Car Restoration

[ice15]

Quick question... You see an old car sa house nyo... Not running for years.

What part will you check to decide na pwede pa i-restore yung car?

Personally kasi, I check the Strut Tower, Flooring, Roof and yung post where the doors are connected, if they are all still aligned and in good condition.

If the car has a ladder frame, roof and door posts lang...

[minicarph]

Sa panahon ngaun I wouldn'restore a car na ginamit ng iba, kahit pinsan o kapatid mo pa

But if it's yours na tinambak mo lang since 90s or 80s alam mo history, pede


The banawe boys and shops are now profiling. If you go there with a car, iba presyo mo. Unlike if mechanic mo nagpunta. Eh ganun din tagain ka din ng mekaniko mo

Sa Fronte ganyan-ganyan ang mga mata ng tao dun, alam din nila na popular sila sa mga tiga-internet

Payo lang id you have a Hyundai, better think twice on restoring

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[jaypee10]

kung gusto mo talagang i restore.

wala kana ibang sisilipin.at siguraduhing mong naka handa ka sa lahat ng gastos para maibalik sa dati ung tsikot na gusto mong buhayin muli..

[carguy101]

Sa panahon ngaun I wouldn'restore a car na ginamit ng iba, kahit pinsan o kapatid mo pa

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oo nga, especially kung yung gagamit nun ay alam mong may "pagka-enthusiastic" mag drive at mabilis lalaspagin...


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[vinj]

There are a lot of factors but there is almost one sure thing, you will most likely spend more on than the value of the car if you sell it.

Things to consider:
- Rust (you really have to remove fenders and interior parts/carpets, and lift the car even, to get a good picture of the rust)
- Alignment of panels
- Interior and exterior trim (this can be one of the real time takers, and cost makers)
- mechanical condition.
- your standards of perfection

Case in point: I have a good condition, running and reliable Sentra B13 however it does need a fresh coat of paint. I never gone around to doing it anymore because to my standards i'll probably spend 35-45K to fix the body to the condition i want while the value of the vehicle if it is sold is only 60K-75K (whether it is repainted or not).

[carguy101]

Quick question... You see an old car sa house nyo... Not running for years.

What part will you check to decide na pwede pa i-restore yung car?

Personally kasi, I check the Strut Tower, Flooring, Roof and yung post where the doors are connected, if they are all still aligned and in good condition.

If the car has a ladder frame, roof and door posts lang...

if i were to do a complete restoration on one of my vintage cars na ilang years naka stock, i would check all that you said, tapos i would also check kung madami pang "original parts" ang vintage car na yun. such as the steering wheel, wheels, components, exterior, and interior parts, etc.

some simple parts of a more modern car are cheap and easy to find, but on vintage cars it would cost you tens of thousands just to find a part!

it also depends what your definition of restoration is. by restoration do you mean restoring it to the manufacturers original specification?

or just fix it up, make it look good and install aftermarket parts (that would decrease the value of a car)


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[carguy101]

and of course nga, it depends if what youre restoring is a keeper or not, would you spend hundreds of thousands on restoring lets say uhh... anyone have suggestions stions on a car thats not worth keeping?


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[minicarph]

and of course nga, it depends if what youre restoring is a keeper or not, would you spend hundreds of thousands on restoring lets say uhh... anyone have suggestions stions on a car thats not worth keeping?


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Non-Suv or non-pickup are cars not worth restoring if you're gonna use it again in traffic. And also gasoline vans,

Diesel vans pwede pa restore, dun naman sa mga Eurocars, good luck. You'll spend more than say a Nissan Juke or Ecosport, and still di nakaka-siguro na itirik nyan


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[dr. d]

Quick question... You see an old car sa house nyo... Not running for years.

What part will you check to decide na pwede pa i-restore yung car?

Personally kasi, I check the Strut Tower, Flooring, Roof and yung post where the doors are connected, if they are all still aligned and in good condition.

