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    #1
    Being 1.6-liter engines, do these have the same maximum attainable power when modified?

    In their construction, how does the 4A-GE 20V differ from the 4A-FE such that it produces around 50 hp more.

    Lastly, in improving performance, is it really better to swap to the stronger engine rather than continuous modification of the standard?

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    The 4AGE has a wider angled cams, that alone makes the G model intrinsically more powerful than the F model.

    For me its better to just change the whole engine. Iba pa rin ang reliability stock. I mean, rather than going through all the mods with the F engine.

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    No, I plan pa rin to modify the 4A-GE in case I will have it swapped.

    Where I'm getting at here is that will the maximum attainable power of both engines be the same, or will the 4A-GE still be stronger.

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    4AGE is still stronger.

    IF you do plan to do forced induction work, you might want to check out the 4AGZE (supercharged) version.

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    #5
    4age mas malakas.. get the black top.. tulad nitoo.. all motor na yan...!!! ÜÜ ***y nung makina noh..hehe

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    Grabe kamahal yung blacktop pag manual. Pero kung sa kalye lang natin ok na kahit stock. Kung plano mo mag-heavy mods lalo na for race, sa regular 16V ka na lang. Marami pang parts and you can easily surpass the blacktop's 160/165hp. I think may nag mod ng redtop over 200hp na.

    Dami sa www.club4ag.com na info.

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    get the 4age. you can go turbo with the readily available bolt on turbochargers.

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    curious, which is better to turbocharge for both more HP & reliability?

    4AGE 16v
    4AGE 20v silver
    4AGZE (piggy back turbo or remove supercharger and add big turbo)

    (di pwede blacktop, mahal na kasi eh)

    Just curious lang ako...

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    Question ko rin bakit mas marami ang nagsasabi na mas maganda daw ang 4AGZE na engine kaysa sa 4AGE?

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    4AGE 16v 128hp/ 4AGE 20v VVT 160++hp/
    4AGZE supercharge 140++hp ..>>

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    4AGZE is better (daw) because the supercharger provides more power at a lower RPM. So you will get faster acceleration from a standing start than with a 4AGE 20v even if the 20v has more top-end HP.

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    ang 4agze pwedeng i-mod para kabitan ng turbocharger...visit 4age.net for details. ciao!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bagitz
    ang 4agze pwedeng i-mod para kabitan ng turbocharger...visit 4age.net for details. ciao!!

    well, given that the 4agze is a supercharged engine from the factory,...

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    Sirs;
    Marami na rin akong natignan na nagbebenta ng Blacktop and other Toyota racing engines. I'm still looking for the cheapest price.Can you guys help me?Where can i find it? More power!

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    #15
    makikisali na rin ako, alin yung 4age hi-horse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearspeed View Post
    Question ko rin bakit mas marami ang nagsasabi na mas maganda daw ang 4AGZE na engine kaysa sa 4AGE?
    because the stock internals of GZ can tolerate high boost.

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    #17
    why not just turbocharge the 4afe?

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    baka mas mahal pa ang custom turbo sa 4afe,if they do it properly.

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    Ilang ba hp ang 4AGE black top at 4AGE silver top?
    Ang alam ko low horse at high horse yung 16v na 4AGE low horse yun ang silver top high horse.Tama ba?
    Pwede kaya 4AGE black top tapos ang head ay silver top or vice versa?

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    #20
    more hp potential out of a turbo 4afe vs a NA 20 valve.

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