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  1. Join Date
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    guys, ano ba ung SAP? san pwede mag-aral nito? gusto ko kasing matuto niyan. o kaya kung may links kayo sa mga tutorials niyan. wala kasi akong mahanap sa google. o baka mali lang ung mga keywords na gamit ko.

    TIA

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    Try this to browse from this link bro:

    www.sap.com

    SAP specialists are one of the highest paid IT profs these days...medyo may kamahalan nga lang yong bayad sa training....

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    Quote Originally Posted by delprado
    Try this to browse from this link bro:

    www.sap.com

    SAP specialists are one of the highest paid IT profs these days...medyo may kamahalan nga lang yong bayad sa training....
    Pardon my asking, but, how much does an SAP programmer make? And, what are the prerequisites before you can train as an SAP programmer? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by falken
    Pardon my asking, but, how much does an SAP programmer make? And, what are the prerequisites before you can train as an SAP programmer? Thanks!
    programmer? usually mga 30K & higher.

    yung mga functional consultants ang medyo highly-paid.

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    hmm.. you can start bugging mazdamazda .. hehehe

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    SAP -> Systems, Applications and Products in Data Processing

    Their main product is the R/3 which offers ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) solutions (the R/3) for large companies. Basically, this integrates all of the business process of a company. (e.g. a warehouseman posts the goods receipt of inventory, a corresponding accounting entry will be generated).

    Here's the division of the R/3:

    1. Functional
    1.a. Financial
    1.b. Logistics (this is my line of work)
    2. ABAP
    3. BASIS

    The Functional side is the one reviewing the business process, fitting it into the requirements of the company and basically configuring the system. This requires NO programming work whatsoever - you just have to "tweak" the setting of the system (which sounds easy but it isn't). Though under Financials & Logistics there are other "modules" which you can specialize in. Most consultants specialize in only one module. If you know more than one - you are one lucky dog (like me - hehe ;)).

    ABAP is the programming side - they come in when the Functional Team cannot anymore tweak the system (like for customized reports, etc).

    BASIS is the system administration aspect - they deal mainly with security, performance, upgrade, etc.

    Though lately - SAP has been branching into other products like Data Warehousing, Business Intelligence, Single Platfrom Compatiblity, Industry-Specific Solutions, etc.

    Training is being offered locally. A one-month certification course for a single module costs around P300K (though you have to pass the test). Though you can also learn SAP through experience (like what I did). Self-study is a bit tricky since you have to have access to the system (which can only be provided by a big-ass server).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    SAP -> Systems, Applications and Products in Data Processing

    Their main product is the R/3 which offers ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) solutions (the R/3) for large companies. Basically, this integrates all of the business process of a company. (e.g. a warehouseman posts the goods receipt of inventory, a corresponding accounting entry will be generated).

    Here's the division of the R/3:

    1. Functional
    1.a. Financial
    1.b. Logistics (this is my line of work)
    2. ABAP
    3. BASIS

    The Functional side is the one reviewing the business process, fitting it into the requirements of the company and basically configuring the system. This requires NO programming work whatsoever - you just have to "tweak" the setting of the system (which sounds easy but it isn't). Though under Financials & Logistics there are other "modules" which you can specialize in. Most consultants specialize in only one module. If you know more than one - you are one lucky dog (like me - hehe ;)).

    ABAP is the programming side - they come in when the Functional Team cannot anymore tweak the system (like for customized reports, etc).

    BASIS is the system administration aspect - they deal mainly with security, performance, upgrade, etc.

    Though lately - SAP has been branching into other products like Data Warehousing, Business Intelligence, Single Platfrom Compatiblity, Industry-Specific Solutions, etc.

    Training is being offered locally. A one-month certification course for a single module costs around P300K (though you have to pass the test). Though you can also learn SAP through experience (like what I did). Self-study is a bit tricky since you have to have access to the system (which can only be provided by a big-ass server).
    where ba ang local training na sinabi mo, i dont mind 300K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoma_34
    where ba ang local training na sinabi mo, i dont mind 300K.
    Here in the Philippines.

    Though SAP training is being offered anywhere in the world. The rates are almost the same anywhere. It is around $5000/module.