If the car has a ladder frame, roof and door posts lang...

i'd check my bankbook, after i check with my wife! she's the one who always castigates me for buying used, when we can easily afford brand new, daw. women! walang love for classic metal...

but seriously, i'd check the body and chassis. especially the suspension points. yes, those you mentioned.
the engine is easy. one can overhaul it to factory spec, or easily transplant another, fully functioning engine there.
the underchassis and wheels, are also fully replaceable.
then, i'd look around if spare parts are still available at a reasonable price.

i still remember...
"tsip, meron ba kayong ball joints? for escort.." ... sagot nila, "wala", or "meron. kanan lang. two pieces left. 1,000 kesos each".
i envy the toyota guys.."200 kesos oem. 150 kung replacement. kanan at kaliwa. ilan gusto mo?"

but the words of a car aficionado still ring clear to me..
"a vintage car, no matter how much money you pour into it, will still drive like... an old car!"

[shadow]

Depende sa kotse I mean kung vintage talaga. Thats the first thing you have to know. But run of the mills lang na old car never mind. Waste of time and money.

Yun spend na pag restore na Oras i-OT mo na lang if youre an employee sa company para makaipon pangbili ng kahit entry level na modern car or yun maliliit now. Mas maganda pa.

Now Meron mga palusot na "sentimental value" daw. Kalokohan Yan old car is old car kahit Anong gawin mo luma pa Rin.

Unless you're *minicarph na gagawa ng garage pang display ng mga 90's vehicles niya para show off daw sa mga friends niya tapos idol pa niya si ericthecarguy ng YouTube. [emoji51]

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[dr. d]

unless pushed to the wall, or that car is a highly-prized collectible, no one without sentimental value in his veins, will restore any car.

and yes, sentimental value is utterly valueless in the second hand car market.
to those who are thinking of selling their sentimental value cars, i say, "sell it now, while it still has some value left".
but there are exceptions... "this caddy was driven by elvis himself! this here's a picture of elvis with the car.."

[jaypee10]

kung car collector lover ka.maibabalik mo sa dati yan.pero para kana din bumili ng bagong sasakyan.baka higit pa.

[carguy101]

kung car collector lover ka.maibabalik mo sa dati yan.pero para kana din bumili ng bagong sasakyan.baka higit pa.

mas mahal pa yata sa brand new car i-maintain if you want to keep in in its original shape, and keep the original parts...
first of all di pa yata uso ang rust-proofing noon and lots of vintage cars are handmade (like the vw karmann ghia) thats why they rust easily and are quite fragile... kung di mo alagaan para di mangalawang malaki gagastusin mo. and not a lot of people know how to do the body work correctly, kung mali pagkagawa bawas sa value yan...

second, kung mabasag ang windshield/bintana mo. ay naku good luck. wala naman yata ganyan sa third party na window maker (e.g. aguila glass) kung meron man bawas din sa value!

preserving a vintage car is also about preserving its value, IMO an all stock all original vintage car is much better to look at than a "souped up" "riced out" one...

and dun din makikita ng tao ang skill mo in restoring a car sa mga vintage car show, your determination to find the original wheels, panels, side mirrors, kahit manibela!
the beautiful outcome of a vintage car will pay off the cash youve spent on it!


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[jaypee10]

mas mahal pa yata sa brand new car i-maintain if you want to keep in in its original shape, and keep the original parts...
first of all di pa yata uso ang rust-proofing noon and lots of vintage cars are handmade (like the vw karmann ghia) thats why they rust easily and are quite fragile... kung di mo alagaan para di mangalawang malaki gagastusin mo. and not a lot of people know how to do the body work correctly, kung mali pagkagawa bawas sa value yan...

second, kung mabasag ang windshield/bintana mo. ay naku good luck. wala naman yata ganyan sa third party na window maker (e.g. aguila glass) kung meron man bawas din sa value!

preserving a vintage car is also about preserving its value, IMO an all stock all original vintage car is much better to look at than a "souped up" "riced out" one...

and dun din makikita ng tao ang skill mo in restoring a car sa mga vintage car show, your determination to find the original wheels, panels, side mirrors, kahit manibela!
the beautiful outcome of a vintage car will pay off the cash youve spent on it!


