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    tanong po. me 2007 1.3L na Avanza.

    usual city driving lang po.
    nong last week, nag punta kmi meycauayan, parang ok naman takbo kahit mga 90kph.

    nitong weekend, pumunta kami pansol calamba. napansin ko pag mag 80kph na takbo ko parang kinakapos. tapos pag paakyat, dapat mga 60kph lang tabko ko.

    ano kaya problem? kakatapos lang ng 70km PMS ko sa toyota (abt 3 weeks ago) and wala naman sila nakita. bago palit ang plugs pero yong air filter di pa pinalitan.

    help naman po

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    Ilan sakay mo nung una at nung huli na byahe? Malaking bagay ang dami/bigat sa acceleration.

    Pwede mo palitan air filter mo kung yun lang di napalitan

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong po. me 2007 1.3L na Avanza.

    usual city driving lang po.
    nong last week, nag punta kmi meycauayan, parang ok naman takbo kahit mga 90kph.

    nitong weekend, pumunta kami pansol calamba. napansin ko pag mag 80kph na takbo ko parang kinakapos. tapos pag paakyat, dapat mga 60kph lang tabko ko.

    ano kaya problem? kakatapos lang ng 70km PMS ko sa toyota (abt 3 weeks ago) and wala naman sila nakita. bago palit ang plugs pero yong air filter di pa pinalitan.

    help naman po
    Nag PMS ang unit mo, pero di pinalitan ang Air Filter. Try running your vehicle temporarily without that old Air Filter. And observe, if it improves your accelaration and speed. Kung hindi, install it back the filter. Nagpalit kamo ikaw ng new set ng spark plug. Nag set ba sila ng timing? Kung hindi, ipa-timing mo. Naka tono kasi ang timing sa dati mo sparkplug, malamang hindi pa sa bago sparkplug. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong po. me 2007 1.3L na Avanza.

    usual city driving lang po.
    nong last week, nag punta kmi meycauayan, parang ok naman takbo kahit mga 90kph.

    nitong weekend, pumunta kami pansol calamba. napansin ko pag mag 80kph na takbo ko parang kinakapos. tapos pag paakyat, dapat mga 60kph lang tabko ko.

    ano kaya problem? kakatapos lang ng 70km PMS ko sa toyota (abt 3 weeks ago) and wala naman sila nakita. bago palit ang plugs pero yong air filter di pa pinalitan.

    help naman po
    Nagpa 70km PMS ka na. Usually sa ganyan odometer readings, palit or change transmission oil na rin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong po. me 2007 1.3L na Avanza.

    usual city driving lang po.
    nong last week, nag punta kmi meycauayan, parang ok naman takbo kahit mga 90kph.

    nitong weekend, pumunta kami pansol calamba. napansin ko pag mag 80kph na takbo ko parang kinakapos. tapos pag paakyat, dapat mga 60kph lang tabko ko.

    ano kaya problem? kakatapos lang ng 70km PMS ko sa toyota (abt 3 weeks ago) and wala naman sila nakita. bago palit ang plugs pero yong air filter di pa pinalitan.

    help naman po
    MT ba ito sir? if it is, pakiramdaman mo, pwedeng nagsisimula ng dumudulas ang clutch.
    if AT, paflush mo ATF, then fill in fresh batch.

    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    Nag PMS ang unit mo, pero di pinalitan ang Air Filter. Try running your vehicle temporarily without that old Air Filter. And observe, if it improves your accelaration and speed. Kung hindi, install it back the filter. Nagpalit kamo ikaw ng new set ng spark plug. Nag set ba sila ng timing? Kung hindi, ipa-timing mo. Naka tono kasi ang timing sa dati mo sparkplug, malamang hindi pa sa bago sparkplug. Just my opinion.

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    distributor-less engines doesn't need to be manually adjusted, wala ka ng gagalawing distrubutor for the timing.
    the ecu will automatically adjust by itself.

    the least TS can do is, reset the ecu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7138 View Post
    MT ba ito sir? if it is, pakiramdaman mo, pwedeng nagsisimula ng dumudulas ang clutch.
    if AT, paflush mo ATF, then fill in fresh batch.



    distributor-less engines doesn't need to be manually adjusted, wala ka ng gagalawing distrubutor for the timing.
    the ecu will automatically adjust by itself.

    the least TS can do is, reset the ecu.
    can you please elaborate, kung walang distributor, san kukuha ng spark mga sparkplugs? o mali lang intindi ko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    can you please elaborate, kung walang distributor, san kukuha ng spark mga sparkplugs? o mali lang intindi ko?

    yan ung mga latest model na wala kana nakikitang mga hightension wire na papuntang distributor at spark plug.na pinipihit kapag tinutukan ng timing gun.

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    Almost 10yrs hehehe nice. Napalitan na ang fuel filter?

    When its a power issue it is normally air or fuel or the ignition.

    Another possibility is the throttle body. It probably needs cleaning. 350 pesos in some shops. Pwede rin pa check ang ecu also.

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    City driving most of the time?

