not battery or alternator daw, starter problem kaya?

[mark1985]

Hi po mga katsikot!

Just want to seek your advice. My car is a 95 galant VR4 (not the AWD). Problem is there are times when i start the car, it just clicks and doesn't crank. I try it a couple more times and it still wont do it the trick. Then after i leave it for a couple of minutes, I try again and then it will crank and start up finally.

I brought this to a mechanic a week ago and have my battery and alternator checked. Sabi nila ok naman daw at walang palya parehas dahil may maganda ba ang kuryenteng dumadaloy (tama ba yung term ko?hehe).

Kaso later on I still experience the problem. So I'm wondering if it's my starter that's giving up on me.

And also may karga naman sya because the gauges all light up when i turn the key. Pati nga mga ilaw and all gumagana.

i read the "index of common car problems thread" here and it seems that the starter thing is one of the possible problems.

Hope you can shed some light before i bring it to a mechanic. It's my first car and i just got it 2 weeks ago, bought it second hand.

[chaitotek]

is this cold starting problem ? ( yung galing sa matagal na di nagamit, yung tipong tuwing umaga at nakapark magdamag?)

or

is this hot starting problem ( means yung pinatay makina kasi nagpa-gas lang, or may binili lang sa tindahan? or nag-withdraw lang sandali sa atm, pinatay makina tapos start na ulit? )\

[mark1985]

Actually for both scenarios sya nangyayari.

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[zacks_888]

I had this problem before. At times ayaw din mag start ng oto ko just a click from the starter. Nag pa check ako ng battery and alternator. Ok nmn daw ang battery and alternator. Nag pa check ako sa isang shop sbi starter problem and they offered na overhaul. Pero I went to Rey's, ang ginawa nila is naglagay ng relay sa starter. Ever since ok na sya. Sbi nila is mahina ang pasok ng kuryente kc luma na daw oto. They tried to bypass the starter directly sa battery para test and ok nman daw. Instead of re wiring dinagdagan nalang nila ng relay.

[mark1985]

Ah nice. So pacheck ko muna ung starter and have it tested i guess. Any chance na ung solenoid ung problem?



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[zacks_888]

If I remember sbi ng shop na nag offer ng overhaul is ung carbon o magnet ata is upod na. But after ko sa Rey's ok na. Hindi na sya nag playa kahit once. Check mo rin pla ung battery terminal mo bka maluwag lang din

[mark1985]

I'll keep this in mind bro. Thanks! Diko pa nattry si rey's eto ba ung sa cubao? Magkano inabot sayo?

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[zacks_888]

I'll keep this in mind bro. Thanks! Diko pa nattry si rey's eto ba ung sa cubao? Magkano inabot sayo?

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Sa Rey's marikina ako. 650 petot ung relay kasama kabit.

[mark1985]

Nako layo hehehe 650 not bad!

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[jodski]

High possibility of a starter problem lang

Palinis mo lang and they need replace the carbon kapag malipis na... that part alone will not go beyond 150 pesos to replace.

You may want to opt to replace or overhaul the solenoid as well para isang baklasan na lang. Usually labor for that starts at 400 depends kung saan ka nagpagawa

[[archie]]

I agree na relay lang yan.

[JC-Tsikot]

My guess is battery terminal maluwag lang or madumi na ung contacts.. try mo linisin ng liha hanggang lumabas ung metal part or palit ka ng mas masikip ng clamp sa battery

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[mark1985]

Thanks for the reply guys. Napakahelpful! So first siguro is i get my starter checked, carbon replaced and solenoid cleaned. Then i go for a relay din siguro.

Baka kay jemson sa banawe ko sya dalhin over the weekend.

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[chaitotek]

Thanks for the reply guys. Napakahelpful! So first siguro is i get my starter checked, carbon replaced and solenoid cleaned. Then i go for a relay din siguro.

Baka kay jemson sa banawe ko sya dalhin over the weekend.

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dont waste your time. relay lang yan...as madali gawin ang relay...pag di umubra relay, tsaka ka na magpa-overhaul ng starter.

[dr. d]

i certainly hope it's just the relay.
but if it isn't, then you still have the starter brushes and the solenoid to reckon with.
btw, solenoids are replaced. "cleaning" them (whatever that means, because solenoids are sealed units) just isn't cost-effective.

i had a problem just like yours in my lancer 2003. it was the solenoid.

[mark1985]

New development guys! I found out that to get the car crank from click, i have to turn the key a little harder para sumagad pa ng konti, only then will it crank... although with a slight delay (around 2 secs).

It happened when i closed the engine para magpa gas sa petron. Then hindi na sha nagstart nanaman. Until i tried turning it harder.

Hmmm... whats ur take on this guys?

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[mark1985]

Thanks for the advice dr. D.

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[jaypee10]

lagyan mo ng grounding kit maka tulong din yan..
or palagyan mo ng isa pang relay parang direct na sa battery supply ng starter ..
check mo ung ground ng battery mo...

[dr. d]

New development guys! I found out that to get the car crank from click, i have to turn the key a little harder para sumagad pa ng konti, only then will it crank... although with a slight delay (around 2 secs).

It happened when i closed the engine para magpa gas sa petron. Then hindi na sha nagstart nanaman. Until i tried turning it harder.

Hmmm... whats ur take on this guys?

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seems to me, one day your little trick won't work as the switch's electrical contacts finally got worn down good..
better have it fixed while you can still start it..

[mark1985]

True. Brought it to a mechanic para macheck. Solenoid and carbon (something) daw ung cause. He suggested to have them replaced. I guess nasa starter itself ung problema since due to the starter contact, tama ba?

Correct me if im wrong pero kung papalagay ako ng relay it makes the starter hitting the contact point irrelevant, ganun ba yun?

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