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  1. Join Date
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    Hahaha. Yes I tried it. And it really makes you go. Especially the tea.

    This is really a 2nd job cathy. You shouldn't go into it if you don't want to put in the work its rewarding but damn the hours are long it takes a whilw to build a network that lasts.



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    Oh my. Now that really is a problem for me because I don't want to do that in the office

    I told my Kuya since I am leaving for my expat assignment anytime this year I really cannot do this for business. But my Mom is thinking of getting into it so she has something to do in her spare time. I'll have my blood exam next week and we'll see if the results are good. What I do not like is they recommend to eventually stop all maintenance meds. My Mom isn't too keen on the idea.

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    Don't stop your meds. Only the doctor can tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    Don't stop your meds. Only the doctor can tell you that.

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    Yup. Definitely not stopping any meds. I only got the chlorophyll for my senior family That is safe daw for everyone and doesn't need doctor's approval na.

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    Very young swindlers...

    NBI on manhunt for 7 in P500-M scam
    By Ghio Ong (The Philippine Star) | Updated April 10, 2016 - 12:00am


    Clockwise from upper left: Terrence Kenji Ito, Theodore Yuji Ito ,Jake Ryu Oprecio ,Aldus Renier Tubiera ,Joanary Roxas ,Kent Ortiz and Edmer Maligaya


    MANILA, Philippines – The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) said yesterday it is on a manhunt for seven officials of One Lightning Corp., a direct selling and investment firm shut down by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) for allegedly duping clients of P500 million.

    The manhunt comes after the Pasig Regional Trial Court Branch 155 issued hold departure orders against One Lightning president Terrence Kenji Ito and chairman Theodore Yuji Ito and incorporators Aldus Renier Tubiera, Joanary Roxas, Jake Ryu Oprecio, Edmer Maligaya, Kent Ortiz and Marcos Jordan de Mesa on Feb. 29.

    All eight are young professionals, with ages ranging from 22 to 28, the NBI said.

    Last Wednesday, NBI agents arrested De Mesa in the office of Aero International in Quezon City. The SEC has also issued warnings against Aero International.

    Roxas and Ortiz were not at the Aero International office when NBI agents served a warrant issued by the Pasig Court on Jan. 5 against the Itos and the One Lightning incorporators for syndicated estafa, a non-bailable crime.

    The warrant – the first, since more complaints against One Lightning are up for resolution with the Pasig City prosecutor’s office – stated that the suspects failed to return as much as P500 million from 100 investors.

    One Lightning, formed in Pasig in 2014, initially sold health and beauty products and anti-cancer medicine and recruited prospective investors through networking.

    The firm promised up to 80 percent return on investment.

    The SEC issued a cease and desist order against One Lightning for selling unregistered securities in March 2015.

    The NBI said its agents later found out One Lightning officials set up another SEC-registered company and two others, no longer SEC-listed, all engaged in direct selling and networking.

    They put up Forward Direct Selling Corp., which was also slapped with a cease and desist order from SEC for the same violation.

    The NBI said the suspects also reportedly set up Aero International and Oasis Wellness and Beauty Corp., which operated without SEC registration.
    NBI on manhunt for 7 in P5-M scam | Metro, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

  6. Join Date
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    So long as people are greedy and want money the easy way, this MLM scam will never go away.

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  7. Join Date
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    Hmm, those were the guys always parked at Shell Emerald with their cars flaunting One Lightning stickers. Kawawa naman yung mga naloko, but really, what else were they expecting.

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    Singer Ted Ito’s twin sons arrested over alleged P5-M investment scam | Kicker Daily News

    Singer Ted Ito’s twin sons arrested over alleged P500-M investment scam
    Posted on July 11, 2016 by Ron E.J. Carleon


    MANILA, Philippines – The twin sons of Japanese singer Ted Ito has been arrested in San Juan City late last week after they were tagged as the mastermind in an investment scam that duped hundeds of people of around P500-M.

    Apprehended by San Juan City police on Thursday are Terence Kenji Ito and Theodore Yuji Ito, president and chairman, respectively, of One Lightning Corporation (OLC), direct selling and investment firm ordered shut down by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) last year for allegedly duping its clients, including businessmen of nearly half-a-billion pesos.

    The Ito brothers are the twin sons of Ted Ito; the Japanese singer whose singles “Ikaw pa rin” and “Maghintay ka lamang” became monstrous hits in the 90s and staples in karaoke shops in Manila and in the provinces.

