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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I think your vision is like the Honda CRZ. Looks really sporty but falls short on the grunt.
    I think kasi most car buyer, looks ang unang titignan, if yung looks ng car ay bagay sa personality nila.. Then 2nd engine kung kaya ba silang dalhin point to point on less cost..

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    I think kasi most car buyer, looks ang unang titignan, if yung looks ng car ay bagay sa personality nila.. Then 2nd engine kung kaya ba silang dalhin point to point on less cost..
    I can only speak for myself. When scouting for a new car, the looks will catch my attention of course. After it does, I start looking at the interior and features. After that, I look at the engine & specs. I then ask the price & see if I can work on it. If for some reason, there are things & features in the car I feel are deal breakers, then I just look for something else. In your case, if I buy a car like your vision & I can't even smoke a Kia Pride, that will really be embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    i prefer sleepers. i can still remember years ago in libis where a few honda sir were eating dust against a kia cd5, powered with mazda Z5 engine. parang nakakahiya yata yong mabilis ang porma pero mabagal ang takbo. just my thoughts.
    Hehe.. Wag lang e kakarera sir..kung baga gwapo lang then tama lang sa permance. Sa traffic at pangit ng daan sa pinas e malamang hindi mo ma enjoy masyado ang sports car talaga..

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    You'll need an ultralight weight car para maging fuel efficient yan.

    You wouldnt want something na maoovertakean ng tricycle sa provincial road and gargles like a V8 due to its weight.

    I heard shops in region that does customization. But i think they only do AUV with CRV's front fascia. You can try those shops

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    Quote Originally Posted by boytsiks View Post
    You'll need an ultralight weight car para maging fuel efficient yan.

    You wouldnt want something na maoovertakean ng tricycle sa provincial road and gargles like a V8 due to its weight.

    I heard shops in region that does customization. But i think they only do AUV with CRV's front fascia. You can try those shops
    Haha. Too much naman siguro yun sir kung ma overtake pa ng tricycle.. Sabihin na nating ang vios engine can carry 5 passenger then yung concept car e for 2 passenger lang.. The concept car can use the weight of 3 passager less for the permance and weight of the body..

    It will perform like toyota vios with 5 passenger always. Hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I can only speak for myself. When scouting for a new car, the looks will catch my attention of course. After it does, I start looking at the interior and features. After that, I look at the engine & specs. I then ask the price & see if I can work on it. If for some reason, there are things & features in the car I feel are deal breakers, then I just look for something else. In your case, if I buy a car like your vision & I can't even smoke a Kia Pride, that will really be embarrassing.
    It will perform like vios with 5 passenger always. Accelerate like it have 5 passenger inside even you only have 2 passenger only..

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    car performance is dependent on power-weight ratio. heavy body with underpowered engine will take you nowhere. besides, it will just result to increase fuel consumption. however, if you really want it, i suggest make it a carbon fiber reinforced body. maybe it will lessen its weight. however, i still find driving a car that looks fast but runs slow as embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    It will perform like vios with 5 passenger always. Accelerate like it have 5 passenger inside even you only have 2 passenger only..
    it can't and it won't.
    not unless you can manufacture a sturdy-enough mustang-size body with the weight of a vios body, and still be cheap enough for your target population.
    yes, you can probably do it if you make it out of carbon fiber and other space-age material. but then, the cost will be so high.. bili na lang tayo ng genuine mustang, may sukli pa.

    the weight difference between the two cars is... 500 or 600 kg?
    Last edited by dr. d; April 11th, 2015 at 04:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    car performance is dependent on power-weight ratio. heavy body with underpowered engine will take you nowhere. besides, it will just result to increase fuel consumption. however, if you really want it, i suggest make it a carbon fiber reinforced body. maybe it will lessen its weight. however, i still find driving a car that looks fast but runs slow as embarrassing.
    If vios engine can carry 5 passenger smoothly and the concept car is 2 seater. Can we use the 3 passenger weight and be car body weight? To pass on power weight ratio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    If vios engine can carry 5 passenger smoothly and the concept car is 2 seater. Can we use the 3 passenger weight and be car body weight? To pass on power weight ratio?
    NO, ilang KG lang ba ang 3 tao vs. the car's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    If vios engine can carry 5 passenger smoothly and the concept car is 2 seater. Can we use the 3 passenger weight and be car body weight? To pass on power weight ratio?
    NO, ilang KG lang ba ang 3 tao vs. the car's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    We all know sports car is too expensive to own and too expensive to maintain.. Most filipino cant afford it.

    I have vision of good market on creating a sports car type of car like ferrari, lambo, but on small engine.. Yes, its not too fast as original but you will get the looks, comfort of sports car owner with less cost on maintenance and gas..

    Do you want to own a wide sports car on minimal cost on the unit and maintenance..

