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  1. Join Date
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    Good day po. Newbie here.
    We have engine po of toyota fortuner 2015 diesel. We are planning to buy older model po na gas engine at low price then salpak namin ung engine galing sa nasira na fortuner namin. Ok pa kasi ung engine ung body lang tlaga ang nasira.

    Magkanu po kaya aabutin ng gastos sa change engine kung sa sakali?

    Ok lang po kaya ung gas engine palitan ng diesel? Kung ndi po xa complicated?

    Ung fortuner po namin 4x4 na 3.0 diesel.
    Thanks in advance.

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    For peace of mind, sell your engine for scrap and just buy a used Diesel Fortuner.

    Mas mapapa-mahal ka pa sa conversion approach. Bukod sa gastos ng labor, kakain din ng oras mo at di pa 100% na maayos ang transplant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    For peace of mind, sell your engine for scrap and just buy a used Diesel Fortuner.

    Mas mapapa-mahal ka pa sa conversion approach. Bukod sa gastos ng labor, kakain din ng oras mo at di pa 100% na maayos ang transplant.
    i agree.
    get a diesel fort.
    sell your gas engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i agree.
    get a diesel fort.
    sell your gas engine.
    Doc, masarap din kasi magkalikot tapos gumana, success story na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    For peace of mind, sell your engine for scrap and just buy a used Diesel Fortuner.

    Mas mapapa-mahal ka pa sa conversion approach. Bukod sa gastos ng labor, kakain din ng oras mo at di pa 100% na maayos ang transplant.
    Ung nasira po na fortuner namin is ung diesel. Kaya po balak namin na bumili ng used na fortuner na ung gas engine kasi mas mura bilhin ung mga fortuner na 2nd hand pag gas engine. Tpos ung engine ng fortuner namin ipalit namin sana sa bibilhin namin na 2nd hand na fortuner(ung gas engine). Maganda pa kasi ung engine ng sasakyan namin 36k lng mileage niah kaya mejo nasasayangan kami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy07 View Post
    Ung nasira po na fortuner namin is ung diesel. Kaya po balak namin na bumili ng used na fortuner na ung gas engine kasi mas mura bilhin ung mga fortuner na 2nd hand pag gas engine. Tpos ung engine ng fortuner namin ipalit namin sana sa bibilhin namin na 2nd hand na fortuner(ung gas engine). Maganda pa kasi ung engine ng sasakyan namin 36k lng mileage niah kaya mejo nasasayangan kami.
    that's what we were warning you against, sir.
    you buy the gas fort, you spend time and effort on the transplant, and you are still not guaranteed of a "perfect fit".
    be mindful, that the diesel dashboard is not the same as the gas dashboard. i would bet, the ECU won't be the same, either.

    but if you buy the fort with diesel engine, it is already a perfect fit.
    you can sell the gas engine.
    wala pang sakit-ulo, pagod, and spent time.
    many folks do not know how to put a price on their time and effort.

    how much is the difference between a used diesel fort, and a used gas fort?
    my guess is, the proceeds from selling your gas engine, will pay for the difference, and wala pang sakit ulo and time and effort spent.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 20th, 2018 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    Doc, masarap din kasi magkalikot tapos gumana, success story na.
    Based on personal experience yung ganitong venture is a sure money pit.

    Paghanap pa lang ng shop that can guarantee a clean conversion like sa balak ni TS pahirapan na.

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    I'll add another reason NOT to do the transplant.... well, two reasons.

    1. You'll have to go through the motions to update the LTO registration of the recipient vehicle due to the engine change
    2. A huge chunk of the resale value of the recipient car goes down the drain. Nobody wants a converted vehicle... not when a stock Diesel variant is readily available on the market

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    ano bang nasira sa body ng diesel fort ninyo? hindi na ba kayang iparepair yung body? i think mas mura kung body repair plus repaint ang gagawin kesa sa bumili ka ng isa pang fort then transplant?

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    What happened to the original diesel engine? Is there really no chance of giving it a second life?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy07 View Post
    Good day po. Newbie here.
    We have engine po of toyota fortuner 2015 diesel. We are planning to buy older model po na gas engine at low price then salpak namin ung engine galing sa nasira na fortuner namin. Ok pa kasi ung engine ung body lang tlaga ang nasira.

    Magkanu po kaya aabutin ng gastos sa change engine kung sa sakali?

    Ok lang po kaya ung gas engine palitan ng diesel? Kung ndi po xa complicated?

    Ung fortuner po namin 4x4 na 3.0 diesel.
    Thanks in advance.
    Sir by any chance kayo ba yung nabagsakan ng boulder sa Kennon road doon sa kabilang thread?

    Same lang po sasabihin ko doon sa sabi ng iba. Ang daming pwedeng mangyaring kumplikasyon sa conversion. Tapos kung magawa man ng maayos, babaratin din yan ng husto pag ibebenta mo na. Kung may bibili.

    Pwede sana kung makahanap kayo ng same model (4x4, 3.0 diesel) na engine lang ang sira. Price ng transplant at cost nung kaha na lang ang konsiderasyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    What happened to the original diesel engine? Is there really no chance of giving it a second life?


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    as per ts;

    "Ok pa kasi ung engine ung body lang tlaga ang nasira."

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    Lol classic case ng nagbabasa ng mabuti.

    Its a good project if you like this kind of things. If it was me i will go with what you are intending. Mahilig kasi ako mag DIY sa kotse ko.

    If you are not so adept with cars or if you dont know a shop owner then i suggest to declare the car as a total loss and buy a used diesel fortuner instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    What happened to the original diesel engine? Is there really no chance of giving it a second life?


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    Wala na po talaga totaly wrecked na ung body wala na tlagang pag asa. Ung engine nalang talaga natitira na pwedeng mapakinabangan sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy07 View Post
    Wala na po talaga totaly wrecked na ung body wala na tlagang pag asa. Ung engine nalang talaga natitira na pwedeng mapakinabangan sir.
    Ito ba yung sa kennon road na fortuner? [emoji51]


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    I will probably put that 1KD FTV 3.0 D4D eng on a Prado 120 or to a Hilux LN106... as long as it has its ECU and all. Putting it in a gas-fed fort is a waste of time with lots of headache. I mean its not probably bolt on. Kung talagang gusto mo, Baka pwede pa ung 4x2 2.5 Fort ang recipient then change its front end with the 4WD to make it work its 4x4...
    but the best route pa rin is to sell that engine then buy a 3.0 Fort 4x4. No issues

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    Actually... Possible yung gusto gawin ni Jeffy07...

    Kaya lang... For sure mawawalanbna ng resale value yung converted Fortuner mo...

    2nd, mas mabigat at malaki yung diesel engine, alangan ako sa front suspension.

    3. Electrical... May heater and diesel which is not available sa ignition ng gas version... Lalagyan mo ng bypass switch sa dashboard?

    If the car is 15-20 years old, I personally will experiment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy07 View Post
    Wala na po talaga totaly wrecked na ung body wala na tlagang pag asa. Ung engine nalang talaga natitira na pwedeng mapakinabangan sir.
    as recommended by others,
    buy a pre-owned diesel fort. or a cheaper innova.
    pera lang ang kelangan. walang kapagod-pagod.
    sell whatever is sell-able from your old ride's front end. olx it for free. mabebenta rin yan. even scrap metal has some value, however small.
    good luck, po.

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    Putting that 3.0 D4-D engine on a Prado seems a good idea. What they said is true. The suspension of a gas and diesel fort maybe different. Since diesel engines are significantly heavier than their gas counterpart.


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