Daihatsu tampered with safety tests for 30 years

[111prez]

Wow, I did not expect it would be this bad ... Daihatsu: Toyota-owned automaker halts Japan production after admitting it tampered with safety tests for 3 years | CNN Business

[dr. d]

Wow, I did not expect it would be this bad ... Daihatsu: Toyota-owned automaker halts Japan production after admitting it tampered with safety tests for 3� years | CNN Business

... which begs me the question,
"who else cheats?"

even if the vehicle scores low in these safety evaluations, they won't necessarily pull the said vehicles off from the streets in some countries that may not require such standards.
of course, sales figures may suffer as a result of the lower scores...

so i wonder,
in what aspect did my 2014 wigo cheat under?

[Miles_on]

... which begs me the question,
"who else cheats?"

If I recall correctly, Volkswagen (emissions tests?) and even Mitsubishi (vehicle defects?) had had their own share of scandals like this as well...

Without reading the article itself, perhaps it may not be a question of actually cheating, but stretching the truth in test results? Alas, a white lie, is a lie just the same.

[dr. d]

If I recall correctly, Volkswagen (emissions tests?) and even Mitsubishi (vehicle defects?) had had their own share of scandals like this as well...

in the olden days, when fuel warn't yet much of an issue,
VW would habitually under-report its fuel efficiency figures.

mitsubishi only relatively recently confessed to its alleged corporate shenanigans.

but the most creative "side-stepping" that i remember and was most entertained with, were those committed by the racing folks, in their quest to be number one at the finish line.

[Walter]

Manufacturers are forced to cheat to comply with unreasonable government restrictions ... some restrictions are simply not attainable given the current technology ...

[Deestone]

Will this in anyway affect the reputation of Toyota?

[Dr.Kamiya]

If I recall correctly, Volkswagen (emissions tests?) and even Mitsubishi (vehicle defects?) had had their own share of scandals like this as well...

Without reading the article itself, perhaps it may not be a question of actually cheating, but stretching the truth in test results? Alas, a white lie, is a lie just the same.

It's outright cheating. Crash tested vehicles had different interior panels than production spec, hence getting better occupant safety results. That story broke months ago pa, but I guess the repercussions finally reached here just now.

From Reuters:

They said the door trim on the affected vehicles had been modified with a "notch" to minimise the risk in testing that the door interior could break with a sharp edge and cause injury to an occupant when the side airbag deployed in an accident.

The modification for testing was not part of the production vehicle, the companies said.

Manufacturers are forced to cheat to comply with unreasonable government restrictions ... some restrictions are simply not attainable given the current technology ...

If the problem could be solved with a simple notch, then I don't think it's unreasonable at all. They just need to re-tool their production lines to include that notch as well. Injection molding lang naman yung interior plastics, they just need to change the mold. Such a short pause in production here probably means they're doing just that. Stop production for a few weeks to change the molds for the doors and resume in a few weeks.






The Mitsubishi thing was mileage IIRC, and IMO not that big of a deal. They were over-inflating the tires of vehicles sent for mileage testing to reduce rolling resistance. There's no hidden cheat mode or defeat device in the cars.

[LOLZ]

... which begs me the question,
"who else cheats?"

even if the vehicle scores low in these safety evaluations, they won't necessarily pull the said vehicles off from the streets in some countries that may not require such standards.
of course, sales figures may suffer as a result of the lower scores...

so i wonder,
in what aspect did my 2014 wigo cheat under?

it seems that,for the first generation wigo, the perodua axia is singled out as having fraudulent test results.



Taken from a machine translation of daihatsu's report

[dr. d]

Will this in anyway affect the reputation of Toyota?

"you can get away with many things, when you are at the top of the heap", i.e., "where will your disgruntled costumers transfer their affections to? to the far second down the heap?"

"now we know what toyota has been up to. but before we leave toyota, do we know what the competition we will be transfering to, have been up to?"

heh heh.
food for thought lang.

[Monseratto]

Daihatsu to halt all production in Japan until end-Jan 2024 – Perodua production reported to have resumed

[EE100shiro]

Hindi pala totoo na 5 star safety rating ang Toyota Rush rigged pala

[Monseratto]

Side impact weld issue: Toyota PH has separate recall for Avanza, Veloz

[dr. d]

Side impact weld issue: Toyota PH has separate recall for Avanza, Veloz

if it's free of charge to the car owner...
why not!
count me in!

[Cpt35]

Hindi pala totoo na 5 star safety rating ang Toyota Rush rigged pala

why dude?.

[dr. d]

Hindi pala totoo na 5 star safety rating ang Toyota Rush rigged pala

with this new development,
i am wondering,
what is the toyota rush's new safety rating?

[cityfolk]

with this new development,
i am wondering,
what is the toyota rush's new safety rating?

If you think about it being caught cheating on a test means you get disqualified from that test. They forfeit whatever star rating they had so effectively 0-star.

[dr. d]

Hindi pala totoo na 5 star safety rating ang Toyota Rush rigged pala

i am now confused,
was it the rush, or were it the avanza/veloz, that were decidedly cheater-d.. ?

[Verbl Kint]

Multiple recalls just weeks apart from each other clearly indicates to me that DNGA vehicles should be avoided.

It's probably not going to impact Toyota sales in the Philippines that much, though. Most of the non-gearhead friends I have don't even know about these recalls.

[Monseratto]

Brake Issue: Toyota PH has a recall for Avanza, Raize, Velozl

[hardwang]

It's probably not going to impact Toyota sales in the Philippines that much, though. Most of the non-gearhead friends I have don't even know about these recalls.

Or even if they do know, it won't matter to them as long as it has the coveted "T" badge