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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Honk! Honk!

    Wag kalimutan ang oil-maintenance sa malupit nyong airhorns. Hihina din yan kahit dalawang direct drive compressors. Tutuyo ang oil sa loob (kahit "self-lubricating" or "maintenance-free" yang mga Made in Italy) at dadami ang dumi sa loob. Di na maka-ikot ng maayos ang vanes tapos masusunog ang copper coils sa kakabusina (lalo na yung mga mahilig magbabad).
    Sir, kailangan din ba lagyan ng oil yung hella twin na red? Kung kailangan, every kelan dapat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    bro how do you service the stebel nautilus?
    Kailangan mo ihiwalay ang plastic horn assembly at ang metal compressor. I-google mo nalang kung paano basta kailangan dahan dahan para hindi masira ang plastic latch sa top portion. Lagyan ng mga 5 drops ng 3-in-1 multipurpose oil (gaya ng Singer) ang air inlet (yung butas sa gilid malapit sa engraved "Made in Italy"), honk twice around 1 second each (walang tunog kase naka-hiwalay ang horn), 5 drops ulit, honk ulit, 5 drops ulit, tapos honk ulit. Ibalik ang plastic horn assembly. Mas madali kung hiwalay na ang trumpets at compressor gaya ng Stebel GP2 or GP3. Maintain with oil atleast once a year (ako 3 times a week kase I'm a "horny person").

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Kailangan mo ihiwalay ang plastic horn assembly at ang metal compressor. I-google mo nalang kung paano basta kailangan dahan dahan para hindi masira ang plastic latch sa top portion. Lagyan ng mga 5 drops ng 3-in-1 multipurpose oil (gaya ng Singer) ang air inlet (yung butas sa gilid malapit sa engraved "Made in Italy"), honk twice around 1 second each (walang tunog kase naka-hiwalay ang horn), 5 drops ulit, honk ulit, 5 drops ulit, tapos honk ulit. Ibalik ang plastic horn assembly. Mas madali kung hiwalay na ang trumpets at compressor gaya ng Stebel GP2 or GP3. Maintain with oil atleast once a year (ako 3 times a week kase I'm a "horny person").

    thanks for the tip bro. i already burned through 2 units coz i'm horny too haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Kailangan mo ihiwalay ang plastic horn assembly at ang metal compressor. I-google mo nalang kung paano basta kailangan dahan dahan para hindi masira ang plastic latch sa top portion. Lagyan ng mga 5 drops ng 3-in-1 multipurpose oil (gaya ng Singer) ang air inlet (yung butas sa gilid malapit sa engraved "Made in Italy"), honk twice around 1 second each (walang tunog kase naka-hiwalay ang horn), 5 drops ulit, honk ulit, 5 drops ulit, tapos honk ulit. Ibalik ang plastic horn assembly. Mas madali kung hiwalay na ang trumpets at compressor gaya ng Stebel GP2 or GP3. Maintain with oil atleast once a year (ako 3 times a week kase I'm a "horny person").
    It's not as "maintenance-free" as I'd hope pala. Planning on selling my PIAA Bass Horns for the Stebel Nautilus sana.. I'm loving those decibel figures..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vios1.3eat_user View Post
    Sir, kailangan din ba lagyan ng oil yung hella twin na red? Kung kailangan, every kelan dapat?

