Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

[jut703]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!




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[shadow]

Go! You don't have to think about it. Lapit lang ng OZ. My roommate's siblings are all in OZ. We go there probably every 2 years but they always do their sibling reunion every year in different counties. So I don't think the distance is a problem. Plus with the technlogies distance is non issue.

I want to share Sana experience ko about migrating to the US but that's a long story.

I don't want to go into details but long story short we have a much better lives here kesa doon. Although well have all the support plus lahat ng family members pwede sumama dahil It's on a business immigrant visa. Mas maganda pa rin dito.

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[chronicle]

Subscribing... Stayed in au for a couple of months and i can say mas mababait sila at mas tolerant sa race. If it is for the future, go for it. Ph is not getting any better anytime soon.

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[travajante]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!




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Go for it. Youth allows you that room for testing, adventure, error & reversibility. The window won't be open long. Free yourself from future whatcudabeen thinking.[emoji106]

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[Ry_Tower]

Kung ako sa position mo, I'll definitely go. Wala ka pa baby eh at bata ka pa, pwede ka pa lumaban ng sabayan kahit sa mga foreign counterparts mo imho.

Goodluck and God Bless on your choice.


Basta kapag mayaman ka na dito ka pa rin retire sa Pinas, dito mo gastusin pera mo ha. hehehe

[shadow]

Basta ang advice ko, whatever you decide on stick on it and don't look back and think of what might have been, could have been.


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[falken]

Go for it, the transition is easier when you don't have kids yet.

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[CVT]

Be certain that they will consider you as college graduate not trade school graduate, bro. So you may need to "go to school" for 2 more years there.

Also, 6 months of local work experience is typically required, which means volunteer work. So better, if Intercompany transfer

[mongze]

Go for it, the transition is easier when you don't have kids yet.

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+1 I tried working abroad (UAE) 2 years contract lang kasi di ko muna nirenew nirequest ng eldest daughter ko uwi ka na.

But ok sa OZ my cuz and tita are there naisama pa family kung noong araw ata madali pa mag migrate now may process na OZ skills select at IELTS etc.

kaya ang daming nagtayo ng immigration business/ consultants ;)

[erdiedizon]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!




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Hi Ts, Im living abroad with my family for more than a decade now. First 11 and half years in SIngapore then some changes makes us move here in AUstralia, we 2 kids both girls. In our case once we decided to migrate the thought of grass abroad is more greener.
To he honest its really more fun in the Philippines, my heart was always saying go home, lol
Its maybe just me, but a lot of pinoys once u have a good chat with them they feel same if they have the PUHUNAN to start a good negosyu they will give it a go.
Sometimes its really difficult to decide specially on your case looks either way you will do well bro, u stay in pinas or move here in down under. Kami we prefer here in down under vs singapore, life here is more laidback and time is a little bit slow. But again of course I still love Philippines.

Why not give it a try while still no kids, its more flexible to migrate while only u and fiance. My advice is always have your plan B, in case you and fiance wont like it u always have option. [emoji5]


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[mda]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!

While the grass can always seem greener over there, some quick thoughts lang din.

1. Cost of living much higher there. You earn more, maybe. Pero costs go up din.
2. Not sure about sa AUS pero WRT to the US, maraming kalokohan sa healthcare. Doctors sometimes prefer not to treat patients some patients na alanganin kasi baka ma sue ng malpractice. (Source: Friends who are doctors who considered moving abroad)
3. Also, demand for doctors abroad may be artificially stifled, sometimes hospitals prefer homegrown doctors. (have heard of this but w/o verifiable sources)
4. Culture - iba kultura / pag uugali ng mga tao dito sa Pilipinas. Sometimes especially in the US, umiiba mga values ng anak. This may or may not be a moot point for you. Sabi ng friend ko who lives in Belgium or one of the nearby countries, the people there are lazy since most gov't services are free, jobs are quite secure. Tuloy, people only do the bare minimum sa store. Pag humingi ka raw ng shirt size mo sa isang store, sasabihin nila basta yung nandun sa display, yun na.
5. If you're considering doing business, mas okay dito. Pag doon, the market is already saturated with big chains who can eat you alive. Actually, pag pinansin mo rito sa Pilipinas, the saturation is starting already. Few companies who own majority of the business - they have the scale for it.
Pag corporate forever, parang mas okay yata sa 1st world countries though.
6. PH is probably better to retire in

[EQAddict]

Go bro while you are young. Australia is definitely the place to be. And you can drive your dream cars as they are all affordable. More than that theres no traffic there and the destinations and driving roads are endless. Adventure for life.

