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    May nakita akong Car Battery na SF Sonic. Tanong lang kung 75 AH or 95 AH Car battery ang kukunin ko for Montero and for Grandia? Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    May nakita akong Car Battery na SF Sonic. Tanong lang kung 75 AH or 95 AH Car battery ang kukunin ko for Montero and for Grandia? Thank you!
    i would consult the owner's manual and see what it recommends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    May nakita akong Car Battery na SF Sonic. Tanong lang kung 75 AH or 95 AH Car battery ang kukunin ko for Montero and for Grandia? Thank you!
    Higher AH would be preferred, especially for high displacement diesels. Your alternator will thank you for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Higher AH would be preferred, especially for high displacement diesels. Your alternator will thank you for it!

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    Sa Motolite Enduro 3SM ba, ano ang AH Capacity niya? Yun na lang siguro ang susundin ko

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    Ahh ayun 70 AH lang pala ang Enduro 3SM, so 75 AH SF Sonic would suffice. Mas mura kasi ang 75 AH Sonic sa 95 AH Sonic ng mga 1,000 pesos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Sa Motolite Enduro 3SM ba, ano ang AH Capacity niya? Yun na lang siguro ang susundin ko
    According to tirecenter.com.ph/motolite.htm Enduro 3SMF is 70AH. 75AH for Gold, and 80AH for Excel.

    I swear by Amaron Hi Life 115D31L (3SM) though. 90AH. Very satisfactory performance in our turbo diesels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Higher AH would be preferred, especially for high displacement diesels. Your alternator will thank you for it!

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    Sabi daw kapag higher ang AH, it will take the alternator longer to charge your battery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Ahh ayun 70 AH lang pala ang Enduro 3SM, so 75 AH SF Sonic would suffice. Mas mura kasi ang 75 AH Sonic sa 95 AH Sonic ng mga 1,000 pesos
    Ah laki din pala price difference. IIRC, I have SF Sonic 105D31L on my Santa Fe. Came from the same shop that sold me Amarons. So far so good 18 months down the line.

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    In layman's terms, ano ang pinagkaiba ng RC sa AH when it comes to importance to the vehicle?

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    IIRC, reserve capacity is number of minutes the battery can last without alternator charging before conking out, and ampere hour is the total energy output the battery is capable of discharging. Electrical guys please correct me if I'm wrong. [emoji28]

    In my experience, 3SM with higher AH rating tend to enable faster, more "confident" cranks on our diesels. Like the Motolite Gold vs Amaron Hi Life on a 3.0L engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    IIRC, reserve capacity is number of minutes the battery can last without alternator charging before conking out, and ampere hour is the total energy output the battery is capable of discharging. Electrical guys please correct me if I'm wrong. [emoji28]

    In my experience, 3SM with higher AH rating tend to enable faster, more "confident" cranks on our diesels. Like the Motolite Gold vs Amaron Hi Life on a 3.0L engine.

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    oic, thank you GTi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    In layman's terms, ano ang pinagkaiba ng RC sa AH when it comes to importance to the vehicle?
    In layman's term, RC is the number of minutes you can drive your vehicle while drawing 25A from the battery with a faulty charging system.

    Ah and RC are related. You can derive the Ah of a battery from the RC and vice versa.

    Technically speaking, RC is the number of minutes a 12V battery can discharge at 25 Amps before dropping down to 10.5V. The 25A value is used as a reference for the average car electrical system's consumption when the charging system is faulty. If a battery states it has an RC of 160, it can theoretically power the vehicle for 160 minutes before the voltage drops to 10.5V. Of course, mileage (and time) will vary depending on the actual current being drawn.

    Ah is the amount of current a fully-charged battery can provide over a specific period of time (usually 20Hrs.) before the battery voltage drops down to 10.5V.

    Either units pertains to the battery capacity. Like Km/L and L/100Km pertains to fuel economy, just denoted differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    According to tirecenter.com.ph/motolite.htm Enduro 3SMF is 70AH. 75AH for Gold, and 80AH for Excel.

    I swear by Amaron Hi Life 115D31L (3SM) though. 90AH. Very satisfactory performance in our turbo diesels.

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    Magkano ang bili mo bro sa Amaron HiLife- 90AH?

    Same size as the Motolite 3SM?

    TIA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Magkano ang bili mo bro sa Amaron HiLife- 90AH?

    Same size as the Motolite 3SM?

    TIA.

    Yes, 3SM din.

    The last Amaron Hi Life I bought was last November, 2018. Got it for P6200 - P300 for the old battery. Got it from Jawe in Banawe, near Orthopedic Center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Yes, 3SM din.

    The last Amaron Hi Life I bought was last November, 2018. Got it for P6200 - P300 for the old battery. Got it from Jawe in Banawe, near Orthopedic Center.

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    Good deal.

    Considering I got Motolite Gold 3SM for 700 pesos more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    In layman's term, RC is the number of minutes you can drive your vehicle while drawing 25A from the battery with a faulty charging system.

    Ah and RC are related. You can derive the Ah of a battery from the RC and vice versa.

    Technically speaking, RC is the number of minutes a 12V battery can discharge at 25 Amps before dropping down to 10.5V. The 25A value is used as a reference for the average car electrical system's consumption when the charging system is faulty. If a battery states it has an RC of 160, it can theoretically power the vehicle for 160 minutes before the voltage drops to 10.5V. Of course, mileage (and time) will vary depending on the actual current being drawn.

    Ah is the amount of current a fully-charged battery can provide over a specific period of time (usually 20Hrs.) before the battery voltage drops down to 10.5V.

    Either units pertains to the battery capacity. Like Km/L and L/100Km pertains to fuel economy, just denoted differently.

    Nice, Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Technically speaking, RC is the number of minutes a 12V battery can discharge at 25 Amps before dropping down to 10.5V. The 25A value is used as a reference for the average car electrical system's consumption when the charging system is faulty. If a battery states it has an RC of 160, it can theoretically power the vehicle for 160 minutes before the voltage drops to 10.5V.

    Ah is the amount of current a fully-charged battery can provide over a specific period of time (usually 20Hrs.) before the battery voltage drops down to 10.5V.

    Tanong lang about the 10.5V. Yan bang 10.5V ang boundary line kapag mamatay na ang vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Tanong lang about the 10.5V. Yan bang 10.5V ang boundary line kapag mamatay na ang vehicle?
    I think it's generally considered that if the voltage goes below 10.5V, irreversible damage will have already occurred to the battery cells/plates. Consider that a normal flooded 12V car battery is considered empty when it's open circuit voltage gets down to 11.89V.

    State of Charge Voltage
    100% 12.65
    75% 12.45V
    50% 12.24V
    25% 12.06
    0% 11.89

    Source: Measuring State-of-charge - Battery University

    Deep-cycle batteries are calibrated differently and 10.5V is considered 0% State of Charge.
    Last edited by oj88; February 13th, 2019 at 12:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Sabi daw kapag higher ang AH, it will take the alternator longer to charge your battery?
    mas OK mataas capacity, wala naman pakialam alternator sa size ng battery mo. charging lang gagawin nya, in excess of you car's eletrical usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonleon View Post
    Good deal.

    Considering I got Motolite Gold 3SM for 700 pesos more.

    I got my Motolite 3SM a few days ago at P6K after trade-in; plus a free gallon of engine/radiator coolant- i don't recognize the brand, of which I have "no use"...

    Yup, the Amaron is indeed a good deal.

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