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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    It's sad, but true......
    Hindi rin ako nakaka-kuha ng magandang trabaho diyan sa atin, either encoder later contract programmer (low-paying job), at most, walang mag-interest na operan ako ng trabaho.
    Sino ba ang nais malayo sa pamilya to earn dollars? It's a matter of choice and determintaion to succeed and sustain your daily needs at least to be able to support your family lalo na at inutang yung pinang-tuition fee mo.

    Let's hope and pray na gumanda ang takbo ng ekonomiya ng Pilipinas para makauwi na kami.

    Vote wisely this coming election dahil may pag-asa pa ang Pilipinas!!!

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    #2
    Graduate ng Fatima Medical Science Foudation iyan (where my father is a faculty member).

    May balak naman daw siyang bumalik sa Pilipinas kapag naayos na niya ang kabuhayan nila.

    Ang mas kinasusuklaman ko ay yung mga doctor na may kaya naman pero ipinagdadamot ang serbisyo sa mga kababayan naming nangaganilangan. May kilala kasi akong med student na ganun. Ang gara ng sasakyan, single, ok naman ang pamilya. Niyayaya ko mag-clinic sa free clinic ng father ko kahit twice a month lang. Bigla na kong inasiman ng mukha. Hindi daw siya nag aaral ng pagkatagal tagal for nothing.

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    #3
    Ako may kilala ako na MED STUDENT siya pero sobrang galing sa OFF ROAD, CARS at GIRLS


    Pero pag nakausap mo di siya mayabang...

    Humble yun


    Hahahahahah

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    #4
    hehehehe parang pamilyar din sa akin yung doc na yon...


    doc gwapings yon eh, hehehehe naka pajero yon pero very humble and down to earth....hehehehe

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    #5
    Originally posted by theveed
    All I can say to the "bashers" is that, unless you're the one experiencing daily issues like not knowing where to get the money for your next meal or how to pay for bills or provide basic needs for your family, just shush... Not everybody is lucky enough to have free housing (living with parents or hand me down place from parents), lucky enough to land in a high paying job almost instantly. Not having to pay back educational loans, not having to be a bread winner to a family that looks up to you, etc....

    Not everybody's as lucky as most of us here are. How long you can wait to be "successful" depends on how urgent your basic needs are. If your basic needs are met, then you can afford to "grow" your career, otherwise, career will always take a back seat behind basic necessities.
    DON'T you dare tell me that I haven't experienced any of the daily issues you have just mentioned. Are you the only one who has a family or have been in these kinds of predicaments? If not, maybe you are the one who should shush.

    You should not base anything on luck. Good things don't drop infront of you because of luck. You work hard for it.

    I don't see any reason why a doctor can't earn enough for his basic needs especially if he is a topnotcher.

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    #6
    Sana walang uminit ang ulo sa atin dito. Count 1 to 10 muna then breathe! Sarap diba?

    Dito sa atin, basta madiskarte kang doctor, hindi ka man yumaman hindi ka naman maghihirap.

    I guess hindi kaya hintayin ni Mr. Topnotcher ang return of investment niya sa medicine. Usually kasi dumarating lang yun around ten years after you have graduated.

    Ang tagal mo na nga nag-aral, ang tagal mo pang makakabawi at giginhawa. Whoever said medicine is a get-rich profession is seriously mistaken.

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    #7
    Imagine katulong namin sa HK kumikita ng mas malaki kesa sakin when i first started sa MS... hehe... imagine she makes 18K+ while i was still making 16... :P

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    #8
    Originally posted by IceColdBeer
    Agree with yebo and theveed. It takes a lot of courage to give up your profession and go for a lower degree to earn more for your family. I don't see anything wrong with what he did. That's the reality of life in the Philippines.

    Some people are just lucky to have a wealthy family that they don't need to do what others did to survive. So what if he's a doctor that shifted to a nurse? We have lots of OFWs who are teachers, nurses, etc... who became Domestic Helpers in foreign countries. Do we have to say that it's greed which causes them to do it? Isn't it already an insult to their being to be a Domestic Helper? And besides, what makes the Philippines survive? Isn't it because of these people? C'mon let's open our eyes and not criticize those people who are truly helping their family and their country.
    Courage isn't needed to go for a lower degree. Why is it needed if I may ask?

    Some people are just lucky to have a wealthy family that they don't need to do what others did to survive.
    Emphasis on SOME. This just means that MOST need to do what others did to survive.

    This is also the reason why I don't belive in surveys. For example, we can't predict who will be the next president unless there is a declared winner.

    Isn't it already an insult to their being to be a Domestic Helper?
    NO. It is a decent job and it is what they chose to be.

