Small car body with large engine VS Big car body with small engine

[_Cathy_]

Ginawa ng Daddy ko dati magpalit ng makina. It was an old Lancer (yung saturn ang original engine) na nilagyan niya ng 2.0 engine ng L300. He got a lot of small talk from strangers from that car everytime he opens the engine bay. Puro makina daw yung engine bay and it was positioned differently para kumasya. That car was fast kasi ang gaan ng body pero ang laki ng engine. I would understand that type of small body with a large engine.

But a GTR engine on an ALTO??? Is that even feasible?

[carofsteel]

Siguro naman sir hindi dahil may sports car ka e need mo magpa takbo ng matulin or makipag karera palagi.. Yes, hindi matulin pero ma porma.. Sabihin natin kahit maliit ang budget e ma gara naman ang auto..

In short RICE! Sa mang inasal unlimited yan.:-D

[philsat]

The GTR with an 800cc engine? Can't climb Guadalupe hill... let alone Antipolo.

Alto with a 3.6l twin turbo engine? It will take up the driver and front passenger seat, and crush the front suspension...

You'd have wasted two cars in the process. Leave them be, and get yourself a dressed up Sarao jeepney

Aakyat parin yan sir.. Gapang nga lang.. Im sure kayang ipasok sa loob ng alto ang gtr engine yun nga lang wala ng space sa iba.. At yung driver seat e uurong sa bandang likod.. Kung suspension naman e lagyan ng maayos na kaya yung engine..sabihin natin na car ito na puro engine lang..

[17Sphynx17]

Hindi ko lang maintindihan purpose nitong topic na ito.

This is basically a all-show-no-go car lalo na sa gustong starting pointna alto 800c as the example stated to make into a GTR.

Iniinsist na kaya magawa, pero hindi mo din ba dapat idamay interior kung show car nga ito? So panu mo gagawin kung hindi babaguhin yung buong framing na di hamak mas malaki nga since ang starting point mo Alto na microcar to jump to size of midsize?

Kung yung starting point siguru one size down to one size up it would at least make sense like an Altis to a Camry. Or a City to a Civic.

If purpose mo naman is sleeper car like yung Camry na dragster na pinakita sa SEMA, pano magagawa sa Alto kung yung engine block pa lang mismo occupied na engine bay ng Alto sa makina pa lang, panu yung ibang components para umandar? Nakaupo ka sa rear passenger bench na bale para magkaasya GTR components? E di hindi na sleeper car yung kasi halata na hindi siya stock diba?

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Hindi ko lang maintindihan purpose nitong topic na ito.

This is basically a all-show-no-go car lalo na sa gustong starting pointna alto 800c as the example stated to make into a GTR.

Iniinsist na kaya magawa, pero hindi mo din ba dapat idamay interior kung show car nga ito? So panu mo gagawin kung hindi babaguhin yung buong framing na di hamak mas malaki nga since ang starting point mo Alto na microcar to jump to size of midsize?

Kung yung starting point siguru one size down to one size up it would at least make sense like an Altis to a Camry. Or a City to a Civic.

If purpose mo naman is sleeper car like yung Camry na dragster na pinakita sa SEMA, pano magagawa sa Alto kung yung engine block pa lang mismo occupied na engine bay ng Alto sa makina pa lang, panu yung ibang components para umandar? Nakaupo ka sa rear passenger bench na bale para magkaasya GTR components? E di hindi na sleeper car yung kasi halata na hindi siya stock diba?

[philsat]

Hindi ko lang maintindihan purpose nitong topic na ito.

This is basically a all-show-no-go car lalo na sa gustong starting pointna alto 800c as the example stated to make into a GTR.

Iniinsist na kaya magawa, pero hindi mo din ba dapat idamay interior kung show car nga ito? So panu mo gagawin kung hindi babaguhin yung buong framing na di hamak mas malaki nga since ang starting point mo Alto na microcar to jump to size of midsize?

Kung yung starting point siguru one size down to one size up it would at least make sense like an Altis to a Camry. Or a City to a Civic.

