Pirating employee?

[shadow]

If mag pirate ka ng tao, same job description etc...what's the going rate for signing bonus? And how much increase sa sweldo ang offer? Realistically ha, walang out his world reply please...

I was thinking the signing bonus should be like a separation package, 1 month for every year of service, tama ba? Then sweldo is 30% increase fair?

[Retz]

30% increase plus 1 month signing bonus is fair enough. Again, depende yan sa company kung gaano kalaki kayang ibigay.

[shadow]

30% increase plus 1 month signing bonus is fair enough. Again, depende yan sa company kung gaano kalaki kayang ibigay.

The signing bonus is 1 month for every year of service Diba? What's the real world going rate?

Masyadong Broad yan depende Sa company eh, if you are the company what's a fair offer?

[CVT]

Kung 1 month for every year of service and signing bonus,- papa-pirate na ako sa iyo, bro.shadow!.....

Plus 30% increase in salary,- WOW!

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[shadow]

Kung 1 month for every year of service and signing bonus,- papa-pirate na ako sa iyo, bro.shadow!.....

Plus 30% increase in salary,- WOW!

14.7K:cow:

Bankrupt company pag pirate ka sa laki ng sweldo...

That's why I'm asking if that's the going rate for signing bonus? Or it's too much. Siyempre wala na makukuha sa present company niya. So dapat bayaran ng nag pirate yun separation pay niya?

[vinj]

Annualize the total salary and benefits of the person. On how much increase, it will also depend on his current salary level. If its still relatively low then you can double his basic pay or total annual compensation. If he's already receiving a sizeable amount, then 30% to 60% will be the range. You may also opt to offer a lower basic pay increase but add in some sweeteners like medicine, gas, representation allowances which will effectively raise his take-home pay.

[shadow]

Annualize the total salary and benefits of the person. On how much increase, it will also depend on his current salary level. If its still relatively low then you can double his basic pay or total annual compensation. If he's already receiving a sizeable amount, then 30% to 60% will be the range. You may also opt to offer a lower basic pay increase but add in some sweeteners like medicine, gas, representation allowances which will effectively raise his take-home pay.

Ano mga benefits Ang dapat isama sa computation? How about the signing bonus, tama ba naisip ko na igaya sa separation pay? The signing bonus pala should it be computed sa gross or net ng basic pay? If its the former, we are talking about substantial amount...il say the number more or less 2M...what's a fair amount or where to base the signing bonus?

[Ry_Tower]

If mag pirate ka ng tao, same job description etc...what's the going rate for signing bonus? And how much increase sa sweldo ang offer? Realistically ha, walang out his world reply please...

I was thinking the signing bonus should be like a separation package, 1 month for every year of service, tama ba? Then sweldo is 30% increase fair?

Sometimes kahit walang signing bonus basta hindi pa executive level. Pero kung executive, 1 month lang or 2. Sobra na yung for every year from previous company. May makukuha naman siya dun eh.

Yung increase ang tricky. That I don't know. Pero sa experence ko halos 50%.

[Bin Diesel]

Signing bonus kahit 1 month lang no need for complex computations. Increase is usually 50% to 100% of current salary. You can also offer tax assistance and additional allowances.

[shadow]

Another thing the signing bonus is a no string attach transaction it's not like a bond or something Diba? So going rate for signing bonus is one or two months, now I can sleep better, akala ko kasi kailagan bayaran yun separation pay na dapat makukuha sa present employer since nasayan yun tenure doon...and whats keeping me awake eh hinde ko alam saan kukunin yun signing bonus..if 1 month per year of service...I mean saan ko kukunin sa part ng company yun budget for signing bonus?

Yun mga matagal na Sa corporate world, Wala pa ba na pirate sa inyo dito? What's the offer so I could have an idea...

[CVT]

Bro.,- seriously,- signing bonus is typically 1 to 2 months, tying the employee for 1 or 2 years.... Nothing more.

Tapos, 30% to 50% ang salary increase, depending on the position/function and current salary....

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[Ry_Tower]

Bro.,- seriously,- signing bonus is typically 1 to 2 months, tying the employee for 1 or 2 years.... Nothing more.

Tapos, 30% to 50% ang salary increase, depending on the position/function and current salary....

