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    Hi guys,

    I''m just new here, and a novice in terms of car talk. Please help me regarding to the pros and cons of cruze here in Philippines? I've seen some of the posted threads here, but i really would like to know if ok ba ang fuel consumption, and how about the parts if nasira, may available ba agad na parts here in Ph? Please help me to decide if is it worth buying.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Hi guys,

    I''m just new here, and a novice in terms of car talk. Please help me regarding to the pros and cons of cruze here in Philippines? I've seen some of the posted threads here, but i really would like to know if ok ba ang fuel consumption, and how about the parts if nasira, may available ba agad na parts here in Ph? Please help me to decide if is it worth buying.

    Thanks in advance!


    Here is my two cents on the Chevy Cruze.

    The Cruze, as far as the car is concerned, is a good vehicle. Relatively affordable and includes some accessories you normally don't see at this price level yet. Ride is soft and comfortable. Definitely not a sports car, more of a long distance cruiser.

    The 1.8L engine is just good enough for it's weight. The A/T tranny results in a rather sluggish acceleration while the M/T variant is fairly quick, as quick as the Civic 1.8S (which has the same power & weight as the Cruze).

    Fuel economy is rated at 10.75km/L by the manufacturer and actual test results are 8.36km/L for the Cruze 6-speed A/T. The Cruze M/T is rated 14.75km/L by the manufacturer, no actual test results are available for the Cruze 5-speed M/T.


    The problem with the Cruze is not the car but the brand it carries which is Chevy. It has a history in the Philippines that mostly speaks of expensive parts & labor. Also in there is the common knowledge that parts has a high chance of not being available and you will need to wait weeks if you will order for it (aside from paying a deposit for it).

    The current "new" management of Chevy has promised that it will change all that but from the reports of some Chevy Cruze owners, it might be that more things change the more things remain the same.

    The only positive news it seems is Chevy Pasig, which is relatively active in trying to help Chevy car owners in tsikot.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Here is my two cents on the Chevy Cruze.

    The Cruze, as far as the car is concerned, is a good vehicle. Relatively affordable and includes some accessories you normally don't see at this price level yet. Ride is soft and comfortable. Definitely not a sports car, more of a long distance cruiser.

    The 1.8L engine is just good enough for it's weight. The A/T tranny results in a rather sluggish acceleration while the M/T variant is fairly quick, as quick as the Civic 1.8S (which has the same power & weight as the Cruze).

    Fuel economy is rated at 10.75km/L by the manufacturer and actual test results are 8.36km/L for the Cruze 6-speed A/T. The Cruze M/T is rated 14.75km/L by the manufacturer, no actual test results are available for the Cruze 5-speed M/T.


    The problem with the Cruze is not the car but the brand it carries which is Chevy. It has a history in the Philippines that mostly speaks of expensive parts & labor. Also in there is the common knowledge that parts has a high chance of not being available and you will need to wait weeks if you will order for it (aside from paying a deposit for it).

    The current "new" management of Chevy has promised that it will change all that but from the reports of some Chevy Cruze owners, it might be that more things change the more things remain the same.

    The only positive news it seems is Chevy Pasig, which is relatively active in trying to help Chevy car owners in tsikot.com.
    Thank you for your reply. Is 14.75km/L for the Cruze M/T good enough? And why there is a difference between the actual and manufacturer results? sorry if noob question here.

    Basically my problem is the available parts just in case there is something wrong with the vehicle. My brother also gave me an advice that it could take months just to wait for the replacement of the said parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Thank you for your reply. Is 14.75km/L for the Cruze M/T good enough? And why there is a difference between the actual and manufacturer results? sorry if noob question here.
    The difference between manufacturer and actual testing for the fuel economy is because actual fuel consumption is very dependent on factors like driver habits, road type (uphill, downhill, curves, rough, smooth), traffic conditions (amount of stop & go for a given distance), etc.

    Manufacturer specs might be closer to certain countries where they are based or have bigger markets. Example, in the USA.


    Basically my problem is the available parts just in case there is something wrong with the vehicle. My brother also gave me an advice that it could take months just to wait for the replacement of the said parts.
    Currently that is the gamble have to take if you are going to buy this car. You are going to take the chance that Chevy Philippines have changed for the better in regards to availability of parts, parts pricing and labor charges.

    If you do not want to take that chance, you might want to change your choice of car to something else.

    Example:

    Mitsubishi Lancer EX with an all-new 2.0-liter engine. Excellently built and impressively speced, the Lancer EX is the car to have if you're after something sporty.

    Fuel consumption: (km/L)
    5M/T : 10.62 (mfg.) 9.83 (test)
    CVT 6A/T: 10.20 (mfg.) 9.01 (test)

    Although tests only gets 9.01km/L, some owners do get 10 to 13km/L if they drive through highways and expressways.

