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  1. Join Date
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    Bakit mo naman nasabi na nabawasan ng pogi points?
    Eh mas maganda ngang news nyan kasi baka bumaba yung prices ng pyesa ng Honda...or pede na gamitin yung pyesa nito as replacemnets sa mga pyesa ng Honda..ano masama doon at ano nakakabawas ng pogi points doon?

    Hay naku mga tao nga naman huwag lang may di masabi...oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbo View Post
    Precisely.

    Kaya rip-off and CIIMO. Even if it is an "authorized copy". Accentuate on the copy. Are you sure that the quality of the build, the metallurgy and the materials place in that car is at par with the those of the Civic?

    Is it built with the same quality control as the Civic? Ang permission baka right to copy lang. What about the nitty-gritty of building it. Is it at par with the Civic quality. If it is, I might be mistaken, then it qualifies as a rebadge.

    The price may offer a clue. Anyway, sanay na tayo sa gaya. May-qualification pa nga "class A" imitation, etc...
    Just to be clear, I am not a Honda fan. Though I like their 8th Gen Civic (we have two, along with other car brands), it's not the reason for my reaction.

    Like you, China's wanton copying (no pun intended) of intellectual property is also a pet peeve of mine. But the Dongfeng-Honda deal is totally different. Dongfeng Honda is a 50-50 joint joint venture between the two companies of their respective names. Dongfeng Honda manufactures the Civic and CR-V (among others) for the Chinese market and has been doing so for several years already. The rebadge is something the two corporate bodies agreed on for purposes I may not be of authority to comment upon. Sufice to say, the Ciimo is not an infringement or a 'Class A' counterfeit. It's a true blue Civic in a Chinese brand name for the Chinese market.

    Don't be too quick to judge the Chinese. ;)

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQiaKm51ij0]DONGFENG HONDA CIIMO(CHINA,1,30s) - YouTube[/ame]

    Refs:
    Dongfeng Honda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Dongfeng-Honda Ciimo Brings Back Eighth Generation Civic | ChinaAutoWeb

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    toyota and daihatsu does rebadging all the time. take the avanza for an example. ford and mazda ganun din. nothing new really.

    if you are a business man, partnering with a local business man makes a whole lot of sense because of their knowledge on local market.

    if your a purist, thats a different story...

    just thinking... if the chinese was first with thr CIIMA design and honda rebadged this as a civic, will the reaction still be the same?

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    eto para sa mga Ciimo haters

    this is from Honda

    Honda Worldwide | April 23, 2012 "Dongfeng Honda Introduces the Originally Developed New Model CIIMO"

    Dongfeng Honda Introduces the Originally Developed New Model CIIMO

    BEIJING, China, April 23, 2012 - Dongfeng Honda Automobile Co., Ltd., an automobile production and sales joint venture of Honda in China, yesterday introduced its first originally developed model, "CIIMO," a new middle-class sedan developed by the Dongfeng Honda R&D Center specially for the Chinese market.

    Utilizing the platform of the 8th generation Civic, the CIIMO will feature a 1.8-liter engine with selection of automatic transmission (AT) and manual transmission (MT) models. The manufacturer's suggested retail price of CIIMO will start from 111,800 R.M.B. (approximately 1.44 million yen*). By introducing a new model originally developed by a joint venture company into the middle-class sedan segment, which is the largest segment in Chinese automobile market, Honda will continue strengthening its product lineup to better accommodate the preferences of Chinese customers.

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