    Carbon build-up lang. Italian tune-up kailangan.

    Drive it like you stole it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    can you please elaborate, kung walang distributor, san kukuha ng spark mga sparkplugs? o mali lang intindi ko?
    those engines that are already using coil packs, yun na yung pinaka ignition coil nya,
    per spark plug na agad, wala ng tatakbuhing high tension wire,
    ecu na ang gumagawa ng distribution as to which spark plug will fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    City driving most of the time?

    Carbon build-up lang. Italian tune-up kailangan.

    Drive it like you stole it.
    yup, italian tune up. fill up with the best caltex with techron available and run it fast. if it is a manual tranny run it at 4th gear max only (don't shift to 5th) at the fastest speed you can go without getting a ticket. pag pasok pa lang sa expressway walang petik-petik na merge. Hataw agad, floor the accelerator. kaya binahayan ng carbon yang makina ng kotse mo kasi puro city driving ka. at susmaryosep, kung mabilis na sa iyo ang 90kph e garantisado barado na makina mo. parang tao din yan, pag walang exercise kinakapos ng hininga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7138 View Post
    MT ba ito sir? if it is, pakiramdaman mo, pwedeng nagsisimula ng dumudulas ang clutch.
    if AT, paflush mo ATF, then fill in fresh batch.



    distributor-less engines doesn't need to be manually adjusted, wala ka ng gagalawing distrubutor for the timing.
    the ecu will automatically adjust by itself.

    the least TS can do is, reset the ecu.
    Manual po. So clutch na ba yon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    Manual po. So clutch na ba yon?
    clutch if too high RPM on high gears (best basis is the direct drive gear ratio of 1:1 which is the 4th gear on a standard 5 speed MT) yet speed is slow or wont accelerate... aka slipping...

    observe your RPMs again and provide feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    yup, italian tune up. fill up with the best caltex with techron available and run it fast. if it is a manual tranny run it at 4th gear max only (don't shift to 5th) at the fastest speed you can go without getting a ticket. pag pasok pa lang sa expressway walang petik-petik na merge. Hataw agad, floor the accelerator. kaya binahayan ng carbon yang makina ng kotse mo kasi puro city driving ka. at susmaryosep, kung mabilis na sa iyo ang 90kph e garantisado barado na makina mo. parang tao din yan, pag walang exercise kinakapos ng hininga.
    Hhmmm akala ko bka bad gasoline lang. Silver lagi ko gamit. Since me long drive, nag gold ako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7138 View Post
    MT ba ito sir? if it is, pakiramdaman mo, pwedeng nagsisimula ng dumudulas ang clutch.
    if AT, paflush mo ATF, then fill in fresh batch.



    distributor-less engines doesn't need to be manually adjusted, wala ka ng gagalawing distrubutor for the timing.
    the ecu will automatically adjust by itself.

    the least TS can do is, reset the ecu.
    How do i restart the Ecu? Yon ba yong disconnect battery , wait , thwn kabit ulit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    clutch if too high RPM on high gears (best basis is the direct drive gear ratio of 1:1 which is the 4th gear on a standard 5 speed MT) yet speed is slow or wont accelerate... aka slipping...

    observe your RPMs again and provide feedback
    Di ko alm pano describe e. Parang pag nasa 5th gear na ako , tapos hahataw na e parang nasasamid

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    can you please elaborate, kung walang distributor, san kukuha ng spark mga sparkplugs? o mali lang intindi ko?
    Sir,nka individual coil na kse.kya wala ng hi tension wire.

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    too early for the clutch to go....usually higher than 150k or even 200k kms bago palit clutch lalu na kung city driving lang. unless clutch rider ka.

    saglit lang, papano mo icoconnect yung ignition coil pack to the spark plug? di bat high tension wire pa rin iyon.

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    Napalitan ba fuel filter? Palinis mo rin gas tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    too early for the clutch to go....usually higher than 150k or even 200k kms bago palit clutch lalu na kung city driving lang. unless clutch rider ka.

    saglit lang, papano mo icoconnect yung ignition coil pack to the spark plug? di bat high tension wire pa rin iyon.




    what they are talking about is COP(coil on plug). this system has an ignition coil per cylinder and it sits directly on top of the spark plug.
    the other ignition systems:

    distributor type- the oldest and the most commonly used up until the early 2000s

    wasted spark system- used on even number cylinder engines, the ignition coil fires two cylinders at the same time(piston mates), one on the event cylinder and the other on the exhaust cylinder
    1. with one spark plug wire on the piston mate and the other spark plug directly under the coil
    http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/atta...resdefault.jpg

    2. with spark plug wires on both piston mates
    http://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thir...085b119a4d.gif


    coil on plug- one ignition coil per cylinder
    1. single strike system- traditional one firing line
    http://www.autoditex.com/Knowledge-b...ge002_0008.jpg

    2. multi strike- three to five firing lines
    http://dtec.net.au/Multi%20Spark%20I...s/image007.gif
    Last edited by jick.cejoco; June 3rd, 2016 at 10:33 AM.

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