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  1. Join Date
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    ang nagagather ko kay shadow it's called gaming the system

    since wala nakukulong sa utang, you can exploit the system, use the system to your advantage

    parang ung business practice ni Trump

    Trump is the quintessential American hustler

    he uses bankruptcy laws to his advantage

    what he does is build businesses using debt and declares bankruptcy



    Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt. ... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."

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    Hi guys

    for the inputs.. although di pa nya alam tlaga gagawin , on top of that ung ibang account nya sa banko bigla na hold ? pero weird lang daw kasi tatlo ung bank nya iba iba.. isa lang ung na hold for garnish daw kasi may court order? at ung na hold na un hindi pa sa orignal bank kng saan sya nag aplay noon ng CC. eh currently meron din syang open account sa bank na yun at hindi ginalaw

    Another question ung account na un for garnish.. alam ba ng CA ang laman? di ba this will fall sa bank secrecy law
    So far the next step na gagwin is to entertain na muna ung CA on how to deal ung utang wala rin naman pang abono para matanggal lung "hold" sa account nya sa banko


    wayback kasi may mga tawag at email pero since wala naman pambayad tlaga iniignore na lang kaysa magbigay ng false hope na mabayaran in the end ganon din naman mangyayari

    Now for the car naman .. how can CA tell na itong car na ito ay kanyang pag mamayari?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    Hi guys

    for the inputs.. although di pa nya alam tlaga gagawin , on top of that ung ibang account nya sa banko bigla na hold ? pero weird lang daw kasi tatlo ung bank nya iba iba.. isa lang ung na hold for garnish daw kasi may court order? at ung na hold na un hindi pa sa orignal bank kng saan sya nag aplay noon ng CC. eh currently meron din syang open account sa bank na yun at hindi ginalaw

    Another question ung account na un for garnish.. alam ba ng CA ang laman? di ba this will fall sa bank secrecy law
    So far the next step na gagwin is to entertain na muna ung CA on how to deal ung utang wala rin naman pang abono para matanggal lung "hold" sa account nya sa banko


    wayback kasi may mga tawag at email pero since wala naman pambayad tlaga iniignore na lang kaysa magbigay ng false hope na mabayaran in the end ganon din naman mangyayari

    Now for the car naman .. how can CA tell na itong car na ito ay kanyang pag mamayari?
    Ah pwede sila mag hold ng bank account? Even yung mga naka and/or?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang nagagather ko kay shadow it's called gaming the system

    since wala nakukulong sa utang, you can exploit the system, use the system to your advantage

    parang ung business practice ni Trump

    Trump is the quintessential American hustler

    he uses bankruptcy laws to his advantage

    what he does is build businesses using debt and declares bankruptcy

    Not gaming exactly but kung baon ka na sa utang sa CC and since andyan na yan then huwag na pa stress sa mga CA.

    Bayaran kung kaya mo pag hinde huwag ka na uutang para pangbayad lang sa utang.


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    Last edited by shadow; June 11th, 2023 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Not gaming exactly but kung baon ka na sa utang sa CC and since andyan na yan then huwag na pa stress sa mga CA.

    Bayaran kung kaya mo pag hinde huwag ka na uutang para pangbayad lang sa utang.


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    pero pwede rin gawin yan ng meron pambayad pero ayaw magbayad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob*143 View Post
    Are banks allowed to provide personal identifiable information like home address, home landline number, celfone number to the collection agency considering meron Data Privacy Law na?

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    of course

    if a bank outsources debt collection to a CA, kasama lahat ng info

    the CA cannot do its job without the info diba

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    Na garnished na ba talaga? Baka naman nabasa lang niya yun letter ng CA. Natakot na siya.

    Napakabilis naman yata ng garnishment.

    Hinde ba siya na receive ng summons ng court para sa garnishment or something?

    Bakit pa siya makipagusap sa CA kung na garnish na yun isang account niya? Eh di kunin na nila yun laman.

    Tanong niya sa bank manager kung meron talaga and hanapin niya yun order ng court na na receive ng bank manager.

    Kung mga criminals hinde basta basta ma hold yun mga accounts eh siya pa.