14.7K:cow:

Yup, I agree with this one. Pero yung ibang magagaling talaga at ayaw umalis, minsan double the salary ang offer.

[CVT]

Yup, I agree with this one. Pero yung ibang magagaling talaga at ayaw umalis, minsan double the salary ang offer.

Oo bro, kaya nga it depends on the position/function and current salary. Kung staff, like P20K a month,- kaya ng kumpanya ng P40K a month, lalo na kung malaking kumpanya ito at startup. But, the employee should be aware that he is being priced above market, kaya malabo ang salary increase/s in the following year/s.

Kasi if the salary is high already,- like P200K a month for example,- then the hiring company will just "burden" itself paying P400K a month for that person (100% increase). Puwede naman siyang makakita ng ganoong tao at the same or probably lower salary. Plus a few perks here and there.

Unless, specialized function ang kailangan niya.

Of course, iyong malalaking suweldo,- karamihan,- matagal na sa kumpanya kaya ayaw umalis dahil mapupunta lang sa tax ang resignation benefits,- lalo na kung mayroon silang 'retirement or resignation plan'

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[chua_riwap]

mukhang sa big time na position yan sahdow ah........

[shadow]

Bro.,- seriously,- signing bonus is typically 1 to 2 months, tying the employee for 1 or 2 years.... Nothing more.

Tapos, 30% to 50% ang salary increase, depending on the position/function and current salary....

14.7K:cow:

Ok thanks , if that's the case it's manageable...

[Bin Diesel]

Another thing the signing bonus is a no string attach transaction it's not like a bond or something Diba? So going rate for signing bonus is one or two months, now I can sleep better, akala ko kasi kailagan bayaran yun separation pay na dapat makukuha sa present employer since nasayan yun tenure doon...and whats keeping me awake eh hinde ko alam saan kukunin yun signing bonus..if 1 month per year of service...I mean saan ko kukunin sa part ng company yun budget for signing bonus?

Yun mga matagal na Sa corporate world, Wala pa ba na pirate sa inyo dito? What's the offer so I could have an idea...

Na-pirate na ako several times. Walang signing bonus kasi in exchange tied-up ka sa company for a certain period and ayaw ko ng ganun kasi paano na kung di ko pala magustuhan yung kumpanya. 50%-100% increase in salary ang usual range pero more than the salary I look for the benefits because that will mean more than any salary increase in the long run. With that you can offer a lower salary increase but make sure you offer a much better over-all package. Remember people who transfer to another company does not necessarily look for a much higher paying job but a company that offers a much better employment experience overall. Hope this helps.

[Retz]

remember, ang may mataas na sweldo ay ang karaniwan priority ng cost cutting.

[CVT]

remember, ang may mataas na sweldo ay ang karaniwan priority ng cost cutting.

Not if they're the ones deciding on the cost cutting measures...

But, if the package is excellent, why not?...
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[flakez]

it depends sayo yan kung hanggang san kayo mo ibigay para kumagat yung pipiratahin mo. subukan mo din mahingi yung current package niya para ma compare mo yung i ooffer mo. usually naman ang katanggap tanggap na increase is 30%, pero pag tipong walang balak umalis yung employee kelangan mo talaga tapalan ng malaking increase para lang kumagat. hehe

OT: pano ba nasasabi na na pirate ka? pag lumipat ka ba ng bagong employer or yung tipong bigla ka na lang tatawagan tapos sasabihin may offer na kagad sayo? hehehe. sa field ko kasi common na ang lumipat ng employer. hehehe.

[basti08]

Kaka-pirate lang sa sister ko. But she was pirated 2x prior to this new company. Those previous 2 companies gave her a 100% increase plus higher tier benefits (higher allowances, higher bracket medical card etc). Dito sa new company nya though, she was given only 61% increase over her previous salary but has more bonuses that her 2 previous companies.

My mom's sign-in bonus before was a brand new Vios 1.3J, 3% commission on delivered goods, plus some allowances, free 6 months amortization. After 4 months, she was pirated by another company, was given a brand new Vios 1.5G AT (my car now), 3% commission on collected sales (though), although this new company is more stable than her previous, free 6 months amortization and free comprehensive insurance as long as it is under the company's name.