    Mitsubishi Lancer EX Pricing:


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    I have never driven a Chevy Cruze. However, I own a 9 year old chevy. Parts are expensive and hard to find compared to Jap and Korean brands. There are very few parts suppliers aside from the dealer. Best place to buy parts is Thunder. They actually supply parts to the casa.

    Unless the new distributor can turn things around, I would stick with Korean or Jap brands. More parts and more mechanics.

    Also, Chevy has really low resale value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by userfriendly View Post
    I have never driven a Chevy Cruze. However, I own a 9 year old chevy. Parts are expensive and hard to find compared to Jap and Korean brands. There are very few parts suppliers aside from the dealer. Best place to buy parts is Thunder. They actually supply parts to the casa.

    Unless the new distributor can turn things around, I would stick with Korean or Jap brands. More parts and more mechanics.

    Also, Chevy has really low resale value.
    Hi, that is also one of my concern, the resale value. I'm really thinking if I'll push through on buying this car, other option I have is the Honda City 1.3S MT. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Hi, that is also one of my concern, the resale value. I'm really thinking if I'll push through on buying this car, other option I have is the Honda City 1.3S MT. What do you think?

    You can have your choice of the Jazz and City 1.5L variants since the fuel consumption for the 1.3L vs the 1.5L is not that much different. Plus the 1.5L gives you more goodies with the car, example like in the Jazz: better looking wheels, electric-folding side mirrors.

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    Hi, that is also one of my concern, the resale value. I'm really thinking if I'll push through on buying this car, other option I have is the Honda City 1.3S MT. What do you think?

    The same situation with my last October, 2010. Torn between Cruze or City 1.5E. But at the end, I decided to get the Honday City 1.5E because of Reliability, Parts availability/price and Resale Value. Also, read the story of ResidentEvil, one of cruze owner who had an accident. It takes months (not sure how long na) to repair his car due to parts availability. Not sure kung nakuha na nya yung unit nya.

    Anyway, cruze is a good card. But sabi nga ng friend ko "Hindi biro biro ang pera na gagastusin mo, ok lang kung cellphone or TV yan na ok lang magpalit pagnagkamali ka" Doon ka na sa subok at sigurado HTH

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    Actually, my dad is in the same boat with you. I and my dad saw the Cruze in display at SM Megamall one time. We've checked that and both of us came impressed. Especially the midlevel variant (LS MT) has the features that the Honda Civic (V, MT) doesn't at the same price (P850.000 for Civic, with discount).. My Mom even liked it


    BUT....

    One thing we worried about, RESALE VALUE....

    So, if you're getting the Cruze and planning to keep it for a long time, worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    You can have your choice of the Jazz and City 1.5L variants since the fuel consumption for the 1.3L vs the 1.5L is not that much different. Plus the 1.5L gives you more goodies with the car, example like in the Jazz: better looking wheels, electric-folding side mirrors.
    Hi, thank you for bringing up other option aside from City and Cruze, greatly appreciated. I'm not a sporty type of person, when it comes to car. That's why I didn't consider Jazz as an option for me. To be honest, I really love the interior of Cruze, that's why I'm having trouble to decide which is which.

    Quote Originally Posted by dagulmuroami View Post
    The same situation with my last October, 2010. Torn between Cruze or City 1.5E. But at the end, I decided to get the Honday City 1.5E because of Reliability, Parts availability/price and Resale Value. Also, read the story of ResidentEvil, one of cruze owner who had an accident. It takes months (not sure how long na) to repair his car due to parts availability. Not sure kung nakuha na nya yung unit nya.

    Anyway, cruze is a good card. But sabi nga ng friend ko "Hindi biro biro ang pera na gagastusin mo, ok lang kung cellphone or TV yan na ok lang magpalit pagnagkamali ka" Doon ka na sa subok at sigurado HTH
    hmmmm. Napaisip nanaman ako. Why Chevy has a Low resale value? is it only because of the availability and the price of the parts?

    Quote Originally Posted by myk384 View Post
    Actually, my dad is in the same boat with you. I and my dad saw the Cruze in display at SM Megamall one time. We've checked that and both of us came impressed. Especially the midlevel variant (LS MT) has the features that the Honda Civic (V, MT) doesn't at the same price (P850.000 for Civic, with discount).. My Mom even liked it


    BUT....

    One thing we worried about, RESALE VALUE....

