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    #21
    Went to PIMS yesterday.

    Test drive is outside the main building.
    i think pwede mag test drive even without going inside. thou i never asked.

    parking is outside. mahaba pila ng parking coming from buendia yung line up to the parking entrance in macapagal.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesto View Post
    I think test drives nasa labas ng buidling so no need to pay entrance fee.

    Saan puede pumarada? may parking ba within the complex or sa labas ng complex?

    May parking lots at the Boom na Boom complex and the nearby lot where the El Shaddai used to have their gatherings but if you're going this weekend the lines entering the parking lots will be quite long, kaya ako nung MIAS I ended up parking doon sa HK Sun Plaza which is besides PNB/PAL and walked to the WTC na lang. Foton is offering a free shuttle service with one of them going from WTC to SMX, although I'm still trying to find out if back and forth iyan.

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    #23
    Thanks guys.

    Agahan ko na lang punta bukas

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    May parking lots at the Boom na Boom complex and the nearby lot where the El Shaddai used to have their gatherings but if you're going this weekend the lines entering the parking lots will be quite long, kaya ako nung MIAS I ended up parking doon sa HK Sun Plaza which is besides PNB/PAL and walked to the WTC na lang. Foton is offering a free shuttle service with one of them going from WTC to SMX, although I'm still trying to find out if back and forth iyan.
    ... toxic sked...
    may car show na, may book fair pa.
    and i still have to report for work.
    highs.

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    #25
    Mukhang walang Avanza/Raize din na display at test drive unit, wala siguro stock?

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Mukhang walang Avanza/Raize din na display at test drive unit, wala siguro stock?
    i asked my casa kakilala, when i visited the casa,
    "bat nawala ang raize display?"
    "binili, doc. hindi maka-hintay."
    "eh yung new altis?"
    "nasa garahe sa taas, doc. puede nating tignan."

    their showroom had vios, wigo, innova, and something else i forget...
    Last edited by dr. d; September 17th, 2022 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i asked my casa kakilala, when i visited the casa,
    "bat nawala ang raize display?"
    "binili, doc. hindi maka-hintay."
    "eh yung new altis?"
    "nasa garahe sa taas, doc. puede nating tignan."

    their showroom had vios, wigo, innova, and something else i forget...
    Hehe... salamat Doc. Ka opisina ko, naka pila sa iilang casa, halos 3 months na waiting sa Raize. Kamusta po Altis, na test drive niyo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Hehe... salamat Doc. Ka opisina ko, naka pila sa iilang casa, halos 3 months na waiting sa Raize. Kamusta po Altis, na test drive niyo?
    haven't bought it yet, sir.
    my spouse has declared, "you can't buy another car, until you sell off at least one of our older ones."
    oo nga naman.
    i play driveway tetris, to get my car of the day, out.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Hehe... salamat Doc. Ka opisina ko, naka pila sa iilang casa, halos 3 months na waiting sa Raize. Kamusta po Altis, na test drive niyo?
    opinion ko lang, kapag nandyan na ang raize ay babagsak ang benta ng vios na made in the philippines...

    ang sasakyan ngayon dapat mataas ang ground clearance, ang dami na benta vios dual vvti na hindi nila alam na builtin ang oilpan sa engine block

    tinamaan ng bato, butas agad, tirik agad...

    Last edited by Stigg ma; September 17th, 2022 at 12:58 PM.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    opinion ko lang, kapag nandyan na ang raize ay babagsak ang benta ng vios na made in the philippines...
    Pwede mabawasan nga. Pero overall baka mas lumakas sila.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    haven't bought it yet, sir.
    my spouse has declared, "you can't buy another car, until you sell off at least one of our older ones."
    oo nga naman.
    i play driveway tetris, to get my car of the day, out.
    Agree po. Gastos din sa maintenance/insurance ang madaming kotse.

    Although luxury din kung may malaking covered garage.

