

Bros, any idea what JASO rating does the trimax belong? I find it cheaper and hopefully if i could check the right MSDS to determine the rating, i'd probably switch instead of using Activ..



BTW Castrol Activ MSDS:

Castrol Activ 2T meets JASO FC
SAE Viscosity Grade 20
KV *100 0C (cSt) 7.5
KV *400C (cSt) 43.0
Sulphated Ash % 1.7
FlashpointCOC0C 97
Density kg/ * 150C 0.874
Appearance Green
Flammability Class 3.1D
Fully miscible with all fuels at ratios up to 50:1 as specified by the equipment manufacturer
Contains VPI ( Vapour Phase Inhibitor ) to prevent corrosion particularly during long periods of engine inactivity.
Suitable for both oil injection and premix lubrication
Exceeds the requirements of JASO FC providing visibly reduced exhaust smoke emission
Reduces combustion chamber deposits and exhaust port fouling. Gives superior piston skirt cleanliness and reduces piston ring sticking.

[dvldoc]

To save you the back read I will just quote myself.

After further research it really does not make much difference on what JASO rating you use on non-synthetic oils. Here's why, the FC is low ash oil meaning it has a lower Zinc content (zinc when burt makes ash) which can cause deposits in 2 stroke engines. Here's why it's not applicably in the application were are using it for one is the compression ratio and combustion temps in a diesel engine and volume of air flow through the engine will push most the unburnt ash out through the exhaust and what is left out your exhaust and the oil will collect the rest.

Here's the other kicker, Diesel oil already has a very high zinc content and is getting burnt in your combustion chamber thanks to that handy EGR and the breather hose that recirculates air back into your intake, If you don't have a oil catch can your already getting oil vapor back into the combustion chambers. So there is almost zero difference if your using 2T that is not FC because if you have a functional EGR system on your diesel or have not added a oil catch can, your still burning zinc and making ash. No harm no foul.

Lastly the sheer act of burning diesel makes ash and soot, so it's a moot point, surprised my little brain did not wrap around this earlier

If your running Synthetic oil then your still burning those same particles via the same method, But it would make no scene to use synthetic. Use the Cheapest 2T you can find because the results will be about the same.

We suck down more oil via the EGR system and Crankcase vent then you will with a 200:1 ratio of 2T mixed in your fuel so it's basically a null and void issue.

[12vdc]

Thanks doc for the quick reply, i missed that part on my backreading..

2 more full tanks to go and i'm shifting to Trimax.. It cost only P120 w/c the Active is more than twice of that.

[mateomarco]

I saw a 76 brand of 2t sa mall...made in usa based sa label...jaso FB/API TC rating nya...180 per 1 quart...nakita ko green color yung 2t...Eto po properties nya... Greco Lubricants May nakapagtry na po ba nito? Thanks!

[Ry_Tower]

^ Looks like we have a winner for cheapest 2T FB rated oil!

Its made by a respectable company afterall. Greco Lubricants

Bros, any idea what JASO rating does the trimax belong? I find it cheaper and hopefully if i could check the right MSDS to determine the rating, i'd probably switch instead of using Activ..



BTW Castrol Activ MSDS:

Castrol Activ 2T meets JASO FC
SAE Viscosity Grade 20
KV *100 0C (cSt) 7.5
KV *400C (cSt) 43.0
Sulphated Ash % 1.7
FlashpointCOC0C 97
Density kg/ * 150C 0.874
Appearance Green
Flammability Class 3.1D
Fully miscible with all fuels at ratios up to 50:1 as specified by the equipment manufacturer
Contains VPI ( Vapour Phase Inhibitor ) to prevent corrosion particularly during long periods of engine inactivity.
Suitable for both oil injection and premix lubrication
Exceeds the requirements of JASO FC providing visibly reduced exhaust smoke emission
Reduces combustion chamber deposits and exhaust port fouling. Gives superior piston skirt cleanliness and reduces piston ring sticking.

Its FB rated. Used Activ also before but since FB is just as good as needed then I'm using FB rated 2T. Shell, Caltex and Trimax I have tried. Seems to me there is no difference really.

But the FC rated Activ from Castrol seem to be better in reducing early start-up smoke. It disappears faster IMO.

[sotel]

Bros, any idea what JASO rating does the trimax belong? I find it cheaper and hopefully if i could check the right MSDS to determine the rating, i'd probably switch instead of using Activ..