    According to an Inquirer article dated July 11, the siblings were arrested by authorities while waiting in a vehicle along P. Guevarra Street, Barangay Corazon de Jesus, San Juan City on Thursday morning.

    A warrant for their arrest had been issued last December 2015 by Judge Genie Gapas-Agbada of Pasig RTC Branch 254.

    In April, the SEC has filed more charges against OLC and its officials for continuously offering and selling to the public investment contracts without any permit through a new company called FDS Forward Direct Selling Corp.

    Aside from the Ito brothers, also charged with syndicated estafa case – a non-bailable offense – are OLC incorporators namely Aldus Renier Tubiera, Joanary Roxas and Jake Ryu Oprecio who all remain at large.

    “The scheme employed by the said corporation was clearly a Ponzi scheme which they tried to hide to trying to appear as a multilevel networking company engaged in the marketing of cosmetic and health products,” said SEC in its complaint.

    A Ponzi scheme is described as “a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.”

    OLC started in 2014 selling beauty, health and anti-cancer products with a promise of an attractive 80-percent return of investment to potential investors.

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    A friend of mine is recruiting me to join Unicity. Good points on sir Jut's lengthy & informative article. Just wondering how many here who joined are fairing so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    A friend of mine is recruiting me to join Unicity. Good points on sir Jut's lengthy & informative article. Just wondering how many here who joined are fairing so far?
    I noticed the improvement in looks (weight loss, nice skin) of people I know that are with Unicity. I got curious and was only supposed to buy products but my kuya made me sign up in March
    I was never in it for the "business". I stopped using the products because I realized it's cheaper for me to buy supplements separately in the US. But my fat lab still uses chlorophyll until now. It makes her energetic.

    I got 3k plus when my little cousin signed under me. That's easy money. My first and only cheque from Unicity. Lol.

    I'm just not interested in going to BKK every month or so (that's what the active members I know do) and networking really isn't for me. But I think Unicity is good for people who have PR skills. My fat lab's vet is super active with Unicity. I'm afraid nga magquit sa vet practice

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    Sino na ng nakasubok ng HERBALIFE? Ok ang product nila ganda ng epekto sa katawan ayaw ko nga lang mag member para hindi nila mapakinabangan yung mga invite ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    Sino na ng nakasubok ng HERBALIFE? Ok ang product nila ganda ng epekto sa katawan ayaw ko nga lang mag member para hindi nila mapakinabangan yung mga invite ko.
    My wife is taking it regularly. Ang binibili nya ay yung sachet na chocolate, may kasamang shaker. Breakfast and dinner ang nire replace nya. Ang bilis maka payat [emoji3]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    Sino na ng nakasubok ng HERBALIFE? Ok ang product nila ganda ng epekto sa katawan ayaw ko nga lang mag member para hindi nila mapakinabangan yung mga invite ko.
    Mya mga sumubok na dito sa opis ng Herbalife. Mabilis makapayat kaso may ilan na tuyot ang appearance.

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    Ginamit pala yung Hummer as a "incentive" for a networking scam company.

    Last edited by Monseratto; February 15th, 2017 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Ginamit pala yung Hummer as a "incentive" for a networking scam company.

    pinapahiram ng mga upline ang mga fancy cars sa mga downline who are trying to recruit new members

    sasabihin nila they made so much money nakabili sila ng hummer/mustang/camaro/ferrari/whatever

    props lang yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pinapahiram ng mga upline ang mga fancy cars sa mga downline who are trying to recruit new members

    sasabihin nila they made so much money nakabili sila ng hummer/mustang/camaro/ferrari/whatever

    props lang yan
    Sagot sa yo nyan: "May product po kami, hindi po ito scam". 😆

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    I personally know someone who is earning 40M (gross annual income) sipag at tyaga talaga. Mga millennials na kakilala ko may mga SUV, condo at investments na dahil yun sa direct selling and networking


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    lahat naman ng tao knows someone or knows someone who knows someone na yumaman sa MLM

    sa sampu na sumali sa MLM ilan ba sa kanila ang yayaman?

    lahat?

    no way

    5?

    2?

    1?

    kung lahat ng sumali sa MLM ay yayaman wala na sana regular employees

    wala na din sana mag tyaga mag doktor, engineer, etc

    lahat ng tao nag MLM na sana

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