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    hehe, sorry may tanong po ulit ako mga sirs. ay sorry, mga tanong pala.. hehee

    how can i increase horsepower of a honda city type z 2002? where do i start? tska mga magkano kay budget dun? and san kaya may maganda shop kung sakasakali ? nagsstart pa lang kc ko abt cars, wala pa talaga masyado alam to be honest.

    thanks ins advance ulit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    hehe, sorry may tanong po ulit ako mga sirs. ay sorry, mga tanong pala.. hehee

    how can i increase horsepower of a honda city type z 2002? where do i start? tska mga magkano kay budget dun? and san kaya may maganda shop kung sakasakali ? nagsstart pa lang kc ko abt cars, wala pa talaga masyado alam to be honest.

    thanks ins advance ulit...
    usually ... you start with high tension wires and some good kinds or spark plugs ...

    k&n filters which will give you the added wind power ...

    and i guess i good motor oil synthetic or a duralube additive

    budget for this around 10k .....

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    thanks po sir,

    since nasimulan ko na, hehe sasagarin ko na, may alam po ba kau na auto shop na hindi naman ako tatagain? and naghanap na rin ako ng k and n air filter, hirap maghanap para sa type z, tska mga ilang horsepower kaya madadagdag?

    thanks ulit ng madami...

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    what type of filter are you referring? the Drop ins? if you don't have the money to burn, go for simota first, it's way cheaper.

    An upgrade of the headers will also add some hp to your engine.

    For shops, try going for shops in evangelista or banawe. There are lots of surplus or 2nd hand you might wanna try first.

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    thanks for the input mga bossing... ill try sa banawe...


    rilly appreciate it..

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    turbocharger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    thanks po sir,

    since nasimulan ko na, hehe sasagarin ko na, may alam po ba kau na auto shop na hindi naman ako tatagain? and naghanap na rin ako ng k and n air filter, hirap maghanap para sa type z, tska mga ilang horsepower kaya madadagdag?

    thanks ulit ng madami...
    call me at the store ... i can refer you to a k&n supplier pero got to warn you ... mahal yan ...

    if you like simota is a good replacements ... maraming taiwan around 500 - 700 + yung filter and pag kasama extension i think about 2000 - 3000 + more or less

    if you have money to burn try looking for ichiban motor parts ... this shop will try to hook you up if you wanna change engine ... pero not sure if has any honda engines ... usually toyota

    pero in banawe there are lots of shops try looking there na lang ...

    BANAWE AUTO SUPPLY
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    Simple... exhaust plus full cat tubing.... equals fifty to seventy horses and your engine will breathe better cause of more air coming in.. but more in fuel consuption

    speed is expensive

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    thanks mga tol... appreciate it...

    honga lam ko mahal talaga k and n filters, i ll settle for simota muna. hehehe. low budget tau ngaun. but if im gonna go turbo, ano pb dapat i mod to make the turbo compatible with the system? sayang naman kc ung makina kung papalitan, bgo pa. hehehe. tska mas makakamura. cguro ngaun kht mga 30 - 40 hp increase ok muna. ung turbo sa xmas na, pag may bonus na! hahaha. gs2 ko nga rin sna ung catback system exhaust d ko lang alama magkano, tska kung compatible naman cya sa engine.

    hirap talaga ng walang alam...

    thanks ulit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny357 View Post
    Simple... exhaust plus full cat tubing.... equals fifty to seventy horses and your engine will breathe better cause of more air coming in.. but more in fuel consuption

    speed is expensive

    Exhaust mods wont give u 50-70hp increase.

    At most, intake and exhaust mods will only give u a 5-10hp increase.