    So, if you're getting the Cruze and planning to keep it for a long time, worth it.
    Hi! So what is the decision of you and your dad? ibang car nalang? I'm planning to keep it maybe 5-10yrs in time. But it still depends. Do you think it's worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Hi, thank you for bringing up other option aside from City and Cruze, greatly appreciated. I'm not a sporty type of person, when it comes to car. That's why I didn't consider Jazz as an option for me. To be honest, I really love the interior of Cruze, that's why I'm having trouble to decide which is which.

    Not sporty, extra power for maneuvering or overtaking. It is handy when you have that option.

    Jazz is a more flexible car. Not really sporty but that is one other selling point. The rear storage is much bigger and flexible in what you can carry inside the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Hi, that is also one of my concern, the resale value. I'm really thinking if I'll push through on buying this car, other option I have is the Honda City 1.3S MT. What do you think?
    i dont think about resale value when i'm buying a car. as long as the car has served me and has satisfied my wants then resale is secondary. i was considering cruze but i read that its aircon has problems so it didnt interest me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mataraki View Post
    i dont think about resale value when i'm buying a car. as long as the car has served me and has satisfied my wants then resale is secondary. i was considering cruze but i read that its aircon has problems so it didnt interest me anymore.
    what aircon problems? never experienced any aircon problems ever since i got the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Like I have said, the Cruze's problem is not the car, the problem is the brand behind the car.
    Ah okay, so its the brand (chevrolet) that you dont like it's not the Cruze. Let's be specific kasi we usually buy cars on performance and specs, not necessarily the brand behind it. anyhow, it's your personal preference (brand). definitely i will not argue on your preference.

    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    *av8or5

    Yeah the Cruze is a global car... I don't like the brand though, Chevy and GM (bankrupt Government Motors still majority owned by the US taxpayer)... Doesn't mean its a global car I would automatically like it. Sure in terms of safety its excellent. Reputation and service kaya, excellent din?
    Noted sir, your another brand conscience person/tsikoteer. Yeah, muntik na nga ma bail out ang Ford, good thing they were able to do something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by mataraki View Post
    i dont think about resale value when i'm buying a car. as long as the car has served me and has satisfied my wants then resale is secondary. i was considering cruze but i read that its aircon has problems so it didnt interest me anymore.
    I don't think meron aircon problem ang Cruze. It might not be as cold as Nissan, but Problems, this i have to argue on. The smell that comes in from outside even if under recirculation mode, its just an added safety to control the bad gases, but because our country is polluted, the smell from the outside is not so inviting. lol.

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    Noted sir, your another brand conscience person/tsikoteer. Yeah, muntik na nga ma bail out ang Ford, good thing they were able to do something else.
    Not exactly brand conscious, the problem kasi is the history of Chevy locally... Heard of the Optra? Expensive parts, delayed parts, bad quality, bad dealer service... So its too risky at this point to know for sure if they have improved for the better... If they do improve maybe we can consider them in the next generation, but I am skipping this generation after the mess that is the Optra...

    And Ford was never close from going bust since they had the financial cushion necessary even after the fallout that the other two didn't have or was not prepared for. Let's just say Ford have a genius driver named Alan Mulally and GM had a substandard driver named Rick Wagoner during the crisis...

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    I don't think meron aircon problem ang Cruze. It might not be as cold as Nissan, but Problems, this i have to argue on. The smell that comes in from outside even if under recirculation mode, its just an added safety to control the bad gases, but because our country is polluted, the smell from the outside is not so inviting. lol.[/QUOTE]

    Hello mga Sirs,
    Cruze 2012 owner po ako dito sa Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. OFW po, currently connected Pepsi Riyadh. Marami po sa amin kumuha ng Cruze since our Company is also the number 1 distributor ng GM/Chevrolet dito sa Saudi. Totoo po yung "smell that comes from the outside" at na ireklamo narin namin dun sa mga Pinoy na mekaniko din. Yan po talaga ang problema ng Cruze, ang sabi po eh may 20% na hindi naka close fully even under recirculation mode mo sya dahil lahat daw ng GM at Chevy brand na "SAFE" kahit matulog ka sa loob na naka "On" ang aircon. 'Yun ang paliwanag ng supervisor sa Quick Service nila. Masaya po kami dito na Cruze ang gamit namin, halos lahat kami A/T ang gamit dahil sa traffic condition din ang reason. One good thing dito sa Saudi is available po halos lahat ng spare parts ng Chevrolet. Yan lang po ang ma share ko. Maraming salamat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mataraki View Post
    i dont think about resale value when i'm buying a car. as long as the car has served me and has satisfied my wants then resale is secondary. i was considering cruze but i read that its aircon has problems so it didnt interest me anymore.
    The aircon is not really a big problem, medyo nasanay lang kasi tayo sa mga japanese cars na malakas ang buga ng aircon. The Cruze aircon is just right na hindi mo na kailangang mag-jacket para hindi lamigin.