If purpose mo naman is sleeper car like yung Camry na dragster na pinakita sa SEMA, pano magagawa sa Alto kung yung engine block pa lang mismo occupied na engine bay ng Alto sa makina pa lang, panu yung ibang components para umandar? Nakaupo ka sa rear passenger bench na bale para magkaasya GTR components? E di hindi na sleeper car yung kasi halata na hindi siya stock diba?

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Hindi ko lang maintindihan purpose nitong topic na ito.

This is basically a all-show-no-go car lalo na sa gustong starting pointna alto 800c as the example stated to make into a GTR.

Iniinsist na kaya magawa, pero hindi mo din ba dapat idamay interior kung show car nga ito? So panu mo gagawin kung hindi babaguhin yung buong framing na di hamak mas malaki nga since ang starting point mo Alto na microcar to jump to size of midsize?

Kung yung starting point siguru one size down to one size up it would at least make sense like an Altis to a Camry. Or a City to a Civic.

If purpose mo naman is sleeper car like yung Camry na dragster na pinakita sa SEMA, pano magagawa sa Alto kung yung engine block pa lang mismo occupied na engine bay ng Alto sa makina pa lang, panu yung ibang components para umandar? Nakaupo ka sa rear passenger bench na bale para magkaasya GTR components? E di hindi na sleeper car yung kasi halata na hindi siya stock diba?

Siguro sa alto body with gtr engine e maraming modifications talangang gagawin ang sa 2nd row na naka upo ang driver para magkasya ang makina..

Yung gtr body with alto engine e yun malapit sa katutuhanan.. Baka maluwag pa ang engine bay.. Yun nga lang takbong alto ang nissan gtr. Hehe..

For you sir walang sense ito. I just gather some info.. Who knows may makita akong tao dito na may same vision ko...create a sports car body on a small engine.. Ma porma. Magagamit mo araw araw kasi matipid sa gas at maintenance..afford ng maraming pinoy..

[philsat]

Hehe di ko ma gets purpose nitong thread na to.. sports car pero alto.. tapos malaking body tapos malit na makina? Meron bang sports car ganun?

Actually sir wala pang ganung car.. Sports car ang dating na gamit ang small engine..

Kaya nga parang may market siya.. New type. of car na ma eexperience mo ang comfort, wide ng sports car on lower budget, lower speed, lower maintenance and fuel.

[oj88]

Actually sir wala pang ganung car.. Sports car ang dating na gamit ang small engine..

Kaya nga parang may market siya.. New type. of car na ma eexperience mo ang comfort, wide ng sports car on lower budget, lower speed, lower maintenance and fuel.

Not really. Using a small/weak engine on a big-body 'sports car' means disproportionate power to weight ratio and leads to:

1. Bad fuel economy
2. Accelerated stress and wear on the powertrain

[philsat]

Ginawa ng Daddy ko dati magpalit ng makina. It was an old Lancer (yung saturn ang original engine) na nilagyan niya ng 2.0 engine ng L300. He got a lot of small talk from strangers from that car everytime he opens the engine bay. Puro makina daw yung engine bay and it was positioned differently para kumasya. That car was fast kasi ang gaan ng body pero ang laki ng engine. I would understand that type of small body with a large engine.

But a GTR engine on an ALTO??? Is that even feasible?

Bukod sa engine bay ng alto e pati yung driver seat e sakop ng engine.. Require alot of modification.. Malamang yung driver seat e asa pangalawang row na.. Haha

[Sarsi]

To the TS, get in touch with Gearspeed, mukhang pareho kayo ng gusto sa buhay. Siya kasi gusto ng altis na 1000 hp. Magkakasundi kayo nun.

[boytsiks]

To the TS, get in touch with Gearspeed, mukhang pareho kayo ng gusto sa buhay. Siya kasi gusto ng altis na 1000 hp. Magkakasundi kayo nun.

Sir yan nga ang duda ko. Baka alternick ni gearspeed yan.