    U can only get 50-70hp by forced induction. Turbo, supercharge, or N2O injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    hehe, sorry may tanong po ulit ako mga sirs. ay sorry, mga tanong pala.. hehee

    how can i increase horsepower of a honda city type z 2002? where do i start? tska mga magkano kay budget dun? and san kaya may maganda shop kung sakasakali ? nagsstart pa lang kc ko abt cars, wala pa talaga masyado alam to be honest.

    thanks ins advance ulit...
    sir start ka muna sa oil, yun maganda then put an oil additve, dapat madulas yun oil mo para less ang friction to produce more horsepower. after nun -modify mo na engine mo.

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    You don't need to add an additive... it's a needless expense. Buy a good synthetic oil and leave it as is.

    Synthetic oils already have additive blends mixed in... if you're adding another additive on top of that, the results can be a little unpredictable.

    And mineral + additive is still not as good as a good synthetic. Buy a synthetic with a good base stock, and leave it as is. A good synthetic will resist wear and breaking down over time than a poor oil bolstered with additives... additives will break down over time, anyway.

    You don't need high tension wires unless your old ones are already cracked or have high resistance. Unless you're making much more power than stock, OEM replacements (i.e.: Honda branded) will do.

    For the proper plugs for your ride, review Honda forums and see what the performance pros recommend for the D15. I'll bet they will all swear by the stock NGKs.

    As for airfilters, best combo is a Simota tube and a K&N cone filter. The K&N is expensive, but it's much better, and worth the money.

    But these are all "efficiency" mods... the sum total of which will probably only be about 5-6 hp. For more power, it's either turbo, engine swap or exhaust work. Exhaust work for the City should cost 30,000 or less, total, for a good exhaust. Turbo? Maybe 80,000. Engine swap? About 100,000 pesos will get you a Honda B16A engine with 170 hp... about the same as you would get with a turbo (or a little more) and it's more reliable.

    Set aside money for good performance tires and brake pads... you'll need them if you're going for power.

    Hey, speed isn't cheap.
    Last edited by niky; October 12th, 2007 at 06:28 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    hehe, sorry may tanong po ulit ako mga sirs. ay sorry, mga tanong pala.. hehee

    how can i increase horsepower of a honda city type z 2002? where do i start? tska mga magkano kay budget dun? and san kaya may maganda shop kung sakasakali ? nagsstart pa lang kc ko abt cars, wala pa talaga masyado alam to be honest.

    thanks ins advance ulit...
    What kind of Horsepower are we talking here?

    A Horsepower gain from flywheel or Horsepower and Torque at the wheels.

    A horsepower from flywheel does not make any Horsepower, but it shows up a horsepower gain. Like vroom, vroom, vroom... changing your exhaust system not just the muffler(try magnaflow or Borla exhaust system)), much hotter plug, replaced your air filter into Typhoon cold air intake and so much more. This are the most economical way to gain power in your car.

    Horsepower and Torque at the wheels. Well, this is an expensive one and it depends how much horsepower you asking at. A good blown engine can cause you blood and sweat perhaps much more expensive than a brand new car if you really want speed. Avg price for modification, 20 up to 100 Grand(U.S dollar) for street legal. Non street legal it cost more. Stillen is accepting engine modification into any country except afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    Horsepower and Torque at the wheels. Well, this is an expensive one and it depends how much horsepower you asking at. A good blown engine can cause you blood and sweat perhaps much more expensive than a brand new car if you really want speed. Avg price for modification, 20 up to 100 Grand(U.S dollar) for street legal. Non street legal it cost more. Stillen is accepting engine modification into any country except afghanistan.
    adding a blower(supercharger) doesnt cost an average of 20K(US dollars) you can pick up lots of supercharger kits from 1500-5000 bucks.i have a blown engine on my driven truck.i roughly invested 10K and got 480RWHP.
    i wouldnt suggest going with a supercharger tho on your car since your car will be stressed alot by trying to turn the impeler of the supercharger.
    superchargers are much better with bigger engines(V8) cause V8 has alot of power to begin with to be able to turn the impeler without causing lost of engine HP.

