Starting a Small Palay Buy and Sell Business

[n_spinner06]

Hi! I intend to put up a solar drier within the year with my aunt for our own use and maybe rent it out. Maybe expand to buy and sell later on but it is ways off. We already have a bodega but is very limited. 100-150 sacks lang i think capacity nun primarily to store harvest from our family's field. So not much. We have idle land so the intention is to put up a solar drier. What do you think is the minimum size for starters...sqm per sack? Also how thick do you need the concrete to be..enough to allow trikes over it when hauling in/out the produce? Thanks!

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[erdiedizon]

Hi! I intend to put up a solar drier within the year with my aunt for our own use and maybe rent it out. Maybe expand to buy and sell later on but it is ways off. We already have a bodega but is very limited. 100-150 sacks lang i think capacity nun primarily to store harvest from our family's field. So not much. We have idle land so the intention is to put up a solar drier. What do you think is the minimum size for starters...sqm per sack? Also how thick do you need the concrete to be..enough to allow trikes over it when hauling in/out the produce? Thanks!

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My idea in for solar drier of course the bigger the better, in future u might expand as business no regrets diba? I have no exact idea how thick our solar drier haha sorry for that, but i also think the thicker the better, dont think about trikes, think about trucks na pag nag load na sila if the concrete is thin then its wont last. Ours already thick pero marami parts nadin ang repair this few years dahil sa mga truck namin.


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[n_spinner06]

Sir, the access road includes a small bridge and light vehicles lang kaya. Up to a pick.up truck lang at most...kaya realistically i'm considering trikes lang muna. But i get your point, foresight and thinking big. Salamat sa input sir!

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[mina_nuka]

When you construct a slab for grain sun drying, consider these factors:
A. Lay 6 mil polyethylene plastic vapor barrier on compacted soil or ground,
B. Use 10 mm reinforcing steel bars at 16 inches on center intervals both lengthwise and crosswise.
C. On top of the rebars lay wire mesh of 2inch.
D. Reinforce the edges by at least double the thickness of the slab with same width ( edge)
E. Concrete at its thinnest should not be less than 4"" with the reinforcement bars and wire mesh in the middle.
F. Slope each section at 1/2 inch per foot of width ( for rain drain.
G. Tarpaulin to cover the drying/dried grains should cover to about about a foot less than the width valley to valley.
The tarp is a precautionary measure in case the rain starts to Dro and you don't have enough time or manpower to bag the grains.

[mina_nuka]

Concrete minimum strength at 2500 psi compressive strength

[n_spinner06]

When you construct a slab for grain sun drying, consider these factors:
A. Lay 6 mil polyethylene plastic vapor barrier on compacted soil or ground,
B. Use 10 mm reinforcing steel bars at 16 inches on center intervals both lengthwise and crosswise.
C. On top of the rebars lay wire mesh of 2inch.
D. Reinforce the edges by at least double the thickness of the slab with same width ( edge)
E. Concrete at its thinnest should not be less than 4"" with the reinforcement bars and wire mesh in the middle.
F. Slope each section at 1/2 inch per foot of width ( for rain drain.
G. Tarpaulin to cover the drying/dried grains should cover to about about a foot less than the width valley to valley.
The tarp is a precautionary measure in case the rain starts to Dro and you don't have enough time or manpower to bag the grains.

Any estimate per sqm nito sir? Just a ballpark figure to estinate the cost of the project. Thanks!

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[mina_nuka]

Sorry, I haven't built this in the country and I don't know how much the labor would be. Calculate how much materials are and canvass locally. Bear in mind reinforcing steel bar splice are at16" .

[mina_nuka]

Each cubic yard of mixed cement and aggregate makes approximately 80 square feet.

[joaquim]

When you construct a slab for grain sun drying, consider these factors:
A. Lay 6 mil polyethylene plastic vapor barrier on compacted soil or ground,
B. Use 10 mm reinforcing steel bars at 16 inches on center intervals both lengthwise and crosswise.
C. On top of the rebars lay wire mesh of 2inch.
D. Reinforce the edges by at least double the thickness of the slab with same width ( edge)
E. Concrete at its thinnest should not be less than 4"" with the reinforcement bars and wire mesh in the middle.
F. Slope each section at 1/2 inch per foot of width ( for rain drain.
G. Tarpaulin to cover the drying/dried grains should cover to about about a foot less than the width valley to valley.
The tarp is a precautionary measure in case the rain starts to Dro and you don't have enough time or manpower to bag the grains.

just a question why do you need to put a wire mesh when there is steel bars na? And baka hindi tumulo ang cement mixture sa wire mesh

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[mina_nuka]

just a question why do you need to put a wire mesh when there is steel bars na? And baka hindi tumulo ang cement mixture sa wire mesh

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Considering you do not use a vibratory compactor and considering how weak the cement mixtures in the country, it is an added strength to the reinforcement. You can, however omit this if you compact the ground where you plan of building the slab. If you make the concrete slab thicker, at 2500 psi compressive strength, it may support the weight of a two ton capacity truck without damage.

[pLF_20]

pajoin po planing palang po,.
bali ahente po kami ng palay at mais,.
pero completo na po mga permits namin,.so nagdidicide na kaming palakihin, may elf na rin po kami,.
solar drier lang wala,, la pa kasi kami lupa,,hehe
pero kung may mahanap kaming mura,. gagawa kami.,,

[joaquim]

Lagyan mo ng plastic yung flooring bago mo buhusan ng cement at lagyan mo rin ng ventilation with screen para hindi pasukin ng ibon and daga

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[cristian ZDN]

Lagyan mo ng plastic yung flooring bago mo buhusan ng cement at lagyan mo rin ng ventilation with screen para hindi pasukin ng ibon and daga

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Hello Sir,

Paano ung plastic muna bago iconcrete? anong klaseng plastic sir?
4" thickness ng concrete flooring with matting, my plan is to put a "tarima 4" din para magkaroon ng vintalation para maiwasan ang singaw or moisture.

screened ventilation - Opo Sir thank you.

[joaquim]

Before ginamit ko na recycle plastic na kasinlaki ng sako, saka nilagyan ng parilya. Para maiwasan o at least may proteksyon sa moisture and cold temperature ng lupa

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[joaquim]

Single pass? Go for proven at marami spare parts. Lagyan mo na din ng stoner

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[cristian ZDN]

Single pass? Go for proven at marami spare parts. Lagyan mo na din ng stoner

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Yes Sir, Single pass ata ang pinaka common na milling machine, pagmakarecover na siguro then unti unting upgrade nalang.
Diesel Engine plan kong kunin dahil unstable ang electric power sa amin, i dont know if mas tipid ba ang electric motor kaysa sa Diesel Engine motor.

[joaquim]

From my experience mas efficient ang electric at walang ingay at konti maintenance.

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[cristian ZDN]

From my experience mas efficient ang electric at walang ingay at konti maintenance.

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Sir can you share the specs of your electric? How much po ung installation? Kailangan pa yan ng Transformer diba? How much po lahat sir?
Thank you

[joaquim]

Sir can you share the specs of your electric? How much po ung installation? Kailangan pa yan ng Transformer diba? How much po lahat sir?
Thank you

Naku sir no idea na ngayon sa mga prices better ask your local utility provider.

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[lowslowbenz]

Yung katabing farm namin sa Negros, meron "Satake" brand na single pass rice mill, it is being driven by a 4DR5 Mitsubishi engine.

Meron din sila yung luma style "de cono" na puro kahoy (I'm pretty sure you guys know what Im talking about), it is powered by a single cylinder Blackstone diesel.