With your combined talents you will definitely live the good life.



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[Wh1stl3r]

I know a family who has just relocated to NZ but is in the process of returning here. Nalulungkot daw sila. They also have friends there but maybe it's just not the same.

Every immigrant I know from here always mentions loneliness at some point. Maybe they miss all the gulo here hehe.

More than career opportunities, as talented as you are, I think a bigger concern for you is the network of friends and family, your support system there so to speak.

[yebo]

a word of caution on pinoy doctors working in australia. baka ma-frustrate ang gf mo kasi afaik pinoy doctors rarely work as doctors in au. karamihan they work as nurses or whatever field their pre-med course was (biologist, pharmacist, med tech). the info i got from our neighbor before was they keep changing the requirements for foreign educated/trained doctors so even if you work as a doctor in au now it is no guarantee you will be allowed to work as a doctor tomorrow. yan ang nangyari sa kanya, they hired him as an anaesthesiologist but now he is working as a nurse because they added requirements that involves him taking more than 1 year from work to earn. sabagay kung wala ka pa anak kaya naman kaso pag pamilyado ka na mahirapan ka.

[yebo]

+1 on the boredom. my friend living in au who was on vacation last month said that life in au is boring. di daw gaya sa pinas na madami pwedeng puntahan. puro pang selfie lang daw meron dun (ayers rock background, hohum!)

[travajante]

+1 on the boredom. my friend living in au who was on vacation last month said that life in au is boring. di daw gaya sa pinas na madami pwedeng puntahan. puro pang selfie lang daw meron dun (ayers rock background, hohum!)

Jut won't be bored there. Oz is an overlander's haven.[emoji4]
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[usong725]

Sa AUS nagtapos ng med proper at nag residency training yung GF nyo sir?

As far as i know, medyo mahirap maregister as MD duon kung hindi duon nagtapos at nagtraining.

Though pwede mag apply as 'recognized' specialist. Medyo matagal at mahal nga lang processing. Medical Board of Australia - International medical graduates (IMGs)

Maganda lipat duon kung hindi pa nya naestablish practice dito.

goodluck.

[jojopad]

+1 on the boredom. my friend living in au who was on vacation last month said that life in au is boring. di daw gaya sa pinas na madami pwedeng puntahan. puro pang selfie lang daw meron dun (ayers rock background, hohum!)

I stayed at Sydney for 6 mos and I find the laid back lifestyle not so boring. A walk to the park, clean air, a few drinks at the pub, an occasional baby back ribs somewhere at Darling Harbor. It's a simple lifestyle that some Pinoys will find boring, but for me it's a better place than the noisy smelly place like Metro Manila.

Would I want to migrate there? Sure! But I should have done that before I got kids. It's much riskier when you have a family to feed.

[Trippin]

I'm in the camp who says go for it.

It is already easier in your case if your fiance can just continue with her studies/specialization there, and you transfer in your AU office. A lot of other people needed to jump a hundred hoops just to migrate and start a life there.

With your personality and aptitude I don't think you'll be bored there, especially if you're in a city; too many places to go to and people to meet. You won't run out of new friends to run into, and new roads to conquer.

The family and friends part can be solved with connection through social media and or video calls. Most group of friends that I know are only excited to meet up when someone from abroad returns home for a visit, not for pasalubongs but for catching up.

A good number of my friends who I used to hang out with in Singapore moved to AU, and I can tell they very much enjoy it there. There's of course the occasional longing for pinoy food and company but that's normal and it fleets. Plus, if you start a family, you'd have no time for much else.

Unlike in Manila, there you won't have to deal with the crippling traffic, cancerous air pollution, the excessive crime rate, and a divisive and corrupt government. Unless you have established a good business that earns well (something that is harder to achieve in an industrialized country), there's not a lot of things going for in PH to justify the risks especially if you can avoid them, IMO.

Though rent, taxes, electricity, gadgets, and food prices there are relatively high, you two should have no problem managing.

I myself wanted to migrate but the wife is a bit too clingy with her family connections, but hopefully someday soon if we still can.

[12vdc]

Tanungin nyo mga immigrants kung saan nila gusto ilibing. Sagot nila lagi "sa Pinas parin".