"GM Halts Chevy Volt Production Because Sales Suck"

[uls]

coz man has beaten natural methods of population control -- famine, disease etc... man is no longer at nature's mercy

now you have billions of people alive and breeding that shouldnt be alive and breeding if left to nature's mercy

and here's the thing -- those billions of people all want to live like Americans (fastfood, SUVs)

as standard of living rises people consume more stuff (which means more stuff has to be made by factories that pollute)

people wanna acquire automobiles. even if only 10% of the 1.3 billion Chinese buy automobiles in the next 5 years that's 130 million automobiles added on top of the number of automobiles already out there (can oil producers supply the demand for oil?)

and as people move up from poverty they eat more meat -- so you have to produce livestock by the billions which produce lots of methane

HowStuffWorks "Do cows pollute as much as cars?"

Cows emit a massive amount of methane through belching, with a lesser amount through flatulence. Statistics vary regarding how much methane the average dairy cow expels. Some experts say 100 liters to 200 liters a day (or about 26 gallons to about 53 gallons), while others say it's up to 500 liters (about 132 gallons) a day. In any case, that's a lot of methane, an amount comparable to the pollution produced by a car in a day.

To understand why cows produce methane, it's important to know a bit more about how they work. Cows, goats, sheep and several other animals belong to a class of animals called ruminants. Ruminants have four stomachs and digest their food in their stomachs instead of in their intestines, as humans do. Ruminants eat food, regurgitate it as cud and eat it again. The stomachs are filled with bacteria that aid in digestion, but also produce methane.

(so environmentalists, do you eat burgers? bet you never thought of that. ang attention niyo kasi nasa cars lang)

basically my point is this is a runaway train

like niky said, you have to bring down human population to bring back man-nature balance

but since man has conquered the natural methods of population control the only way to eliminate billions of people is mass extermination (which of course is unpopular)

[Ry_Tower]

Actually, the problem is, nobody wants to admit the truth. The only way to ensure the sustainable and long-term survival of the human species is to lower global population to well under a billion people.

The Church doesn't like the idea. Capitalists don't like the idea. (Capitalism is predicated on perpetual growth... which is not possible within a resource-constrained system) Socialists don't like the idea. (Stinks of Eugenics) Populists don't like the idea.

Nobody will agree to not have children, or to have only one child for every six or seven couples.

The human race is primed to self-destruct. We stop breeding when we are well fed. We breed like rabbits when we starve. The natural forms of population control don't work in our case because we're smarter than nature.

That is why developed countries have very low to negative population growth!

UNFPA - FACT SHEET: Population Growth and Poverty - lower fertility leads to lower poverty.

[uls]

and for those who will say "the Chinese can buy electric cars"

"they have BYD making electric cars... Warren Buffett is an investor in BYD"

whatever

eto sagot ko:

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/epap...t_12504535.htm

BYD's worst nightmare came true last year.

BYD, which stands for Build Your Dream, is known as the pioneer of electric vehicles in China. The company had high expectations for the F3DM and had hoped to sell up to 1,000 units.

Even combined with an incentive backed by the central government, the company sold fewer than 500 electric cars in 2010. The F3DM can switch between hybrid electric and electric modes, and can be charged at home using a 220v outlet.

China total vehicle sales 18.5 million units last year. how many electric cars is that? probably less than a thousand

[Monseratto]

That is why developed countries have very low to negative population growth!

UNFPA - FACT SHEET: Population Growth and Poverty - lower fertility leads to lower poverty.

If people are occupied with work in order to survive, having babies is not a priority.

[uls]

less educated people breed like rabbits coz they act on animal instinct. they have little self control. they don't think about consequences

educated people don't breed like rabbits coz they have more self control. they think about consequences

[Ry_Tower]

If people are occupied with work in order to survive, having babies is not a priority.

Kaya nga karamihan ng maperang tourist dito sa amin eh couples na mga 35-45 yrs old tapos walang anak.

Yan ang namimili ng south sea pearls (necklace, bracelets at hindi lang earrings) na hindi tumatawad! hehe

[cripple_rooster]

I'd rather get an Aveo over a Volt. BTW what the tree-huggers conveniently forget when they talk about the miracles of electric drive is the batteries generate a lot of pollution to be manufactured. Also they're quite expensive to replace after 5 or 10 years...

[niky]

The pollution inherent in making lithium ion or lithium polymer battery equipped cars isn't huge. That claim was for the nickel metal hydrides... and that was in relation to older mining methods which are no longer used.

[GSHME]

Oil companies have brought out all the companies making High tech batteries in the past. The Volt cost USA taxpayers 250K each in subsidies to the car company, the batteries explode and have to be replace which is another huge cost for the buyer, as fuel is set to double soon people will just drive less.

[niky]

The subsidies aren't at 250k, they're not even a subsidy, just a 7.5k tax break. If you're talking about the loans, then that applies to all GM cars. As for battery exploding? That's a myth. That's only happened to batteries used in crash tests... Weeks after the crash... And the crash tests total the car, so the battery isn't the only thing needing replacement.