BTW Castrol Activ MSDS:

Castrol Activ 2T meets JASO FC
SAE Viscosity Grade 20
KV *100 0C (cSt) 7.5
KV *400C (cSt) 43.0
Sulphated Ash % 1.7
FlashpointCOC0C 97
Density kg/ * 150C 0.874
Appearance Green
Flammability Class 3.1D
Fully miscible with all fuels at ratios up to 50:1 as specified by the equipment manufacturer
Contains VPI ( Vapour Phase Inhibitor ) to prevent corrosion particularly during long periods of engine inactivity.
Suitable for both oil injection and premix lubrication
Exceeds the requirements of JASO FC providing visibly reduced exhaust smoke emission
Reduces combustion chamber deposits and exhaust port fouling. Gives superior piston skirt cleanliness and reduces piston ring sticking.

san mo nabili yan sir??

[crazy_boy]

san mo nabili yan sir??

you can find it most motorcycle accessory shops. they also have it in one of the stalls in cash and carry.

[Ry_Tower]

san mo nabili yan sir??

Castrol Trimax yan sir sinasabi niya AFAIK. Marami niyan sa mga motor shop at auto supply dapat. Should not be a problem finding one.

[sotel]

Castrol Trimax yan sir sinasabi niya AFAIK. Marami niyan sa mga motor shop at auto supply dapat. Should not be a problem finding one.

sir wala kc ako nakikitang ganyan d2 saamin :D

[sotel]

Bros, any idea what JASO rating does the trimax belong? I find it cheaper and hopefully if i could check the right MSDS to determine the rating, i'd probably switch instead of using Activ..



BTW Castrol Activ MSDS:

Castrol Activ 2T meets JASO FC
SAE Viscosity Grade 20
KV *100 0C (cSt) 7.5
KV *400C (cSt) 43.0
Sulphated Ash % 1.7

FlashpointCOC0C 97
Density kg/ * 150C 0.874
Appearance Green
Flammability Class 3.1D
Fully miscible with all fuels at ratios up to 50:1 as specified by the equipment manufacturer
Contains VPI ( Vapour Phase Inhibitor ) to prevent corrosion particularly during long periods of engine inactivity.
Suitable for both oil injection and premix lubrication
Exceeds the requirements of JASO FC providing visibly reduced exhaust smoke emission
Reduces combustion chamber deposits and exhaust port fouling. Gives superior piston skirt cleanliness and reduces piston ring sticking.

mas maganda ata gamitin ung nasa kanan

[Ry_Tower]

sir wala kc ako nakikitang ganyan d2 saamin :D

Yun lang. Stick to Shell or Caltex 2T na lang or if makakita ka nang mas mura.

[kompressor]

Shell's 2T is FB rated. P120/iter bili ko sa auto supply sa dona soledad, paranaque.

May nakita akong FC rated costing P160 pero 800ml lang siya. Will try it out minsan. Sa Motorkee ko nakita (dealer ng SYM motorcycles).

[Bandido_04]

may bad effect ba kung napasobra lagay ko ng 2t? sa trooper na 4jg2, less than 1/4 nalang nasa tank, 500ml nailagay ko

[Ry_Tower]

may bad effect ba kung napasobra lagay ko ng 2t? sa trooper na 4jg2, less than 1/4 nalang nasa tank, 500ml nailagay ko

Wala po sir.

[Bandido_04]

heww! ty sir, may topak kasi yung gas gauge, almost nasa full, so nilagyan ko mga 500ml, nung inistart ko na bumaba ung gauge to less than 1/4, malayo pa naman gas station samin

[MrQ5]

napansin ko lang parang nagka film ng lubricant na yung fuel system ng innova namen; kasi na stock ngayon ng more than one week parang pino agad ang andar unlike noong mga una pag di nagamit ng 1 linggo medyo rough sa una hanngang pumino na... observe ko muna kasi madalas mahiram dati yung ride namen baka di nilalagyan ng 2T kahit sabihin ko may 2T sa loob ng innova.

[Ry_Tower]

napansin ko lang parang nagka film ng lubricant na yung fuel system ng innova namen; kasi na stock ngayon ng more than one week parang pino agad ang andar unlike noong mga una pag di nagamit ng 1 linggo medyo rough sa una hanngang pumino na... observe ko muna kasi madalas mahiram dati yung ride namen baka di nilalagyan ng 2T kahit sabihin ko may 2T sa loob ng innova.

BT223 na rin ba oil filter na ginagamit mo?