use of ozonisers/ionizers in your car is unsafe for you

[bardigones]

kinabahan nga ako doon kasi, sometimes we use ionizers (hepafilter) for our room at home. and its from the USA where there are lots of approving agencies like the EPA...

so what is the real score?

[pajerokid]

Anyone here who can point me to the distributor of Zeolite?

[leinahtan]

Ozonizers, ionizers, whatever.... if you cant stand your car cabin's fatal smell, then go with the stuff. If you can, why should you?

[webmiester]

I was sold into the idea of a ozonator before when a small unit was able to remove the scent of 3-day old bibingkas out of my car (nakalimutan kasi). Ang bango rin ng air na lumalabas sa kanya, parang fresh air yung scent.

Ozonators have been extensively used sa water filtration to kill microorganisms.

However, I stopped using and recommending ozonators when a British journal of Medicine reported that the ozone exposure from ozonators lead to decreased sperm counts. They werent sure of the mechanisms yet but they considered ozone to be a pollutant...

[DonT]

When I was in Korea, almost all homes have this ionizer thing. Its a very simple device with just two metal plates a fem millimeters apart. I bought one and brought back home sa pinas. I do not use it anymore.

My question is...
Can Ozonators be considered as Ionizers?
Can Ionizers be considered as Ozonators?

All the while, I thought they were the same. Kasi nga yung Oxygen molecule which has splitted up becomes a negatively charged ion. This Ion is the one responsible in deactivating the harmful free radicals. Well..that is what I remember from my Chemistry 101.

[mmanson]

uling...don't really need an "air cleaner" sa oto... sa dumi ba naman ng hangin ng mertro manila e..ganun din

[alwayz_yummy]

sa former delica ko--i had one of those ionizers... actually, di ko ramdam effects-or sadyang manhid lang ako...kasi sabi ng mga nakasakay sa likod(malapit sa ionizer) sarap daw sumakay sa van...

ngayon sa liteace, pag ok na aircon ko siguro maglalagay ako--ka mahal,e...

(pero nice night light for the van yun...)

[webmiester]

When I was in Korea, almost all homes have this ionizer thing. Its a very simple device with just two metal plates a fem millimeters apart. I bought one and brought back home sa pinas. I do not use it anymore.

My question is...
Can Ozonators be considered as Ionizers?
Can Ionizers be considered as Ozonators?

All the while, I thought they were the same. Kasi nga yung Oxygen molecule which has splitted up becomes a negatively charged ion. This Ion is the one responsible in deactivating the harmful free radicals. Well..that is what I remember from my Chemistry 101.

From what Ive seen and read with the Ionizers and Ozonators' literature in the market, magkaiba sila.

In the Ionizers' theory - negative ions in the air make us sleepy while positive ions wake us up. Negative ions are formed by static electricity produced when the car body interacts with the moving air outside the car, as well as through some of our body processes... The Ionizers change Negative Ions into Positive Ions. This is what we find in the old Goldstar "Green TV's" sold during the 1990's.


Ozonators on the otherhand kill odors and bacteria by producing O3 (Ozone). Oxygen is supposed to be subjected to high voltages and Ozone is produced. It is used in air and water purifiers.

Ionizers do not promise killing of bacteria nor removal or odors. Only ozonators promise that. There are many gadgets though that combine the two together.

[webmiester]

When I was in Korea, almost all homes have this ionizer thing. Its a very simple device with just two metal plates a fem millimeters apart. I bought one and brought back home sa pinas. I do not use it anymore.

My question is...
Can Ozonators be considered as Ionizers?
Can Ionizers be considered as Ozonators?

All the while, I thought they were the same. Kasi nga yung Oxygen molecule which has splitted up becomes a negatively charged ion. This Ion is the one responsible in deactivating the harmful free radicals. Well..that is what I remember from my Chemistry 101.

Ive seen the metal plates thing. It appears to attract particles using electrostatic energy (parang yung mga expensive dusters na dumidikit yung mga hair strands). They look impressive. Are they really labelled as Ozonators or Ionizers?

Some plasma air purifiers in the market have ozonators as well. Medyo nasanay na ako sa amoy ng ozonator kaya alam ko amoy kapag meron ganun yung device.

[yellowbird]

Guys, how about 'yung presco ionizer na ibinebenta sa Venta5 sa TV (Channel 5) and Internet?
Bumili ako nu'n months ago pa at gamit na gamit sa room namin kasi smoker ako.
Is it unsafe? Mahal pa naman bili ko du'n. Parang a thousand plus.

[jtdc]

"A very important point to be aware of: A badly designed ionizer may produce ozone, and with it nitrous oxide. "

ayos ito... by using that, may NOS na ang car mo!

seriously, i've been using an ionizer (not an ozonizer, i know the difference, i don't know if ozonizers are available on car shops anyway, its only ionizers which is common)... it really neutralizes both good and bad odors. that's why i can't really put scents in my car when its running. its only harmful effect to me is it costed more than a thousand bucks (sa shangrila ko binili).

[baiskee]

uling na lang..

[theveed]

theveed, we're not debating. we're just discussing here. and no, i never take anything in this forum personally

Cool Yun lang din naman point ko hehe, not all ionizers are ozonators :D

Bardigones: Depende talaga sa manufacturer, I'm pretty sure that if your brand is well known and you follow the right precautions, it'll be fine. Toshiba aircons have built in ionizers as well these days, I doubt they'll pass Japanese standards if they're unsafe, but always stay away from any ozone emitting machines. You're not supposed to breathe in ozone regardless of quantity.

[1D4LV]

buti pala nasira na yung ionizer ko. hehehehe. balik ambipure ako ngayon eh.

[Leon275]

Guys,

Would you know if the aircon being sold by Sharp produces the same ill effects discussed here. I bought coz of the promise of a cleaner air for the kids pero baka lalo lang makasama for them.


Thanks.

[bardigones]

we use a HEPA filter at home.

If you were to purchase a single product to help you avoid airborne allergens, a HEPA air purifier would be it! Modern homes and offices are built with air tight specifications to conserve energy. This causes airborne particles to remain in the air with nowhere to go. If you wake up in the morning with a stuffy nose, itchy and swollen eyes, or experience frequent sneezing and wheezing, you are reacting to airborne contaminants in your home! These include microscopic dust mite allergen, animal dander, room dust, mold spores, pollen, harmful fibers, bacteria, gases, smoke, and other odors.

The High Efficiency Particulate Arrester (HEPA) filter is the same type used in hospital operating rooms or wherever a sterilized environment is required. True HEPA filters remove a minimum of 99.97% of all airborne particles greater than 0.3 microns in size.

[victory]

for me ok ang ionizer specially if you are selling the car.. gamitin mo ionizer bago tingnan nang buyer.. pag pasok niya amoy bago.. (but of course dapat malinis din ang car.)

[asterix]

My friend is offering me an ionizer for my car but I'm not really convinced if this really works. What's your opinion?

[GlennSter]

please use the search function.thank you.

[asterix]

please use the search function.thank you.

Thank you for the info and reminder....

Based on the discussion here, Uling na lang din gamitin ko to be safe