need urgent help!! my remote isnt working..

[wickednasty]

peeps.. i need help with my car's alarm system... here's the story, i bought a used car already equipped with an Argus ASC-3000 alarm system.. the previous owner was only able to give me just one remote.. he lost the other one na kse...features include the basics.. keyless entry, remote start, and i think it also has ignition sensing... just this morning, when i was about to use the car, the remote wont work.. so i used the key to open the door with the alarm activated. so, out of the picture na yung pagbubukas ng door.. next problem is how i'd be able to start the car. the only way to disable the car alarm irritating noise is by removing one of the car battery's connection. so i totally disabled the car alarm by going under the dashboard and disconnecting the wires connected to the alarm box. now the alarm no longer sounds off, but then the car wouldn't start either kse meron nga yata syang ignition cutoff feature or something.... correct me if im wrong, pero hindi ba dapat disabled na rin yun since dinisconnect ko na yung connections sa main box... btw, i already changed the battery of the remote, thinking na baka weak battery lang.. still, it didn't work... is there a way para totally ma-disable na yung alarm system para mapaandar ko na at mapapalitan na yung alarm system... car was working fine yesterday.. drove about a 100kms, so i dont think the starter or anything else have failed.... looking forward to your responses... thanks tsikoteers....

[fireblade]

One, there is a bypass that you can just press to start the engine. Normally it is a red button underneath the dashboard. Two, you may bring the unit to Banawe or Araneta Ave to have the remote copied. IMHO, it is better to change the whole alarm system rather that having a copy done. This was, you are confident that what you have is new and should work for a longer period.

[joey]

To disable the alarm find the push buttons switch under the dash ( tama c fireblade kadalasan red ang color nya). turn the ignition on but dont start it then press mo ung button until magturn on ung alarm light indicator (led ba). pag nka on na and not blinking means nka valet na ang setting ng alarm mo pwede mo na gamitin ignition key sa lahat unlock n lock doors, start engine.
pag dinisconnect mo wiring harness na alarm dka tlaga aandar dahil ung starter kill relay na connected sa starter ng alarm ay magoopen means walang current will pass thru starter.
ever na dimo makuha yan you can disable the starter kill by shorting relay pin #30 and #87 ( kung bosch type relay ang ginamit) kadalasan big wire cya na color black or yellow.

[wickednasty]

To disable the alarm find the push buttons switch under the dash ( tama c fireblade kadalasan red ang color nya). turn the ignition on but dont start it then press mo ung button until magturn on ung alarm light indicator (led ba). pag nka on na and not blinking means nka valet na ang setting ng alarm mo pwede mo na gamitin ignition key sa lahat unlock n lock doors, start engine.
pag dinisconnect mo wiring harness na alarm dka tlaga aandar dahil ung starter kill relay na connected sa starter ng alarm ay magoopen means walang current will pass thru starter.
ever na dimo makuha yan you can disable the starter kill by shorting relay pin #30 and #87 ( kung bosch type relay ang ginamit) kadalasan big wire cya na color black or yellow.

sir, san ko makikita yung relay? i already looked under the dash, wala kong nakitang switch eh.. although meron ako nakitang blackbox na mukhang relay.. eto kaya yun..
wala po syang brand eh.. thanks again..

[joey]

sir, san ko makikita yung relay? i already looked under the dash, wala kong nakitang switch eh.. although meron ako nakitang blackbox na mukhang relay.. eto kaya yun..
wala po syang brand eh.. thanks again..

mukhang central lock relay box yan kung d ako nagkamali. naglagay ng isang actuator para ma control ung orig central lock ng ESi mo. sa esi kadalasan, nilalagay ung alarm sa under ng left side aircon vent minsan nkcngit sa left kick panel. about sa relay box na yan pwede mo cya itrace mula jan 2 wire pumunta sa alarm un ung unlock and lock connection.

about sa relay kung gamamit cya ng bosch relay trace mo lang below the steerng colum makkikita mo dun ung pagbypass nya na big wire nka electrical tape lang at hindi sya mukhang orig para dun. kung wlang relay ka makita malamang built-in relay ung alarm mo kya ung wire na nakatap ang gagalawin mo,basta under steering sa wiring harness na galing sa ignition switch (key)

[joey]

abt sa switch try to look sa kick panel, sa tabi ng left anchor bolt ng dashboard or sa middle, pwde rin sa slot ng adjustment lever ng steering (up n down adjsment) ung mga mgagaling na installer paboritong lugar yan nkatago kc

[joey]

about sa remote when you change d battry umiilaw pba? bka nabasa, when u press the buttondapat ang ilaw intermittent pero mabilis ok un pag steady light grounded mlamang nabasa kung d umilaw malamang na may problem ung micro switch pwede mo lagyan ng wd-40 ung switch at same time galaw2 m bahagya ung switch ng mlinis ung contact, try m lang sir

[wickednasty]

sir, sa tigin ko mukhang built in relay nga to..kse masyado syang malaki compared dun sa mga binebenta sa blade.. halos kasing laki na sya ng dvd case.. tomorrow morning i'll take a picture of unit with its plastic case taken off.. actually meron syang mga label dun sa PCB pero medyo cautious akong mag-tap.. baka may kung ano pang masira.. pakita ko nlang sayo sir para sure...

about the remote, hindi nman to nabasa or whatsoever before nagloko eh.. then after ko palitan yung battery, umiilaw pa rin naman..steady red light pag nagppress ng button, just like how it was nung fully functional pa..

sir, eh pano kung gusto kong tanggalin na permanently tong alarm system ko? ano ba daapt gawin? just so i could use the car normally and para rin makapunta na sa banawe for a new alarm system.. totally useless kse sya ngayon eh..

thanks for your inputs sir.... wala tlga kong idea about this eh.. hehe

[OTEP]

correct me if im wrong, pero hindi ba dapat disabled na rin yun since dinisconnect ko na yung connections sa main box...