    And besides, what makes the Philippines survive? Isn't it because of these people? C'mon let's open our eyes and not criticize those people who are truly helping their family and their country.
    I know that OFWs are fundamental to the survival of our economy. It is simply wrong to claim that they are the ONLY ones who makes the Philippines survive.

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    #9
    NURSE!?!?

    LOWER DEGREE!?!?THAN DOCTORS!?!

    come on....they are just tha same..pareho silang nakakatulong sa mga tao...


    ako magdodoctor kagaya ni otep....

    and frankly.HINDI KO MASASABI NA HINDI AKO MAG NU NURSE...depende sa tawag ng pangangailangan.

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    #10
    let us not judge these people. kung yon ang gusto nya and he feels he can make a better life there, then hes free to do as he wants. its his life.
    if given the opportunity to go abroad for a better paying job and better financial security, id grab it.

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    #11
    going to US is the right thing to do based on the prevailing economic and socio-political situation. what is stupid is if he will stay in this country. in that episode, many of us have seen where he came from---just think of they have : small and simple house in a war-torn province. matagal na taon na paghihirap ang tiniis ng mga kapamilya nya para lang matapos sya ng med. ipinangutang ang kanyang tuition at gastusin sa loob ng mahabang taon. para sa kanila di na sila siguro makakapaghintay guminhawa pagod na rin sila sa pag hihirap---kaya di natin sila masisisi.

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    #12
    Note to all tsikoteers.

    One can always argue in an inoffensive manner. State your point and be done with it. We are not in the business of proving who's right and who's wrong, as always, there are none.

    Remember that this is a forum, not a courtroom. Always keep that in mind before posting.

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    #13
    tama si PK.
    cool lang mga peeps... opinions are neither right nor wrong

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    #14
    ... nor have anyone here earned any right to JUDGE dr. jacinto's decision. the guy does not know anyone of us, nor has his decision affected our lives. he is only charting his own destiny, a RIGHT all of us have. if we can make our own decisions without anyone passing judgement on us, why not the doctor?

    as for doctors being able to earn good money in the philippines, i suppose you need to be one to know. or at least be 1st degree family. anyone who says that a doctor earns big bucks after graduation is saying that as a pure assumption. the truth can't be farther from that. doctors do not earn big money, unless they have the CAPITAL to put up to buy shares in a big hospital. as i said in my earlier post, it now costs MILLIONS of pesos to buy shares (and thus clinic rights) in any hospital in metro manila.

    my sister is a doctor. her first job was city health officer in manila. her monthly salary then, 1997, was only P4800/month. the peso/dollar exchnage rate at the time was P9/USD. so tell me, was P4800/month a "good" salary after 9 years of medical school? if you are rich then i suppose it's ok. if you are not, then you aim for something better.

    after her residency (pediatrics) she put up a clinic (my money, she does not have any money). we could not afford to buy clinic rights (or shares if you will) in any private jhospital, it was too expensive. MILLIONS, remember! she earned just enough to pay the rent. she could not even afford to watch a movie. she held 2 clinics, 1 in manila, 1 in alabang. she even went to a private hospital in quezon province. but a domestic helper in singapore or hongkong earned more than she did.

    she gave up. she now works as a pedriatrician in fiji island.

    so please do not judge doctors who now work as nurses. you have not earned the right to do so.

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    #15
    ** hindi ko po nabasa yung ibang post...

    mahirap yata kasi sila doc jacinto kaya mas madaling mag nursing sa US. madaming gastos...

    ung pinsan ko nakadalawang beses na punta sa states para sa interview/ tests nya para mag-doctor. sa pagkakaalam ko, nagbenta pa sila ng kotse para masuportahan yung pabalik-balik nya .

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    #16
    very well said ser yebo.

    question lang po, if there any opportunity that comes to your life that you know na mapapabilis pag asenso mo, di mo ba kukunin?

    "why walk?...if you can run." :D

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    #17
    As an alternative to buying shares in a hospital, you can just opt to teach like how they do here at UST. Para naman may chance lahat.

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    #18
    otep,

    sana nga may place for every graduate to teach. kaso wala e.

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    #19
    I agree with HCO1, masyado tayong nakasandal sa mga OFW for our country's survival. Yes, they do help their own family, but our country? common, ni hindi na nga sila nagbabayad ng philippine taxes, Wala lang sanang pikunan ha, hindi ito Kotse.com, hehehe

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    yes sir yebo kulang nga.

    Sinabi ko lang kasi some people might get the impression that it requires millions to set up practice in big hospitals.

    BTTT. I do believe in freedom of choice. Malay natin kapag ako naman ang pinalad na maka-graduate eh sa automotive industry ako pumasok.

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