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    All electromagnetic horns like Stebel Magnum, Fiamm "phat phat" (forgot the model), Hella Supertone, Hella Twin Tone, Bosch Europe (black and silver), Bosch EC6 or EC9, Roots Megasonic, Mitsuba Alpha, Mitsuba "turbine" (copy ng orig Mitsuba Dolce II), etc. do not need any maintenance. Yung mga airhorns na may direct-drive compressors lang gaya ng Stebel Nautilus, Brio, GP2, GP3, Fiamm SNFL, NFL, Gran Turismo, etc lang ang kailangan ng oil maintenance. Yung Mitsuba "turbine" meron daw preventive technique para hindi mapaos. Nilalagyan yata ng screw/bolt locking compound or sealant ang screws ng copper coil at nilaglagyan ng sealant ang housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    All electromagnetic horns like Stebel Magnum, Fiamm "phat phat" (forgot the model), Hella Supertone, Hella Twin Tone, Bosch Europe (black and silver), Bosch EC6 or EC9, Roots Megasonic, Mitsuba Alpha, Mitsuba "turbine" (copy ng orig Mitsuba Dolce II), etc. do not need any maintenance. Yung mga airhorns na may direct-drive compressors lang gaya ng Stebel Nautilus, Brio, GP2, GP3, Fiamm SNFL, NFL, Gran Turismo, etc lang ang kailangan ng oil maintenance. Yung Mitsuba "turbine" meron daw preventive technique para hindi mapaos. Nilalagyan yata ng screw/bolt locking compound or sealant ang screws ng copper coil at nilaglagyan ng sealant ang housing.
    Got it. Tnx boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    It's not as "maintenance-free" as I'd hope pala. Planning on selling my PIAA Bass Horns for the Stebel Nautilus sana.. I'm loving those decibel figures..
    Yung catchy 139db ng Stebel is measured at only 4 inches. 115-117db lang yun at a more realistic 2 meters. Dagdagin mo nalang yung Piaa Superior Bass mo. Mas maganda pa tunog nun at mas mahal. Lugi ka lang kung ibenta mo pa at around half the price. Unless yung mga long metal trumpets gaya ng Alpex Big Blast kukunin mo. Yun malakas pag oil maintained at dump truck talaga ang tunog. Mapapansin ka ng mga pasaway kase unique ang tunog (minsan kase hindi lang dapat malakas). Or pakabit ka nalang ng atleast 2 sets ng Bosch Europa or Roots Megasonic na unobstructed sa likod ng front grill. Ear piercing yun at no maintenance.

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    ung bosch europa black ko nasira kasi nasingawan ng freon coming from the condenser ang nangyari masyado dikit ung pagkakalagay nung black europa sa condenser kaya ayun tumama at sumingaw kaya palit ko condenser pati europa silver na pinakabit ko. me nakapagtry na ba sanyo na magkabit ng 2 silver europa at 1 black europa kasi buo pa ung isa black ko, ano kaya ang output? nung binuksan kasi ni jeff tan ung silver at black (C/O FB) parehas lang ang loob ang pinagkaibahan lang casing and color..

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    Quote Originally Posted by black ice View Post
    ung bosch europa black ko nasira kasi nasingawan ng freon coming from the condenser ang nangyari masyado dikit ung pagkakalagay nung black europa sa condenser kaya ayun tumama at sumingaw kaya palit ko condenser pati europa silver na pinakabit ko. me nakapagtry na ba sanyo na magkabit ng 2 silver europa at 1 black europa kasi buo pa ung isa black ko, ano kaya ang output? nung binuksan kasi ni jeff tan ung silver at black (C/O FB) parehas lang ang loob ang pinagkaibahan lang casing and color..
    If I'm not mistaken, mas matining ang tunog ng black. I have the silver Europa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Yung catchy 139db ng Stebel is measured at only 4 inches. 115-117db lang yun at a more realistic 2 meters. Dagdagin mo nalang yung Piaa Superior Bass mo. Mas maganda pa tunog nun at mas mahal. Lugi ka lang kung ibenta mo pa at around half the price. Unless yung mga long metal trumpets gaya ng Alpex Big Blast kukunin mo. Yun malakas pag oil maintained at dump truck talaga ang tunog. Mapapansin ka ng mga pasaway kase unique ang tunog (minsan kase hindi lang dapat malakas). Or pakabit ka nalang ng atleast 2 sets ng Bosch Europa or Roots Megasonic na unobstructed sa likod ng front grill. Ear piercing yun at no maintenance.
    Any idea how much the Alpex Big Blasts are? Actually problema ko sa air horn is more of mounting concerns since it's a passenger sedan. Hanapan nalang siguro ng paraan :D

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    Mga boss safe po ba palitan yung horn fuse ng Vios gen2 from 10 amp to 30 amp? Nakapagpalit na ako ng busina last couple of months then parang may nabasa ako somewhere in this forum na pwede palitan as long as meron ako relay (Bosch 30a). TIA