The ignition kill will still work even if you yank out the whole control box because the designers of the system have already thought of that scenario wherein the thief forces open your vehicle, goes under the dash and yanks everything out.

You may have had just a low battery on your remote. However, your process of disconnecting the system ECU from the car might have made it now impossible for the transmitter (now with fresh batteries) to communicate with the alarm system (whicb you have attempted to disconnect from the vehicle).

If you just wanted to stop the siren from wailing, why didn't you just disconnect the siren's ground (black) wire or just stuff a rag into the siren's cone?

You could try disconnecting the negative terminal of your car battery and reconnecting the alarm ECU back to its connector under the dash and then reconnecting the negative terminal of your car battery again. Also trace all the wires that are coming out of the ECU's connector. Some of them have inline fuses which you may have blown in the process of trying to remove the system earlier.

[joey]

sir, sa tigin ko mukhang built in relay nga to..kse masyado syang malaki compared dun sa mga binebenta sa blade.. halos kasing laki na sya ng dvd case.. tomorrow morning i'll take a picture of unit with its plastic case taken off.. actually meron syang mga label dun sa PCB pero medyo cautious akong mag-tap.. baka may kung ano pang masira.. pakita ko nlang sayo sir para sure...

about the remote, hindi nman to nabasa or whatsoever before nagloko eh.. then after ko palitan yung battery, umiilaw pa rin naman..steady red light pag nagppress ng button, just like how it was nung fully functional pa..

sir, eh pano kung gusto kong tanggalin na permanently tong alarm system ko? ano ba daapt gawin? just so i could use the car normally and para rin makapunta na sa banawe for a new alarm system.. totally useless kse sya ngayon eh..

thanks for your inputs sir.... wala tlga kong idea about this eh.. hehe

steady light? dapat medyo intermittent ung led pagumilaw, bka grounded ung remote mo ah. how about ung alarm indicator light (ung LED) ung nkakabit sa dash na red small bulb? blingking ba, steady on or o0ff lang cya?

[wickednasty]

sir joey, about dun sa LED ng alarm dun sa dash, normal nman yung speed ng blinking interval nya.. ngayon kse nakatanggal yung negative terminal ng battery eh, everytime na knoconnect ko na ulit, ARMED na agad yung car alarm..since the remote doesn't work, hindi ko ma disarm, eventually hindi ko ma-start yung kotse dahil sa ignition cutoff feature...

eto po yung laman loob ng alarm system ko... i hope you guys could point out which terminals i should short para ma-bypass yung alarm, better yet kung may idea rin po kayo, plano ko sana lagyan na nung bypass switch para kung pwede pa nman pla to, hindi na muna ko bibili ng bagong alarm system...

much thanks mga bro...

[joey]

sir joey, about dun sa LED ng alarm dun sa dash, normal nman yung speed ng blinking interval nya.. ngayon kse nakatanggal yung negative terminal ng battery eh, everytime na knoconnect ko na ulit, ARMED na agad yung car alarm..since the remote doesn't work, hindi ko ma disarm, eventually hindi ko ma-start yung kotse dahil sa ignition cutoff feature...

eto po yung laman loob ng alarm system ko... i hope you guys could point out which terminals i should short para ma-bypass yung alarm, better yet kung may idea rin po kayo, plano ko sana lagyan na nung bypass switch para kung pwede pa nman pla to, hindi na muna ko bibili ng bagong alarm system...

much thanks mga bro...

gALING ALARM MODULE NGAYAN , paki trace ung ST0 n ST1, tama ba ang basa ko? at ung AGC

[joey]

maybe ung AGC means "at alarm armed w/d ground connection" kaya pwde rin maglagay ng starter kill relay d2, pero wala ka nakitang relay jan dba? trace mo lang muna sir

[joey]

kompleto pla label mo, ung label na ST0 n ST1 ang starter kill

[joey]

ingat lang sa wire na IGN, GND at B+

[wickednasty]

sir pano gagawin ko? short ko lang yung ST0 and ST1 then turn the ignition on? what about the AGC? ano gagawin ko dun?

thanks...

[joey]

remove the wiring harness sa alarm module trace mo muna ung STO n ST1 pag ang end wire nya e nka top sa same color na wire sa wring harness under ng steering collum sa may ignition switch, makikita mo naman un na pinutol nla ung wire at sa ST0 and ST1 nila knabit. go for it na connect muna ST0 n ST1 and cover muna ng electrical tape and it should be tight ang pagbond mo nung wire.
start the engine!
if ever na hindi ka cgurado sa gagawin mo at dmo masyado magets ung cnabi ko, kung manual tranny ESi mo sir ito gawin mo remove alarm module then turn ignition key to ON position at magpatulak kana kadyot start ba at dalin mo sa nearest electrician na kilala mo.

[joey]

pwede rin PM me ur landline at col kita sir