    Here's the list of training that you can attend:

    http://www.sap.com/services/educatio...demy/index.epx

    Though I have to warn you guys, a lot of stuff will not be covered by the training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoma_34 View Post
    where ba ang local training na sinabi mo, i dont mind 300K.
    Call KAISA Consulting for SAP Training Requirements: 370 1134, dami ko kakilala na ng-train sila dun.. and i heard good feedbacks! Some say they are the best locally.. :D

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    wow! 300k! hmmmm. mukhang mahirap un ah. hehehe. mukhang sa self study na lang ako. my friend ako na may tutorial daw siya ng ABAP. hiramin ko na lang muna un siguro para at least may background ako.

    salamat

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    Quote Originally Posted by fLaKeZ
    wow! 300k! hmmmm. mukhang mahirap un ah. hehehe. mukhang sa self study na lang ako. my friend ako na may tutorial daw siya ng ABAP. hiramin ko na lang muna un siguro para at least may background ako.

    salamat

    training in ABAP is one thing, knowing the tables in SAP is different thing..they are coded. its not like a DBF file in which you can easily find a record.

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    at isa pa...mas maganda kung may hands on experience ka sa SAP. Me, I just do self study during my consulting days. kasi may test system kami na pwede paglaruan.

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    flakez: dati ka na bang programmer? if so, learning ABAP won't be too hard for you i guess. as they've said, you can take courses run by SAP Academy (which can be really tough on your pocket) or you can also buy books online in the SAP Knowledge Shop. learn on your own pace + inexpensive pa. i can recommend some good books if you want. and, meron ding free tutorial CD ang mga books na kasama called MiniSAP/MiniWAS you can install in your desktop.

    but, of course, experience is still the best teacher. i've been into ABAP for the last seven years doing consulting jobs here & there. if you can find a company who's into SAP and can give you a chance to learn ABAP, grab it!

    good luck!

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    sabi nung tropa ko sa ABAP na lang daw ako magfocus since programmer talaga ako nung college pa.

    *DT, graduate po ako nung october 2004, hehe unfortunately wala pang job experience. hehehe. gusto ko sanang mag-aral ng ibang language para atleast dagdag kaalaman. pero sabi naman nung iba ayos lang daw kahit konti lang alam kasi sa training din naman daw bagsaka ko. pero gusto ko matuto para kahit papano hindi naman ako zero sa kaalaman.

    kakabrowse ko lang ng ibang tutorial sa net. mukhang kelangan ko nga ng system para ma tweak. mukhang hintay na lang ako ng kukuha sa akin para i-train ako. hehehe

    thanks
    Last edited by flakez; September 27th, 2005 at 07:51 PM.

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    Thanks mazdamazda.

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    pano magiging consultant? required ba ung training and certification? o ok lang kahit hindi certified basta may alam ka, o depende na rin sa company?

    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by fLaKeZ
    pano magiging consultant? required ba ung training and certification? o ok lang kahit hindi certified basta may alam ka, o depende na rin sa company?

    thanks again
    well... depends talaga yan.

    certification isn't really a prerequisite. pero mas ok na meron kasi shempre mas mataas ang sweldo (since globally recognized naman ang SAP certification).

    basta mas mahalaga ang experience & hands-on knowledge.

    may mga companies... na nag ooffer ng internship (lalo na for fresh grads)... they will train you in SAP... pero shempre tali ka for a few years or so sa kanila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    well... depends talaga yan.

    certification isn't really a prerequisite. pero mas ok na meron kasi shempre mas mataas ang sweldo (since globally recognized naman ang SAP certification).

    basta mas mahalaga ang experience & hands-on knowledge.

    may mga companies... na nag ooffer ng internship (lalo na for fresh grads)... they will train you in SAP... pero shempre tali ka for a few years or so sa kanila.

    thanks

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    curious lang john, what kind of software does sap produce? Mga Database, Utilities, servers?

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    fLaKeZ, yun sigurong 30K minimum na yun. pero depende pa rin sa galing ang bayad sa 'yo. in some countries you can get as little as US$3K to as high as US$6K per month. dyan sa Pinas medyo mas mababa ang bigayan kasi dami na ring ABAP programmers at SAP Consultant dyan.

    tama si sir mazdamazda na di naman prerequisite yun certification pero mas maganda lang kung meron ka (prima facie evidence na marunong ka nga).

    ILuvDetailing, SAP is an Enterprise Resource Planning(ERP) system...SAP R/3 na mismo yun product.

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