Philips X-Treme Vision Vs. Osram Night Breaker Plus

**rukawa11** · January 22nd, 2013 01:58 PM

dati gusto ko ng osramnight breaker, kaso baka madismaya lang ako, kaya baka mag bosch all weather nalang ako para sigurado maliwanag,

**MikkiW** · January 23rd, 2013 12:53 AM

Buti hindi ako nagpakabit... Hahaha

**garyq** · January 23rd, 2013 12:34 PM

Mga 95% sure ako fake yung bulb na nakuha nya. That happens when the filament are not optically centered.

Here is a comparo I did on the XV and NB+:

Got to finally do this as I started to import directly Osram NB's and Philips XV and I am starting to offer a unique plug and play HID bulb only for H4 headlights.

Comparing the outputs:

headlights are Jazz GD, 1st Gen
same CAM settings on all

Stock Osram bulbs (from casa) vs. Osram Night Breaker Plus

stock vs. Philips Xtreme Vision (XV)

I measured light output in LUX with a light meter:

stock halogen bulb = 80-100 lux
Osram NB = 150-170 lux
Philips XV = 150-170 lux

There is a considerable difference between the stock halogen bulb and the NB or XV.

Between NB and XV

In actual and same with the pic, it is very hard to see the difference.

I lowered the headlights to see the actual width of the bulb output. This is showing one headlight:

Even here, it is very hard to see a width difference although I can see a slight advantage of the XV. I work with headlight output everyday so I can see some small differences but for an everyday, normal driver, this will be very hard to see.

These are all ORIGINAL AND GENUINE Osram NightBreaker Plus and Philips XV H4's from Germany. Some people say mas matibay yung Philips XV but we need see this first sa long term use. I will also try to do some testings sa H7 or H11 bulbs. All bulbs are now available. Sobrang daming fake na ganito, I went around to check. I am offering the bulbs with FREE installation and alignment of headlights.

I cannot point enough na ang daming FAKE na Osram NB+ and Philips XV so ingat sa pagbili.

**rukawa11** · January 23rd, 2013 12:51 PM

may binabagayan din yata ang osram NB. depende sa headlight? kaya siguro blur output ng ibang nakabili or fake na tlga mura na din kasi 1k lang.. dito sa amin P1800 ang Osram NB sa isang kilalang shop.

**BratPAQ** · January 23rd, 2013 11:16 PM

question, naka Philips XV na ko, kaso hirap pa rin ako sa wet asphalt sa gabi, will changing my headlight to yellow help?

**threx666** · January 24th, 2013 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by garyq

Mga 95% sure ako fake yung bulb na nakuha nya. That happens when the filament are not optically centered.

Here is a comparo I did on the XV and NB+:

Got to finally do this as I started to import directly Osram NB's and Philips XV and I am starting to offer a unique plug and play HID bulb only for H4 headlights.

Comparing the outputs:

headlights are Jazz GD, 1st Gen
same CAM settings on all

Stock Osram bulbs (from casa) vs. Osram Night Breaker Plus

stock vs. Philips Xtreme Vision (XV)

I measured light output in LUX with a light meter:

stock halogen bulb = 80-100 lux
Osram NB = 150-170 lux
Philips XV = 150-170 lux

There is a considerable difference between the stock halogen bulb and the NB or XV.

Between NB and XV

In actual and same with the pic, it is very hard to see the difference.

I lowered the headlights to see the actual width of the bulb output. This is showing one headlight:

Even here, it is very hard to see a width difference although I can see a slight advantage of the XV. I work with headlight output everyday so I can see some small differences but for an everyday, normal driver, this will be very hard to see.

These are all ORIGINAL AND GENUINE Osram NightBreaker Plus and Philips XV H4's from Germany. Some people say mas matibay yung Philips XV but we need see this first sa long term use. I will also try to do some testings sa H7 or H11 bulbs. All bulbs are now available. Sobrang daming fake na ganito, I went around to check. I am offering the bulbs with FREE installation and alignment of headlights.

I cannot point enough na ang daming FAKE na Osram NB+ and Philips XV so ingat sa pagbili.

Sir garyq ,

Maybe it's okay for the Mod's if you can post the price for both PXV and NB+ ?

Hmmm just asking po muna if how much for H7 ?

Thanx

**Teenz** · January 24th, 2013 01:52 AM

Guyz pwede kaya itong Philips Extreme Vision for my Mazda 2 headlight (H4) and fog light (H11) without the need to upgrade wirings, meron kya? would Appreciate ur recommendations since I am planning sna to change for HID and I really have little knowledge abt this. Nahihirapan kc ako kpag gabi magdrive lalo if naulan at nsa highway.

**Chikselog** · January 24th, 2013 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Teenz

Guyz pwede kaya itong Philips Extreme Vision for my Mazda 2 headlight (H4) and fog light (H11) without the need to upgrade wirings, meron kya? would Appreciate ur recommendations since I am planning sna to change for HID and I really have little knowledge abt this. Nahihirapan kc ako kpag gabi magdrive lalo if naulan at nsa highway.

No need to upgrade your wirings as they use the same wattage as the stock halogen bulbs.

**Teenz** · January 25th, 2013 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Chikselog

No need to upgrade your wirings as they use the same wattage as the stock halogen bulbs.

Thanks Chikselog! Are u familiar with the brand DK for HID? Is this brand ok? Planning to buy 4300k for both headlight and fogs. What do u think?

**Chikselog** · January 25th, 2013 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Teenz

Thanks Chikselog! Are u familiar with the brand DK for HID? Is this brand ok? Planning to buy 4300k for both headlight and fogs. What do u think?

I thought you were already inclined on getting the PXV or ONB+ after you created your own thread (http://tsikot.com/forums/car-lights-...zda-2-a-91782/) regarding your plan to upgrade your lighting. Honestly, don't go for plug and play HID. If you want to do it the right way, get your headlights and foglights retrofitted to a projector type.

We pretty much summarized (on your thread and this thread "http://tsikot.com/forums/car-lights-...-newbie-88128/") every disadvantage of Plug-and-Play (PnP) HIDs on your STOCK and NON-MODIFIED reflector headlamps and you very well know that slapping on PnP HIDs causes glare to motorists in front of you. That's a safety issue and that's exactly the reason why most forumers here are against it. Kapag nabulag ang kasalubong mo maaaring maaksidente yan, or maka-aksidente ng iba like mga pedestrians na tumatawid na hindi nya nakita dahil bulag sya sa ilaw mo.

So my advice, again, just use the PXV or ONB+, sir garyq already posted the output and trust me, they're much better in person. I drove my friend's Pajero FM when he upgraded from stock halogens to PXV, very nice output. Approximately 80% improvement in overall lighting (width, intensity of light). At magkano lang yan compared to those HID kits, malamang 2 pairs pa nga ng PXV/ONB+ ang mabili mo for the price of one pair of HID kit. And by the way I'm no expert on lighting, one does not need to be an expert in lighting to realize the consequences of using PnP HIDs on non modified reflector HLs, just use common sense.