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    opinion ko lang, kapag nandyan na ang raize ay babagsak ang benta ng vios na made in the philippines...

    ang sasakyan ngayon dapat mataas ang ground clearance, ang dami na benta vios dual vvti na hindi nila alam na builtin ang oilpan sa engine block

    tinamaan ng bato, butas agad, tirik agad...

    Mukhang may hiwalay na oilpan naman? May gasket sa may spring sa kanan.

    Pero agree. Maganda mag assemble na din ng Raize at Avanza sa TMP.

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    #34
    pang single VVTI (xNZ-fe) yan link nyo, dual VVTI (xNR-fe) yung built in na nasa picture ko...

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    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; September 20th, 2022 at 01:14 AM.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    just looking at it,
    it appears that it does more than just hold the oil.
    so what else does it do, i wonder?

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    $240 USD (13k+++ pesos) oil pan, yan na nga yon pero hindi yan ang oil pan na presyo sa ordinaryo sasakyan, yan ang hindi alam ng mga vios owners na naka dual vvti kahit na napakadami vios na nabenta ni toyota ph

    magkamali ka lang ng pag balik ng drain plug dyan ay napaka mahal ng gagastusin mo...
    Last edited by Stigg ma; September 20th, 2022 at 01:37 AM.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    just looking at it,
    it appears that it does more than just hold the oil.
    so what else does it do, i wonder?

    It holds the oil. That's it.

    Malinaw naman ang definition ng engine terms. The pressurized portions of the engine are the cylinder block and cylinder head. This is a very tall oil pan, but at the end of the day it's still just an oil pan. It can be redesigned to be much shallower if Toyota were so inclined.

    Pag tinamaan oil pan and nagkabutas, pareho din naman ang result whether it's this style or the more traditional style na parang batya lang: loss of oil and destroyed engine if you don't notice it soon enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    $240 USD (13k+++ pesos) oil pan, yan na nga yon pero hindi yan ang oil pan na presyo sa ordinaryo sasakyan, yan ang hindi alam ng mga vios owners na naka dual vvti kahit na napakadami vios na nabenta ni toyota ph

    magkamali ka lang ng pag balik ng drain plug dyan ay napaka mahal ng gagastusin mo...
    I agree mahal sya na oil pan para sa economy car. Ka-presyo ng oil pan ng Evo VII-IX.

    OEM Mitsubishi Oil Pan | 23-26 Mitsubishi Evolution Evo 8/9 (12A - MAPerformance
    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; September 20th, 2022 at 02:17 AM.

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    #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    opinion ko lang, kapag nandyan na ang raize ay babagsak ang benta ng vios na made in the philippines...

    ang sasakyan ngayon dapat mataas ang ground clearance, ang dami na benta vios dual vvti na hindi nila alam na builtin ang oilpan sa engine block

    tinamaan ng bato, butas agad, tirik agad...

    Price wars pa din yan i think. Cheaper pa din entry level vios and even the XE than raize considering the bigger engine and seating capacity ng vios. Madami pa din bibili ng vios.

    The raize is slowly growing on me. Especially thr dark gray one. Hehe. Ayaw ko lang tumingin sa casa. Ayaw ko mag commit.

    Regarding oilpan: totoo yan. May nakasabay kami dati to baler tumirik. Tinamaan pala ng bato ang oil pan. Had to source surplus engine from pampanga.

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    $240 USD (13k+++ pesos) oil pan, yan na nga yon pero hindi yan ang oil pan na presyo sa ordinaryo sasakyan, yan ang hindi alam ng mga vios owners na naka dual vvti kahit na napakadami vios na nabenta ni toyota ph

    magkamali ka lang ng pag balik ng drain plug dyan ay napaka mahal ng gagastusin mo...
    Sometimes Toyota engineers don't get it right. That's way to expenseinve for a very exposed part. Dapat mas matibay or repairable or cheap to replace.

    Mukhang aluminum alloy kasi eh. unlike most oil pan na HD which is steel.

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