Baka di na nabuo ni gearspeed yung 1000hp corolla nya kaya nagbago ng linya. "Sports" car with econo engine na, hehehe!

[philsat]

Not really. Using a small/weak engine on a big-body 'sports car' means disproportionate power to weight ratio and leads to:

1. Bad fuel economy
2. Accelerated stress and wear on the powertrain

I think sir hindi..may option naman na gumamit ng mas magagaan na materials. Like fiber or alum kung body lang ang pag uusapan natin. Parang small car lang siya na, nilagyan mo ng body kit para lumalupad..

I think mas magaan pa nga ang body ng sports car sa ordinary car..

[philsat]

Sir yan nga ang duda ko. Baka alternick ni gearspeed yan.



Baka di na nabuo ni gearspeed yung 1000hp corolla nya kaya nagbago ng linya. "Sports" car with econo engine na, hehehe!

Actually sir hindi ko po siya kilala. Pero ok na, sumali siya sa topic na ito..who knows magawa ng concept car na sports car ang looks pero fuel econony.. Hehe..

[beeftapa]

A car can't be called a sport car if it ain't fast. It seems TS wants a porma or baduy car for the purpose of getting attention.

Well there are other ways to get attention e.g. Beast mode, creating thread like this etc

[philsat]

I really want a car that stand out. Like ferri or lambu. But less fuel consumption and cheap to maintain..

[17Sphynx17]

I really want a car that stand out. Like ferri or lambu. But less fuel consumption and cheap to maintain..

Hindi nga kasi tama yung reasoning mo e.

Sabihin natin sana compact or midsize yung subframe to start along with their respective stock engines. Tapos say papatungan mo ng body Ng porsche 911 na made out of a mold (maybe). So you have the looks of a porsche with some modifcation done to make it look the part inside (interior) as well but the mechanicals are mostly retained from the donor car which is the compact/midsize car you started off with.

What I mentioned makes sense, what you are saying/proposing doesn't and you will clearly not be spending less on that change/transition.

The small engine with big body doesn't make sense in the fact that you are overstressing every mechanical part so you will more than likely breakdown more often.

The big engine on a tiny frame from a donor car also doesn't make sense as the structural of the vehicle will most likely not be able to handle the power and not have proper weight balance.

Sinasabi na mali yung starting point mo. Walang sinasabi impossible yung idea per se of getting a look of another car but you have to start off with a proper donor car/starting vehicle. Hindi Alto. That's illogical.

As for the engine, wala naman masama din kung gumamit ka ng turbocharged/boosted small engine like say 2.0 ecoboost ng Ford kunwari to make it fit in a smaller engine bay kunwari since iba na construction nung engine ng ford while giving you the performance of a bigger engine if you want to push it.

Wag mo lang ipilit yung alto with GTr engine or Alto donor car with an oversized GTR body kasi hindi din naman tama yung frame niya.

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I really want a car that stand out. Like ferri or lambu. But less fuel consumption and cheap to maintain..

Hindi nga kasi tama yung reasoning mo e.

Sabihin natin sana compact or midsize yung subframe to start along with their respective stock engines. Tapos say papatungan mo ng body Ng porsche 911 na made out of a mold (maybe). So you have the looks of a porsche with some modifcation done to make it look the part inside (interior) as well but the mechanicals are mostly retained from the donor car which is the compact/midsize car you started off with.

What I mentioned makes sense, what you are saying/proposing doesn't and you will clearly not be spending less on that change/transition.

The small engine with big body doesn't make sense in the fact that you are overstressing every mechanical part so you will more than likely breakdown more often.

The big engine on a tiny frame from a donor car also doesn't make sense as the structural of the vehicle will most likely not be able to handle the power and not have proper weight balance.

Sinasabi na mali yung starting point mo. Walang sinasabi impossible yung idea per se of getting a look of another car but you have to start off with a proper donor car/starting vehicle. Hindi Alto. That's illogical.