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    With the rising cost of fuel do you really need to upgrade your ride for additional horsepower and torque? If that is your daily ride, I suggest do an upgrade that leans more on N/A and not on turbo. Turbo is nice but this is expensive, and if you're planning to boost your stock engine, it ain't worth bro. A change engine plus turbo is more suitable, but since you don't have enough budget for that then settle for the best thing which is just fine tuning and replacing worn parts of your engine. That will surely increase engine performance.

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    erickdpogi is right, settle for the best that wont put a big whole in your pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee View Post
    adding a blower(supercharger) doesnt cost an average of 20K(US dollars) you can pick up lots of supercharger kits from 1500-5000 bucks.i have a blown engine on my driven truck.i roughly invested 10K and got 480RWHP.
    i wouldnt suggest going with a supercharger tho on your car since your car will be stressed alot by trying to turn the impeler of the supercharger.
    superchargers are much better with bigger engines(V8) cause V8 has alot of power to begin with to be able to turn the impeler without causing lost of engine HP.
    Bolt on power is what the called " The fourth wave". You want more street power but, you dont want to risk engine damage. This is various popular external engine modification that are in the after market. Unlike the normally aspirated engine, where bolts on engine modification only produce marginal acceleration gains of a three to five tenths of a seconds and only affect engine power in the last 1500 rpm before red line. This is what supercharger or turbo car by translates in to significant midrange torque as well as higher RPM power gains.
    In your case of your BLOWN ENGINE V8 as you stated and additional bolt-on supercharger and cost only less than TEN G, well that is very good deal of a price for having 480 Rear Wheel HorsePower, which is translate that if your TRUCK has a Manual Tranny then your HORSEPOWER is around 565HP. If it is an AUTO TRANNY then your HORSEPOWER is around 600HP.
    But, remember when doubling your engine power as you push the gears together harder, the amount of loss increases by means of gear mesh friction. You must aware that even w/ manual trans has about 15% drivetrain loss, and the Auto Trans. has about 18%. Drivetrain losses is affected only the mass of the components bearing friction, accessory belt loss etc., and does not increase as power increases. Your TRANNY doesnt suddenly take double the HP to spin gears.

    Blown engine called stock internal modification also known as BIG POWER and that is for those of you who to find out a motor will take before it brakes. This is very long process and only the most knowledgable of engines can do this kind of process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    In your case of your BLOWN ENGINE V8 as you stated and additional bolt-on supercharger and cost only less than TEN G, well that is very good deal of a price for having 480 Rear Wheel HorsePower, which is translate that if your TRUCK has a Manual Tranny then your HORSEPOWER is around 565HP. If it is an AUTO TRANNY then your HORSEPOWER is around 600HP.
    But, remember when doubling your engine power as you push the gears together harder, the amount of loss increases by means of gear mesh friction. You must aware that even w/ manual trans has about 15% drivetrain loss, and the Auto Trans. has about 18%. Drivetrain losses is affected only the mass of the components bearing friction, accessory belt loss etc., and does not increase as power increases. Your TRANNY doesnt suddenly take double the HP to spin gears.
    lemme clarify a little bit here.a "BLOWN engine" is an engine with a supercharger.not a "blown engine with an additional supercharger" hence blown from the "blower".
    when i said its not a good configuration to put a bloer/supercharger on 4 cylinder engine cause it will have a hard time turning the blower is just like putting a belt driven fan instead of an electric fan.any accesories that will add to turning the crankshaft like the AC compressor,belt driven fan radiator and any supercharger will rob power from the engine cause its all belt driven.
    any supercharger(roots,twin screw or centrifugal)are all belt driven unlike turbo that is being spun by the exhaust flow from the engine hence its easier on the engine especially 4 bangers as oppose to a 4 cylinder trying to spin a superchargers impeler upto(and some faster depending on how much boost you need)65000RPM.
    its not the gear spin wehere the HP gets lost from a supercharger but from the engine.

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    don't waste time with high tension wires etc na. spend money on parts that actually free up or better yet, produce more power.

how do i increase horsepower?