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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by miko101130 View Post
    2nd time nang na drain yung amaron ko...
    first time completely na dead below 7 volts, nagloko kasi break pedal sensor, ayun magdamag naka ilaw preno...

    2nd time 2 days ago, nasira diode ng turbo timer kaya nag parasitic drain, na drain uli battery, 9 volts natira, kahapon lang naayos turbo timer at charge uli battery....

    both incidents ay nanghiram ako ng battery tapos nung nag start na pinalit ko yung amaron, so basically ver very quick charge, hahaha...

    pag itong battery na ito tumagal ng more than two years saludo ako, dahil grabe yung parusa na inaabot...
    dami accessories nakakabit, almost everyday usage, on-off scenario....
    sir ano brand ng turbo timer mo and pano nakita na yun diode ang sira? interested just in case
    Last edited by tuazon7; January 5th, 2014 at 08:19 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuazon7 View Post
    sir ano brand ng turbo timer mo and pano nakita na yun diode ang sira? interested just in case
    comtec brand sir.. japan surplus, madalas naka-kabit sa mga nissan silvia..
    model is: BETIME 125, full auto linear...

    meh warp-up function (10min preset)
    full auto time( calculates desired time based on usage)
    manual ( min/sec selectable from 10sec to 10min)

    i was able to determine na diode was the one that caused the parasitic drain( drained battery in just 2 hours), kasi i removed the BTN fuse sa fusebox. ayun nawala voltage drop, so inisa-isa ko lahat fuse sa kick panel, lahat wala consume ng wattage except one, yung sa ignition line, eh naka off naman engine, so silip ko sa ilalim nakita ko yung kinabit before na diode, sobrang init at halos di mahawakan at mapapaso ka, kaya sure na ako na yun sira, to confirm this, tinangal ko yung diode, let the car sit for 4 hours uli then started it.. walang drain na nangyari, eh diode lang tinangal ko from the previous set-up, kaya siya na for sure culprit.

    nung unang install yung turbo timer, pinagawa ko sa electrician sa banawe...
    ang problem is yung alarm ko na autopage, ay may doorlock open feature pag namatay engine.

    pag off engine, mag start na countdown, lalabas ka na vehicle tapos lo-lock muna doors( alarm is armed), pag naubos na yung time sa turbo timer at nag off na engine, ma-sense ng alarm na nag off na ang ignition, mangyayari send siya signal sa door switch para bumukas.

    para hindi bumukas door lock kahit naubos na countdown sa timer, there will be two approach...
    1. put a diode sa ignition sense wire ng alarm
    2. put two relays in tandem in order to basically cut the supply of the ignition sense wire of the alarm once turbo timer cuts supply of 12volts to the ignition line.

    ang ginamit ng electrician before was the diode method.
    pag meh diode it will only allow current to go/flow in just one side or one direction.parang check valve. para kahit mamatay ang ignition after countdown hindi ito ma-sense ni alarm.

    ang problem diodes tend to die randomly without warning, pag nasira si diode chances are mag consume ng power kahit hindi dapat, kasi naka tap sa ignition line.

    what i did was do the second option above ako na mismo ang gumawa ng wiring set-up. magulo mag wiring mga taga banawe eh. placed two relays in tandem to de-couple the supply of the ignition line where the alarm senses whether ignition is off or once the turbo timer starts its countdown...

    lines tapped from OEm harness
    12v constant supply
    white thick wire ( ignition wire before the key switch)
    ignition sense wire after key switch ( black with red stripe)

    pag ganito no need ng diode, at hindi mag open ang door lock kahit matapos ang countdown at mag off ang engine.
    kaya walang pwede masira ng mag drain ng power. ayoko na kasi maulit na ma-drain battery dahil sa sirang diode.
    Last edited by miko101130; January 5th, 2014 at 10:29 PM. Reason: additional info

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    #3
    2SMF without trade 4,300 sa Metrobat. Post ko pricelist nila mamaya.

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    OT lang..... okay ba ang car battery dealership business? anyone into this business?

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    Retz, lahat naman ng business ok e. Depends on how you manage it lang.

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    #6
    price list of Metrobat


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    ^
    4300 pesos ang bili ko ng 2SMF noong September 2013...

    mukhang hinahabol nila ang presyo ng Motolite dahil popular na sila due to endorsement from tsikot!

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    #8
    May dealer ba malapit sa south? Bacoor-Las Pinas-Paranaque Area

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    Quote Originally Posted by povillo View Post
    May dealer ba malapit sa south? Bacoor-Las Pinas-Paranaque Area
    alam ko ang minerva sa alabang meron amaron boss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by povillo View Post
    May dealer ba malapit sa south? Bacoor-Las Pinas-Paranaque Area
    Sa may gilid ng ATC sir, bought mine last year, around 3600. Baka tumaas na ngayon, sumisikat na eh. Meron na din Amaron sa West Service road CABEPCO and sa may bf along pres. ave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by povillo View Post
    May dealer ba malapit sa south? Bacoor-Las Pinas-Paranaque Area
    sa blue zone sa las pinas along alabang zapote road nagbebenta sila last time ko bumisita

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    #12
    Kaninang 8am pagpark ko naiwan nakabukas ung isang cabin light, pagbalik ko ng 6pm worry ako na baka discharge na ung 2SM amaron ko, one click pa din sa pag start, april 2013 ko nabili sa jawe

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    #13
    aabot kaya ito ng 5 years? 5 years kasi warranty nito sa india eh... ahaha. record yung pag umabot itong amaron ko ng 60 months.

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    #14
    Miko, parang 2+3 yata warranty sa india if im not mistaken. 2 years na outright replacement, then 3 years repair? Parang ganun nabasa ko sa ibang forum. Pero malalaman natin kung ok ba talaga amaron hehe update mo lang kami.

    Nung nakuha ko amaron kanina, 10.+ volts lang before nung unang start base sa volt meter ko.then after mga 20km use, naging 12.+ na pag naka off engine

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    Mas mura amaron compared sa motolite excel? Pag umabot 5 years yan naku mawawalan ng stock yan gaya ng baldwin filter. Lol.


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    #16
    Metrobat same price kay Jawe AFAIK. So lumalabas standard pricing ang Amaron.

    Hindi ko sure if mahina ba charge ng amaron ko or hindi hindi lang accurate voltmeter ko. Minsan pag idle bagsak sa 12v reading ko.

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    #17
    According to Motolite NS60 daw ang size ng Vios. How to convert to 1SN or 1SM?

    Pa check mo na lang siguro CB. Saan sila sa Kalayaan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    According to Motolite NS60 daw ang size ng Vios. How to convert to 1SN or 1SM?

    Pa check mo na lang siguro CB. Saan sila sa Kalayaan?
    iba yung NS60 sa 1SM/SN. walang NS60 sa Amaron hehe

    Metrobat sa Kalayaan just before South Cemetery.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    iba yung NS60 sa 1SM/SN. walang NS60 sa Amaron hehe

    Metrobat sa Kalayaan just before South Cemetery.
    nag d deliver ba ang metrobat?

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    Metrobat same price kay Jawe AFAIK. So lumalabas standard pricing ang Amaron.

    Hindi ko sure if mahina ba charge ng amaron ko or hindi hindi lang accurate voltmeter ko. Minsan pag idle bagsak sa 12v reading ko.

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    12V pag hindi china-charge ng alternator. ~14V kapag charging.

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