As for the engine, wala naman masama din kung gumamit ka ng turbocharged/boosted small engine like say 2.0 ecoboost ng Ford kunwari to make it fit in a smaller engine bay kunwari since iba na construction nung engine ng ford while giving you the performance of a bigger engine if you want to push it.

Wag mo lang ipilit yung alto with GTr engine or Alto donor car with an oversized GTR body kasi hindi din naman tama yung frame niya.

[ClaNker]

I really want a car that stand out. Like ferri or lambu. But less fuel consumption and cheap to maintain..

That's it. Please lock this thread.

[foresterx]

:bwahaha: ilan taon na kaya ito si ts? mukhang walang alam sa kotse kaya di alam na walang kwenta ang idea niya.

[cast_no_shadow]

Ilang thread ba ginawa ni TS na ganito ang tema?

locked na yung isa diba?

bakit ito bukas pa?

[dr. d]

I really want a car that stand out. Like ferri or lambu. But less fuel consumption and cheap to maintain..

try the kit cars, sir. they're in the internet.
planchado na ang mga 'yon.. no need for brain-drizzling.. pera mo na lang ang hinihintay.
'nuff said.

[philsat]

Hindi nga kasi tama yung reasoning mo e.

Sabihin natin sana compact or midsize yung subframe to start along with their respective stock engines. Tapos say papatungan mo ng body Ng porsche 911 na made out of a mold (maybe). So you have the looks of a porsche with some modifcation done to make it look the part inside (interior) as well but the mechanicals are mostly retained from the donor car which is the compact/midsize car you started off with.

What I mentioned makes sense, what you are saying/proposing doesn't and you will clearly not be spending less on that change/transition.

The small engine with big body doesn't make sense in the fact that you are overstressing every mechanical part so you will more than likely breakdown more often.

The big engine on a tiny frame from a donor car also doesn't make sense as the structural of the vehicle will most likely not be able to handle the power and not have proper weight balance.

Sinasabi na mali yung starting point mo. Walang sinasabi impossible yung idea per se of getting a look of another car but you have to start off with a proper donor car/starting vehicle. Hindi Alto. That's illogical.

As for the engine, wala naman masama din kung gumamit ka ng turbocharged/boosted small engine like say 2.0 ecoboost ng Ford kunwari to make it fit in a smaller engine bay kunwari since iba na construction nung engine ng ford while giving you the performance of a bigger engine if you want to push it.

Wag mo lang ipilit yung alto with GTr engine or Alto donor car with an oversized GTR body kasi hindi din naman tama yung frame niya.

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Hindi nga kasi tama yung reasoning mo e.

Sabihin natin sana compact or midsize yung subframe to start along with their respective stock engines. Tapos say papatungan mo ng body Ng porsche 911 na made out of a mold (maybe). So you have the looks of a porsche with some modifcation done to make it look the part inside (interior) as well but the mechanicals are mostly retained from the donor car which is the compact/midsize car you started off with.

What I mentioned makes sense, what you are saying/proposing doesn't and you will clearly not be spending less on that change/transition.

The small engine with big body doesn't make sense in the fact that you are overstressing every mechanical part so you will more than likely breakdown more often.

The big engine on a tiny frame from a donor car also doesn't make sense as the structural of the vehicle will most likely not be able to handle the power and not have proper weight balance.

Sinasabi na mali yung starting point mo. Walang sinasabi impossible yung idea per se of getting a look of another car but you have to start off with a proper donor car/starting vehicle. Hindi Alto. That's illogical.

As for the engine, wala naman masama din kung gumamit ka ng turbocharged/boosted small engine like say 2.0 ecoboost ng Ford kunwari to make it fit in a smaller engine bay kunwari since iba na construction nung engine ng ford while giving you the performance of a bigger engine if you want to push it.

Wag mo lang ipilit yung alto with GTr engine or Alto donor car with an oversized GTR body kasi hindi din naman tama yung frame niya.

Accepted 800cc alto is not acceptable on sports car body.. What if 1.6 engine of altis or diesel engine of innova?

Sorry naman. 1.6 pala.