OSram Nightbreaker or HID?

[brainmafia_310]

Sir poorprince eto po nakita ko. Sa kabilang thread, im no expert on HID's pero....

.... well, that's the hate of Tsikoteers I'm one of the first who read this thread but refrained from posting nalang at first.

*Buchi Isa
What you're looking for is the appropriate ballast for it. "HID kits" usually comes with a bulb AND a ballast so if you simply bought the bulb, wag ka na tumipid and purchase the ballast.

But with all due seriousness, even if you have a glare shield. It will only bar the direct output throw.. which is counter-intuitive in a lighting scenario is because you want it as far as you can go (if not, we'll all be driving with our fogs which has a very short throw lang). Not to mention that glare isn't just the direct scattering of light but also the surrounding areas -- the roads, puddles, etc. these will REFLECT the glare.

What I simply suggest is use better halogen lights.. like Osram Nightbreakers as direct replacements for stock lighting.

Hope this will help you in your decision.

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[hachooro]

I havent tried both but i'll vote for osram nightbreaker.

Currently ive been using osram all season and osram silverstar.


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[jp923]

Noob question.. But will hid still give as much glare if the headlight is already smoked? Since everythings blacked out aside for the reflector bowl?

Eg.

http://cdn.sulitstatic.com/images/20...b9843d2a5e.jpg

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[D3nb3r]

Noob question.. But will hid still give as much glare if the headlight is already smoked? Since everythings blacked out aside for the reflector bowl?

Eg.

http://cdn.sulitstatic.com/images/20...b9843d2a5e.jpg

*pic grabbed

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as mentioned in some of the previous threads here, a properly retrofitted HID system will not have any glare since it has a projector that focus all the lights on the road. also the projector has a cut-off, that means walang glare above the cut-off line. but even if you have a properly retrofitted hid projector, you still have to make a good alignment since hindi lang ang on-coming traffic ang pwedeng masilaw sa hid natin. we also have to consider the car in front of us that is traveling in the same direction sa atin. dapat at about 25ft our cut-off should be below the side mirror of the car in front of us. check this out for comparison.

thank you for all the replies.. getting a clearer picture here. How much does retrofitting cost (excluding that kit above which i assume includes bulb and ballast?) if you guys dont mind.. thanks

proper hid retrofit usually starts at around 11k for aftermarket setup and can go up to 26k-30k+ for eom setup. but that still depends on the retrofitter and the add on's your planning to put on your setup.

[beni23]

here's my morimoto mini h1 with foglights sa highway kagabi. hindi na kailangan mag-high beam kasi anglayo ng bato at the same time walang glare.

[s10pao]

here's my morimoto mini h1 with foglights sa highway kagabi. hindi na kailangan mag-high beam kasi anglayo ng bato at the same time walang glare.

san ka nagpakabit? magkano inabot?

[beni23]

san ka nagpakabit? magkano inabot?

8,500 lang bro kay pdm888. Performs much better than stock or plug and play hid.


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[IMm29]

Noob question.. But will hid still give as much glare if the headlight is already smoked? Since everythings blacked out aside for the reflector bowl?

Eg.

http://cdn.sulitstatic.com/images/20...b9843d2a5e.jpg

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Yes. It will give the same glare because the reflector bowl remains stock, and that's the part that projects the light.

[Chikselog]

Rule of thumb:
Want to upgrade light output on a tight budget = Osram NBP/Philips XV
With (a bit of) budget - Go with Projectors, no doubt. Kahit entry level lang, worlds apart ang difference compared to PnP. I saw an underbone MC retrofitted with HID projectors, sobrang ok ng output, and props to him for deciding to go projectors.


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[Chikselog]

Iba talaga pag sa SUV/Pick up nilagay ang projectors, mas malayo ang light throw kasi mas mataas yung position ng HL. Sa sedan kasi, pag sinagad mo yung taas, tas pag may sakay ka na, titingala. Nakakasilaw na. Although sa sedan, mas slightly intense ang buga sa center dahil mababa. My observation.


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[IMm29]

Iba talaga pag sa SUV/Pick up nilagay ang projectors, mas malayo ang light throw kasi mas mataas yung position ng HL. Sa sedan kasi, pag sinagad mo yung taas, tas pag may sakay ka na, titingala. Nakakasilaw na. Although sa sedan, mas slightly intense ang buga sa center dahil mababa. My observation.


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Agree with Chik, though I do not personally have a sedan as reference. Hehehe! Just a van and an suv. Happy with the output.

[attorney]

Just installed osram nb on my super grandia. Very happy with the results. Got it from autobacs banawe for 1.2k.

[R.Paul]

May h11 ba na Osram? Parang wala ata sila website eh

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[prince777]

May h11 ba na Osram? Parang wala ata sila website eh

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Meron sir H11:




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[aylaisabelle]

Wow! Aius na talaga ang buga ng projector.. Hindi comparable sa "just headlights"

Nakaka excite kaso it comes with a price.

hope maging stock feature na ang projector lights sa lahat ng vehicle in the coming years.

For safety and performance narin for the drivers.

[crazy_boy]

1k kuha ko for h4 kay c3 audio.

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[oj88]

HID in a projector is the best. It's literally a night and day difference.

Recently had our Tucson retrofitted by GaryQ (hidretrofit.net).

Headlamps before and after conversion:



Beam Shots: BEFORE: Low- and high-beam (OEM halogen bulbs):



Beam Shots: AFTER: Low- and high-beam (Stage 3 - 35W HID Projectors)

[RC-V]

1k kuha ko for h4 kay c3 audio.

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nasa del monte kasi ave. ako kanina kaya sa Cartronics na ako bumili. 1.1k bigay sa akin sa NB+ tumawad pa ako kay ate Emie, sagad na daw yun dapat nga daw 1.2k.

tapos late afternoon nasa banawe ako may dinaanan. sayang din yung 100 natipid kung sa c3 ako bumili, 2 liters of gas din.


*topic

HID ako, kaso mahilig ako gumamit ng highbeam sa pag-oovertake/ako muna dadaan sir stop ka muna. kung katulad lang ng civic FD headlight ng ride ko na magkahiwalay yung bulb, 100% sure HID papakabit ko.

[s10pao]

HID ako, kaso mahilig ako gumamit ng highbeam sa pag-oovertake/ako muna dadaan sir stop ka muna. kung katulad lang ng civic FD headlight ng ride ko na magkahiwalay yung bulb, 100% sure HID papakabit ko.

issue lang ata yan kapag hindi pa nakabukas ung HID mo tapos nag-flash ka. sa mga bixenon projectors meron lang shield na actuated ng solenoid na nag-co-control sa high/low beam.


pwede naman quad setup kung gusto mo magkahiwalay ung bulb ng high at low beam.

[RC-V]

^ yup maganda quad kaso need magpalit ng headlight at bumper sa crv gen2 (pre mmc), wala budget.