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tama may kapitbahay kasi ako na mahilig kumulekta ng mga vintage car.palagi niyang sinasali sa show.ung mga modelong sasakyan niya nasa bilad open parking .pero ung mga vintage collection niya.abay naka balot at nasa loob ng isang gym,

[carguy101]

and yes, sentimental value is utterly valueless in the second hand car market.
to those who are thinking of selling their sentimental value cars, i say, "sell it now, while it still has some value left"

i agree with you, there was this one time i saw an ad on olx, a mitsubishi lancer 1983 "boxtype". 2 of the doors are obviously not the original ones as the color is different, it hasnt been registered in years, many small bits and pieces missing, headliner no more... and its the 4 speed manual type.

and you would be guessing that a unit in that condition would only be less than 30k... but no! not at all, its priced more expensive than a 1995 nissan sentra! "non negotiable, sacrifice sale. this car has sentimental value to us, blah blah" i wanted to tell them, why didnt you sell it nun mas maganda pa yung condition nya para kahit more than 20 nyo mabenta. but that would have been too rude of me!
p.s. i wouldnt even trade my phone for it. heck i wont even trade my old nokia phone for it! [emoji39]


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[vinj]

Depende sa kotse I mean kung vintage talaga. Thats the first thing you have to know. But run of the mills lang na old car never mind. Waste of time and money.

You will just spend on it if you really intend to use and enjoy the car on your own and don't care about the resale value if you sell. There's an LC80 up for sale and it is indeed well-restored. The owner is selling for PHP 1.9M and yet that doesn't make him recover the costs he shelled out for vehicle + repairs and restoration.

[carguy101]

You will just spend on it if you really intend to use and enjoy the car on your own and don't care about the resale value if you sell. There's an LC80 up for sale and it is indeed well-restored. The owner is selling for PHP 1.9M and yet that doesn't make him recover the costs he shelled out for vehicle + repairs and restoration.

well, they say "owning a car is just a losing investment." and thats true...

thats why its pointless to install unnecessary components in a vintage car. better yet, a car in general. if you soup up your car be it tasteful modifications or not, talo ka in the end when you sell it.

take for example the hondas out there for sale na fully setup, change engine, etc. etc. modifications like those will not benefit you or your cars value in any way, it might even benefit the buyer in fact, because he could sell the components you have installed and possibly even recover what he has spent buying the car!

and the consensus is, if you want a car that looks good and goes fast you will do it yourself (and it would cost you about the same price of a car thats already modified, if not cheaper). built not bought.


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[minicarph]

Unless you're *minicarph na gagawa ng garage pang display ng mga 90's vehicles niya para show off daw sa mga friends niya tapos idol pa niya si ericthecarguy ng YouTube. [emoji51]

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Hoy hinde ah. Mga SUVs lang ang garage showcase. No sedans, pickups, vans or others.

At saka yun garage ko parang Japanese House na may mga swords sa dingding

And excuse me, erickthecarguy looks so jologs. Si Chrisfix with his collection of ratchets and wrenches ang dream ko


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[carguy101]

im biased, but a good car to start for a newbie car collector/restorer would be a classic vw beetle. the unit itself is easy to find and cheap, parts are still easy to find kahit medyo nababawasan na, the car itself is very simple and easy to fix, it just keeps running no matter what...


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[donbuggy]

im biased, but a good car to start for a newbie car collector/restorer would be a classic vw beetle. the unit itself is easy to find and cheap, parts are still easy to find kahit medyo nababawasan na, the car itself is very simple and easy to fix, it just keeps running no matter what...

I agree. But I'd rather have a something special, a convertible VW Beetle.