Starting a Small Palay Buy and Sell Business

[cristian ZDN]

From my experience mas efficient ang electric at walang ingay at konti maintenance.

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Sir can you share the specs of your electric? How much po ung installation? Kailangan pa yan ng Transformer diba? How much po lahat sir?
Thank you

[lowslowbenz]

Yung katabing farm namin sa Negros, meron "Satake" brand na single pass rice mill, it is being driven by a 4DR5 Mitsubishi engine.

Meron din sila yung luma style "de cono" na puro kahoy (I'm pretty sure you guys know what Im talking about), it is powered by a single cylinder Blackstone diesel.

[joaquim]

Sir can you share the specs of your electric? How much po ung installation? Kailangan pa yan ng Transformer diba? How much po lahat sir?
Thank you

Naku sir no idea na ngayon sa mga prices better ask your local utility provider.

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[cristian ZDN]

Yung katabing farm namin sa Negros, meron "Satake" brand na single pass rice mill, it is being driven by a 4DR5 Mitsubishi engine.

Meron din sila yung luma style "de cono" na puro kahoy (I'm pretty sure you guys know what Im talking about), it is powered by a single cylinder Blackstone diesel.

Yes Sir familiar ako dyan. Base from your observation sir, Did they sustain?
Medu maingay po ba from your distance po?

Thank you for sharing.

[joaquim]

Yung katabing farm namin sa Negros, meron "Satake" brand na single pass rice mill, it is being driven by a 4DR5 Mitsubishi engine.

Meron din sila yung luma style "de cono" na puro kahoy (I'm pretty sure you guys know what Im talking about), it is powered by a single cylinder Blackstone diesel.

Satake brand is a good brand Abcede i think they are one of the pioneer ng single pass dito sa atin.

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[lowslowbenz]

Yes Sir familiar ako dyan. Base from your observation sir, Did they sustain?
Medu maingay po ba from your distance po?

Thank you for sharing.

Yes, both are still in operation. There are some customers who prefer their palay being milled by the Satake, while meron din ibang customer na ang preference nila is ang "de-cono"

I do not think its that noisy, medyo malayo sila sa amin actually.

[joaquim]

A quick study i did before, yung single pass has a recovery ratio of 50-52kilos for every 100 kilos of palay. With multi pass(big Ricemills) the recovery is around 63 - 65 kilos of rice per 100 kilos of palay.

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[111prez]

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[lowslowbenz]

^^

Yes, the multi-pass rice mill or the older wooden de-cono types are more forgiving (gentler) on palay that has a bit of moisture left.

Yung one pass rice mill, durog agad ang palay.

[cristian ZDN]

It's a bit Risk of Investment but i still try, base from what i have now i will slowly adjust or some kind of fine tuning to maximize things. Looking forward for any upgrade and modernization.
But for now i will start with this. whole/broken rice doesn't matter as long as it is white rice and those low-middle people are my target, i will be selling it as an affordable to anyone but still the profit is there. Attachment 35068

[palaybigasan]

Thank you for Your Share Sir ErDie,
Bodega(12m x 10m x4mh) will be constructed by next month hopefully, may bilaran nadin galing sa Pamana Organization which is nasa lupa namin, sabi ng PAMANA priority na magbilad ng palay ay ung nag pahiram ng lupa sa kanila for 20 years, after 20 yrs ung bilaran ay magiging sa amin na. So kaya i took the advantage of building a bodega dahil may Bilaran na, so pwede na un dahil priority naman kami na may ari ng lupa na magbilad ng Palay : )

Opo yan ang balak ko, buy sacks of palay galing sa anihan then patuyuin then stock muna sa bodega after sometime deal to palengke then milled it. siguro dahil sa baguhan palang i would sell it small higher than the time na binili ko sa anihan.
Sir more likely how do you pay the prson who works for you? halimbawa sa pagbilad ng palay as pagbuhat? per sack ba bayad mo?how much naman po? saan ako makakatipid sa cavan or per sack?

Sir can you share how to compute if bibili ako ng sariwang palay mga palagay natin 100sacks at 44kls per Sack at 17pesos per kilo? how much will it cost per kilo after mabilad po?

Maraming Salamat

100 sacks x 44kg per sacks x 17 pesos per kilo =74800 cost
upang bilad 100 x 10 =1000
food for your laborer 4 person 300 pesos =200
transportation estimate cost 100x10 =1000
total cost =77000 total capital

lets say sariwa palay mo umatras ng 4 per sacks 100x 4= 400kilos
4400-400 kilos =4000 kilos

77000/4000=19.25 pesos per kilo puhunan mo
kung bibigasin mo naman kung 65 % recovery and let say 65 pesos per sacks ang milling fee

4000kg x0.65 =2600 kilos /50 =52 bags of rice * 50 kilos per bag

52 bags x 65 pesos=3380
77000 + 3380=80380 /52 =1545 pesos per sacks kung 1800 benta mo isang bulot ng bigas 255 peso ka per sacks plus pagbibilan pa ng darak mo income mo yon

sana malinaw paliwanag ko po good luck sa bisnis

[cristian ZDN]

Hello,

Just an Update.
Blessing and Padugo is already done : )

Apparatus is already running.