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    Last edited by shadow; June 11th, 2023 at 01:57 PM.

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    Kags posted na poor daw mga tsikoteers talking about credit card debt 😂

    I'm sure tsikoteers are transactors (paying full amount every month) and not revolvers (leaving a balance or paying minimum amount) I don't get kags logic, porque napagusapan, guilty na? Hahaha

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    Naalala ko dati ay nagkautang ako sa Citibank CC dahil sa annual fee, P3,500 IIRC.
    I tried to have the annual fee waived kaso hindi pumayag.
    On time ako nagbabayad ng lahat ng purchases ko using CC. Yung annual fee lang ang hindi ko binayaran.
    Nakipagmatigasan ako na hindi ko babayaran.
    Ayun lumaki ng lumaki dahil sa interest tapos naipasa na ako sa CA.
    Bale wala sa akin yung harassment nung CA kasi malakas ang loob ko na ang liit lang ng utang ko para mag-file pa ng case against sa akin.
    Kaso nga lang ay kinailangan ko na mag-loan sa bank. Ayun hindi ako naa-approve kasi may bad record daw ako.
    Kaya napilitan ako makipag-negotiate sa CA. Parang nasa P5,000 yung binayaran ko.

    After ko magbayad, nag-send sakin ang certification ang Citibank na bayad na ako.
    So siguro ay hired CA lang yung sa case ko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makelovenotwar View Post
    Naalala ko dati ay nagkautang ako sa Citibank CC dahil sa annual fee, P3,500 IIRC.
    I tried to have the annual fee waived kaso hindi pumayag.
    On time ako nagbabayad ng lahat ng purchases ko using CC. Yung annual fee lang ang hindi ko binayaran.
    Nakipagmatigasan ako na hindi ko babayaran.
    Ayun lumaki ng lumaki dahil sa interest tapos naipasa na ako sa CA.
    Bale wala sa akin yung harassment nung CA kasi malakas ang loob ko na ang liit lang ng utang ko para mag-file pa ng case against sa akin.
    Kaso nga lang ay kinailangan ko na mag-loan sa bank. Ayun hindi ako naa-approve kasi may bad record daw ako.
    Kaya napilitan ako makipag-negotiate sa CA. Parang nasa P5,000 yung binayaran ko.

    After ko magbayad, nag-send sakin ang certification ang Citibank na bayad na ako.
    So siguro ay hired CA lang yung sa case ko?
    So hinayaan mong ma blacklist ka dahil sa ₱3.5k? I mean, ano ginawa mo sa card? Hinde mo naman pwede pa cancel dahil meron ka pa balance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So hinayaan mong ma blacklist ka dahil sa ₱3.5k? I mean, ano ginawa mo sa card? Hinde mo naman pwede pa cancel dahil meron ka pa balance.


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    You can close/cancel a card kahit may balance pa. That's what some card holders do so they won't be tempted to use it anymore, pero ang charges tuloy tuloy pa rin

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    You can close/cancel a card kahit may balance pa. That's what some card holders do so they won't be tempted to use it anymore, pero ang charges tuloy tuloy pa rin

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    Pwede!? Kung ganyan pala tama yun stand ko na pag hinde na kayang bayaran huwag na bayaran. [emoji23] wala na talaga pakialam bank talaga sa mga balance sa card.


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    So nung mabayaran mo ang utang mo pwede na ulit umutang, as in burado na ang nakaraan?

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    If you can afford to settle it now then do it, if hinde then don't. Ano magagawa mo?

    Kung punta sila ng court so be it. As I've said talo ka naman talaga dahil hinde ka nagbayad.


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    It is better to settle it with the bank directly. Paalis mo lahat ng interest and penalties. Kung ayaw nila huwag mo na bayaran.

    Magagalit nanaman si cathy. [emoji23]

    Mag file na lang sila ng case. I think the judge will be fair, aalisin niya lahat ng overcharging ng bank.

    Meron ako nabasa dati eh natalo sa ganyan yun BPI. Umabot sa SC at unfair daw yun mga over charging nila.

    Pero wala pa naman letter eh. Antayin mo lang muna.


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