help - headlamp DIY upgrade

[IcEman]

any body done this before i plan to upgrade my stock H4 bulb to 100/90W bulbs but i have no idea if this is DIYable if possible what guage of wires should i get and where will i tap new relays if required, hope someone can post a step by step instruction on this mod, thanks a big.

[impulzz]

headlight relay pwede D.I.Y. but kelangnan may alam ka sa electrical. medyo tricky kasi ng konti. sa lancer negative switching ang head lites so iba ang grounding. sa wiring naman i bought gauge 12 for my positve line and 14 for my grounding and relay triggers. bought my wires sa evangelista sa pasay. japan wires 120 per 10 meters. ok ito kasi makapal ang laman at hindi yung insulation lang. unbranded itong mga wires. as for the relays u can used 2, 1 for high beam, 1 for low. or you can also go 4 relays. mahirap i step by step ang pag relay ng headlite. i did mine in 1 whole day

[Ungas]

100/90W bulbs can be opreated without having the difficulty of re-wiring the existing lines. I've done this before with stock wirings on Flosser 110/90W globes. I only changed the plastic socket into a ceramic unit for better heat capacity.

But if you are pertaining to the new H4 bulbs that claims 120/100W output, this only consumes the normal 60/55W current your daily headlights have. So no re-wiring is needed.

[IcEman]

Thanks guys,

ungas, i bought a hella bulb rated at 100/90 so you mean its ok to leave the wiring as is and just buy a ceramic socket?

Sana ok na para magamit ko na yung bulb BTW my ride is 97 Lancer Glxi

[Ungas]

Bago naman pa pala ride mo, oe wires are far-fetched better than the aftermarket Taiwan made wires.

Read the fine print carefully, nakasulat naman sa package kung norm 60/55W ang consumption. If not, change the sockets. Plastic sockets may cause it to melt because of direct contact to your new hotter bulbs.

[impulzz]

but relaying your head lites really makes them brighter. one reason kasi the lites don't share the same positive source. its directly connected to your baterry. another gain is that you lighten the load of your possitve line to your accesories line. malaki talaga difference ng naka-relay headlites.

as for your bulb sockets melting. its because of loose contacts. ok lang kahit yung plastic ang gamit mo pero make sure the terminals inside are tight.

iceman, same ang ride natin. 97 glxi ltd.

Ungas, ayos yung patrol mo. galing nung bumpers. ayos b gawa namin ng glass polish sa patrol?

[Ungas]

That's what I did before on my Tamaraw FX headlights, pina re-wire ko lahat, added relays and changed into ceramic sockets. Kaso di nagtagal mga bulbs, I had to change a couple of times. Nung makita ko ang culprit, andun sa cheapo Taiwan made wires pala. Di kinaya yung current draw ng Flosser 110/90W, tunaw mga balat ng wires. Next solution I found was to restore it back to oe wires with relays attached then changed into Flosser 135/110W until I sold the vehicle... nakalimutan ko tanggalin yung bulbs, ngayon wala na akong mabilhan ng Flosser.


OT: Ayus naman, kaso may napansin akong streaks na naiwan ng buffer sa may top portion ng windshield, hehehe. Tinamad na kong ibalik. :D

[marwen]

Originally posted by IcEman
Thanks guys,

ungas, i bought a hella bulb rated at 100/90 so you mean its ok to leave the wiring as is and just buy a ceramic socket?

Sana ok na para magamit ko na yung bulb BTW my ride is 97 Lancer Glxi

IcEman pareho tayo ng bulb brand Hella.. ganun din ang sinalpak ko sa Pajero ko.. rated 90/130 ba or 90/110 basta sure ako 90 yun... so far so good okay naman di naman nasunog mga wires..

[impulzz]

Unags, bring it back para maayos namin.

[IcEman]

maraming salamat sa maga replies bili nalang ako ng ceramic socket to be sure

Thanks!

impulzz, an mo tinap yung relay sa lancer mo i assume ginawa mo to sa oto mo

[IcEman]

Sorry for the typo,

impulzz, saan mo tinap yung relay sa lancer mo i assume ginawa mo to sa oto mo

marwen, laki ba difference sa stock na bulbs and brightness ng hella

[Ungas]

OT:

Originally posted by impulzz
Unags, bring it back para maayos namin.

I will pag sinipag bumyahe, hehe. Di kasi makatakas sa work. :D

[marwen]

Originally posted by IcEman
Sorry for the typo,

impulzz, saan mo tinap yung relay sa lancer mo i assume ginawa mo to sa oto mo

marwen, laki ba difference sa stock na bulbs and brightness ng hella

YUPS.... para sa akin.. sulit na rin yung hella in terms of brightness... yung durability.. hmmm 4 months and counting pa kasi..

[wrecker]

so what bulbs do you guys recommend? yung 60/55W din ang consumption para i don't have to change anything...

yung all-weather na din sana

[vinj]

On bulb brands, Philips, Flosser, Osram, and GE amongst some. I still prefer the relay upgrade then use real 90/100W bulbs though. Just make sure maganda yung gawa, even if you spend more... its really a PITA to lose your headlights at night.

[Ungas]

Afaik, most all-weather bulbs sold are 60-55W only. Marketing scheme na lang ng bawat brands yung optimum light output sa package, ie; 100-90W, 110-90W, 120-90W, etc.

[ARB]

if you change to higher wattage bulbs the best thing to do is put relays. Not only will the OE wires be stressed also the switches of the lights. Sometimes nothing happens but most of the time the switches will suffer because they are designed for low wattage bulbs. installing a relay is simple enough but the routing of wires is the hard part, btw what is your car? if it is toyota it would be harder due to the dashboard indicator you need to do something sa instrument panel. or if you want some bolt on wiring you can look for IPF wiring harness for headlights up to 600watts.

[impulzz]

iceman,

sorry for the late responce

yung relay ko sa head lites ng 97 lancer (pizza) is tapped dun sa headlite sockets na orig, look at it closely and you'll see 2 thin wires and 1 thicker red wire. take note NEGATIVE SWITCHING ang lancer lites. meaning ang 2 thin wires which is connected to your light switch is negative. and the red thick wire is connected to your accessories main line. if your familliar with the bosch relay. 85 will be tapped to the thich red wire while 86 will be tapped to your high(thin wire at the middle) or low beam (the other thin wire opposite the thick red wire) these will be your triggers and 30 will be tapped directly to the battery positive. 87 will be go to to your bulbs. and dont forget the negative direct na sa bulb yun.

[wiretap_md]

Whats a good lamp upgrade? I'm currently using GE 130/110 watts. Medyo yellowish yung quality ng lights. I want a slightly whiter light.

[impulzz]

wiretap,

gamit ko philips crystal vision, 1500 a pair dun sa may winterpine ko binili. whiter sya ng konti sa stock bulbs and 130/120w sya.