    What I did was >>> nag DIY ako, i bought this rubber tube foam and alluminum foil tape and wrapped the rubber tube portion of the aircon to prevent the heat from the engine from making it hot.

    So far so good. I had a #1 setting only from 6am to 9am then #2 setting if the temperature outside is getting hotter.

    As I have mentioned before, I have shortlisted other vehicles and test driven them but in the end, it was love at first sight for Cruze and I can proudly say that I own one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodmac View Post
    Hi guys,

    I''m just new here, and a novice in terms of car talk. Please help me regarding to the pros and cons of cruze here in Philippines? I've seen some of the posted threads here, but i really would like to know if ok ba ang fuel consumption, and how about the parts if nasira, may available ba agad na parts here in Ph? Please help me to decide if is it worth buying.

    Thanks in advance!
    I guess im the most unbiased person to answer your question. I have a Cruze LS A/T, bought mid December of 2010.

    Regarding the F/C, i would say, it is comparable to any 1.8 Liter engine in the compact size class. I would have hope for a better FC, but sadly i could say it averages 8km/liter.

    Regarding acceleration, its slow to accelerate, but within the midrange rpm, the car has more power. Because the car has good insulation, the low engine sound makes it feel that it accelerates slower. (That could be good and bad).

    The ride is nice, a balance of soft and firm suspension. The steering is light with good road feedback.

    Right now, regarding PMS, i think its an average pricing because PMS is every 10K km, unlike other vehicles PMS every 5K km. Regarding cost, my deal included free PMS for two years.

    Now with regards to aftersales, this is the most important. right now, I have an issue with my Cruze. For me, it's a factory defect. I've chatted and know other Cruze owners, so my issue is really isolated. Isolated means not all Cruze unit will have this defect. I even went further to research on my experience with my Cruze, even Global forums, my concern wasn't popular.

    Right now, I am holding my statement on how Chevrolet Philippines aftersales fair. I will post my feedback on aftersales, after my concern is finish. Tentative would be next week.

    Manufacturers defect can happen to any vehicles, but how the company takes care of it is very important. Let us see if the new management of Chevrolet Philippines (TCCI) has actually improved in taking care of their customers in terms of aftersales.

    Regarding resale value: Any new manufacturer new to the Philippines would always have low resale. It's how it does in the Philippines would change the value. For example, Hyundai came here years back, their cars sucks bigtime, resale value is really bad. But perception change with new and better models, now, their resale is getting better. Chevrolet and Ford are also in this boat. Sooner or later, they will have better resale value if they continue to bring in good looking models with good reliability.

    HTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or5 View Post
    I guess im the most unbiased person to answer your question. I have a Cruze LS A/T, bought mid December of 2010.

    Regarding the F/C, i would say, it is comparable to any 1.8 Liter engine in the compact size class. I would have hope for a better FC, but sadly i could say it averages 8km/liter.

    Regarding acceleration, its slow to accelerate, but within the midrange rpm, the car has more power. Because the car has good insulation, the low engine sound makes it feel that it accelerates slower. (That could be good and bad).

    The ride is nice, a balance of soft and firm suspension. The steering is light with good road feedback.

    Right now, regarding PMS, i think its an average pricing because PMS is every 10K km, unlike other vehicles PMS every 5K km. Regarding cost, my deal included free PMS for two years.

    Now with regards to aftersales, this is the most important. right now, I have an issue with my Cruze. For me, it's a factory defect. I've chatted and know other Cruze owners, so my issue is really isolated. Isolated means not all Cruze unit will have this defect. I even went further to research on my experience with my Cruze, even Global forums, my concern wasn't popular.

    Right now, I am holding my statement on how Chevrolet Philippines aftersales fair. I will post my feedback on aftersales, after my concern is finish. Tentative would be next week.

    Manufacturers defect can happen to any vehicles, but how the company takes care of it is very important. Let us see if the new management of Chevrolet Philippines (TCCI) has actually improved in taking care of their customers in terms of aftersales.

    Regarding resale value: Any new manufacturer new to the Philippines would always have low resale. It's how it does in the Philippines would change the value. For example, Hyundai came here years back, their cars sucks bigtime, resale value is really bad. But perception change with new and better models, now, their resale is getting better. Chevrolet and Ford are also in this boat. Sooner or later, they will have better resale value if they continue to bring in good looking models with good reliability.

    HTH.
    I'll wait for your feedback on after sales. Thank you. Somehow it enlightens me on the things i need to consider first before buying a Chevy, but even so, i still can't decide if i'll pursue on this one. waaaaaa!!! haha

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    *rodmac Decided na kami with the Honda Civic, dream car ng dad ko yun since 2006

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