    Sino kaya ang kasa or nag aasemble ng car ang may same vision sa akin. who know pumatok ito at makita mo sa philippines ang mga sports car.
    Sports car body with a normal car engine?
    Yes. Just like the old MG, Triumph British sports cars of long ago.

    Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maclaren, Ford Mustang look-alike?
    NO! I prefer an original design.

    I suggest a modular platform where different sports car body types can be fitted:
    - minimalist cycle-fendered type (similar to Lotus 7 or Ariel Atom)
    - roadster (similar to Mazda Miata) or coupe
    - retro (1930s style)
    - off road (dune buggy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    it can't and it won't.
    not unless you can manufacture a sturdy-enough mustang-size body with the weight of a vios body, and still be cheap enough for your target population.
    yes, you can probably do it if you make it out of carbon fiber and other space-age material. but then, the cost will be so high.. bili na lang tayo ng genuine mustang, may sukli pa.

    the weight difference between the two cars is... 500 or 600 kg?
    Ito ba yan sir. Sample ang total weight ng body ng mustang e 1000kg.. Then ang vios body e 500kg? So even e lipat natin ang weight ng 3 passenger na around 150kg e kapos pa ng 350kg para parang 5 passenger ang dinadala ng engine ng vios?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    Ito ba yan sir. Sample ang total weight ng body ng mustang e 1000kg.. Then ang vios body e 500kg? So even e lipat natin ang weight ng 3 passenger na around 150kg e kapos pa ng 350kg para parang 5 passenger ang dinadala ng engine ng vios?
    errr..
    it's more like 1600 kg for the mustang, and 1000 kg for the vios.. a difference of 600 kg.
    at 70 kg per passenger, it's like asking the current vios to ferry the weight of 9 passengers (or isang dosenang sako ng bigas) in addition to its own body weight, then add several passengers more as its regular pasaheros..
    yes, gagalaw kung gagalaw, but it won't accelerate fast enough, which is what the original question was asking. it might not even be strong enough to climb up quiapo bridge.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 11th, 2015 at 05:40 PM.

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    Naalala ko tuloy kapitbahay namin dati na naka Ford Expedition pero Isuzu ang makina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonski View Post
    Naalala ko tuloy kapitbahay namin dati na naka Ford Expedition pero Isuzu ang makina.
    yung dad ng barkada ko, yung mustang (iirc 1950's) nilagyan ng ford telstar na makina kasi di na magawa yung orignal engine. tumatakbo naman kami kahit 7 nakasakay. nga lang max speed yata 60kph

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonski View Post
    Naalala ko tuloy kapitbahay namin dati na naka Ford Expedition pero Isuzu ang makina.

    I am planning to do this sa F150, F150 that costs around PhP 150k, 99 model, lalagyan ng 4FH1 na makina.

    Wala ako makita na issue, para hindi gawin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Sports car body with a normal car engine?
    Yes. Just like the old MG, Triumph British sports cars of long ago.

    Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maclaren, Ford Mustang look-alike?
    NO! I prefer an original design.

    I suggest a modular platform where different sports car body types can be fitted:
    - minimalist cycle-fendered type (similar to Lotus 7 or Ariel Atom)
    - roadster (similar to Mazda Miata) or coupe
    - retro (1930s style)
    - off road (dune buggy)
    I preffer original design sir.. But it must be in category of sports car design. It will stand out like mustang, ferrari, lambo..

    Its like you have a sports car with small engine. Not too pass. Not too expensive..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    NO, ilang KG lang ba ang 3 tao vs. the car's body.

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    NO, ilang KG lang ba ang 3 tao vs. the car's body.


    Sample ang total weight ng body ng mustang e 1000kg.. Then ang vios body e 500kg? So even e lipat natin ang weight ng 3 passenger na around 150kg e kapos pa ng 350kg para parang 5 passenger ang dinadala ng engine ng vios?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    errr..
    it's,bike 1600 kg for the mustang, and 1000 kg for the vios.. a difference of 600 kg.
    at 70 kg per passenger, it's like asking the current vios to ferry the weight of 9 passengers in addition to its own body weight, then add several passengers more as its regular pasaheros..
    yes, gagalaw kung gagalaw, but it won't accelerate fast enough, which is what the original question was asking. it might not even be strong enough to climb up quiapo bridge.
    Sir yung 1600 kg e no engine of mustang? or included.. Kasi kung isasama ang mustang engine sa weight e talagang mabigat yan sa laki ng makina..

    Sabihin natin nag dagdag ka lang 10 inch sa weight ng car at 12 inch sa lenght e almost 600 na agad ang binigat ng vios?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    Sir yung 1600 kg e no engine of mustang? or included.. Kasi kung isasama ang mustang engine sa weight e talagang mabigat yan sa laki ng makina..

    Sabihin natin nag dagdag ka lang 10 inch sa weight ng car at 12 inch sa lenght e almost 600 na agad ang binigat ng vios?
    shipping weight, i believe. the complete car. i just read it off a car magazine.

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