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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeybone1k View Post
    Mga boss safe po ba palitan yung horn fuse ng Vios gen2 from 10 amp to 30 amp? Nakapagpalit na ako ng busina last couple of months then parang may nabasa ako somewhere in this forum na pwede palitan as long as meron ako relay (Bosch 30a). TIA


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    Pumuputok ba masyado? If not, I don't know why you want to change the fuse. A fuse is a protection device, lower = more safety = better

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Pumuputok ba masyado? If not, I don't know why you want to change the fuse. A fuse is a protection device, lower = more safety = better
    Para daw mas buo ang tunog. So far ok naman nung tinesting ko. Obeserbahan ko mga isang linggo. Thanks sa reply boss.


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    Anong horns to?

    Already tried a 30amp fuse with 30amp relay with gauge 12 wires each on a set of Hella Supertone on 1 ride and on a set of Bosch EC6 on another ride for a span of 2 years. Mas buo at mas galit ang tunog compared sa usual 15amps for the Supertone or 10amps for the EC6. No problems within the 2 years of honking in a "horny way" (limit to 10 secs maximum hold).
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeybone1k View Post
    Para daw mas buo ang tunog. So far ok naman nung tinesting ko. Obeserbahan ko mga isang linggo. Thanks sa reply boss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Anong horns to?

    Already tried a 30amp fuse with 30amp relay with gauge 12 wires each on a set of Hella Supertone on 1 ride and on a set of Bosch EC6 on another ride for a span of 2 years. Mas buo at mas galit ang tunog compared sa usual 15amps for the Supertone or 10amps for the EC6. No problems within the 2 years of honking in a "horny way" (limit to 10 secs maximum hold).
    I'm using 2 pairs of Bosch EC6 w 2 relays din on my Gen2 Vios. Yes, mas galit nga yung tunog compare sa 10amps.


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    Alin kaya ang mas ok sa dalawa?
    Stebel made in Taiwan - P1,500
    Hella Twintone made in India - P1,500

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Anong horns to?

    Already tried a 30amp fuse with 30amp relay with gauge 12 wires each on a set of Hella Supertone on 1 ride and on a set of Bosch EC6 on another ride for a span of 2 years. Mas buo at mas galit ang tunog compared sa usual 15amps for the Supertone or 10amps for the EC6. No problems within the 2 years of honking in a "horny way" (limit to 10 secs maximum hold).
    Hindi na talaga pwedeng ibabad sir?

    Kung pwede sa europa ko yang 30Amp relay at 30Amp fuse aba'y mas masaya yun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Hindi na talaga pwedeng ibabad sir?

    Kung pwede sa europa ko yang 30Amp relay at 30Amp fuse aba'y mas masaya yun
    Pag masyadong matagal ang babad, baka masunog ang busina lalo na pag mataas ang papasok na current. Anyway, mas effective sa tenga pag short, consistent holds sa busina keysa continuous hold. Mas maganda din ang tunog ng Bosch Europa (black or silver) at Roots Megasonic kung pitik pitik lang (to get that popular "bing", "bing" sound). Kayang kaya ng isang pair Bosch Europa ang 30amp relay with 30amp fuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    Pag masyadong matagal ang babad, baka masunog ang busina lalo na pag mataas ang papasok na current. Anyway, mas effective sa tenga pag short, consistent holds sa busina keysa continuous hold. Mas maganda din ang tunog ng Bosch Europa (black or silver) at Roots Megasonic kung pitik pitik lang (to get that popular "bing", "bing" sound). Kayang kaya ng isang pair Bosch Europa ang 30amp relay with 30amp fuse.
    Ayun sige pag iisipan ko ng mabuti yan. Binenta ko yun black europa ko para palitan ng silver eh hehe

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    Installed a pair of Europa Silver, dunno kung anong relay ginamit nila (I think it was Hella, pinasabay ko na lang kasi sa rewire). Malakas at maraming naiinis sa akin Behind the bumpers ko pinalagay para at least protected from the elements.

    Nung nagpa-carwash ako, nasa gilid ako ng sasakyan, napindot nya yung horn button ng di sinasadya, napa-mura ako ang lakas pala talaga

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