Thanks for all the input.

See attached Image

60.9% Recovery, hopefully we can find the most setting it could be to maximize the efficiency.

[cristian ZDN]

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[palaybigasan]

MArami din po ang di maganda kodisyun sa subic since mga recon lang din sila, always bring your trusted mechanic. In our case mostly second hand lang din my isa galing sa subic na good condition. Currently nag sipag mahalan po ang mga truck, elf na 350k na maayus thats super good buy. Kasi mga elf ngayun nag range na sila from 550k above.


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Bumili na lang po kayo ng truck sa tao or sa mga dating namimili ng palay ready to used na yon bilin nyo yong walang computer box ng madali maintenace po

[cristian ZDN]

Bumili na lang po kayo ng truck sa tao or sa mga dating namimili ng palay ready to used na yon bilin nyo yong walang computer box ng madali maintenace po

Thank you Sir.

Foton dropside brandnew with warranty versus 2nd hand (100k+ ODO) with the same price ranging 600-800k.

Maybe FOton would be the best choice I Think.

Your thoughts po?

maraming Salamat.

[cristian ZDN]

100 sacks x 44kg per sacks x 17 pesos per kilo =74800 cost
upang bilad 100 x 10 =1000
food for your laborer 4 person 300 pesos =200
transportation estimate cost 100x10 =1000
total cost =77000 total capital

lets say sariwa palay mo umatras ng 4 per sacks 100x 4= 400kilos
4400-400 kilos =4000 kilos

77000/4000=19.25 pesos per kilo puhunan mo
kung bibigasin mo naman kung 65 % recovery and let say 65 pesos per sacks ang milling fee

4000kg x0.65 =2600 kilos /50 =52 bags of rice * 50 kilos per bag

52 bags x 65 pesos=3380
77000 + 3380=80380 /52 =1545 pesos per sacks kung 1800 benta mo isang bulot ng bigas 255 peso ka per sacks plus pagbibilan pa ng darak mo income mo yon

sana malinaw paliwanag ko po good luck sa bisnis

Maraming Salamat Po Sir.

Malinaw po at naintindihan ko ung computation.

[erdiedizon]

Thank you Sir.

Foton dropside brandnew with warranty versus 2nd hand (100k+ ODO) with the same price ranging 600-800k.

Maybe FOton would be the best choice I Think.

Your thoughts po?

maraming Salamat.

Brand new is always a good one, but in future once repairs are need to be done im just worried of parts availability? Vs japanese brand trucks parts are mostly available. By the way you can read sa foton forums para mas may idea. Sa mga second hand trucks naman mostly din not true yung sa mileage nila, lahat yata ng truck namin di umaandar mga speedometer eh. Hehe


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[cristian ZDN]

Brand new is always a good one, but in future once repairs are need to be done im just worried of parts availability? Vs japanese brand trucks parts are mostly available. By the way you can read sa foton forums para mas may idea. Sa mga second hand trucks naman mostly din not true yung sa mileage nila, lahat yata ng truck namin di umaandar mga speedometer eh. Hehe


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Hello Sir Erdie : ) kumusta po?

Sabi nila ung spareparts ng FOTON ay halos same sa ISUZU. I'm not sure. tingnan ko nlang sooner.

Sir Erdie, sa ngaun naka 30hp Diesel engine ako and good thing tumatakbo kahit walang kuryente.

Single Pass machine ang nabili ko and ranging 59-62% recovery but most of the time nasa 61% recovery, ok na po ano?

Sir, if maglagay ako ng provision of Electricity using 15KW motor or 22-24HP motor, ano ano kailangan ko? do i need a transformer? ilang KVA po? 2phase supply lang ang province namin.

Maraming Salamat Sir Erdie.

[erdiedizon]

Hello Sir Erdie : ) kumusta po?

Sabi nila ung spareparts ng FOTON ay halos same sa ISUZU. I'm not sure. tingnan ko nlang sooner.

Sir Erdie, sa ngaun naka 30hp Diesel engine ako and good thing tumatakbo kahit walang kuryente.

Single Pass machine ang nabili ko and ranging 59-62% recovery but most of the time nasa 61% recovery, ok na po ano?

Sir, if maglagay ako ng provision of Electricity using 15KW motor or 22-24HP motor, ano ano kailangan ko? do i need a transformer? ilang KVA po? 2phase supply lang ang province namin.

Maraming Salamat Sir Erdie.

Hello, happy for you bro atlis nag start kana. Wala ako masyado knowledge power sa cono sir,hehe we sold our milling machine once upon a time pa but that was a big one also kubota yata or yanmar.
Regarding foton vehicles my nabasa din ako na ang parts nila e similar sa isuzu, but thats not an assurance bro, better ask around sa mga my ganung trucks sa lugar ninyo para no regrets.


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[lowslowbenz]

Congratulations on the new business venture ....