Advantage and Disadvantage of HID Lights

[1D4LV]

Very well said mein freund!

I have questions though.

1. Is it true that winking (pagbati using headlights) is a no-no for HID? Since this powerful and all.
2. I'm assuming that HID eats up battery power quicker, since they are awfully bright.

I have 99 Galant VR V6 , and the lights are very low! I think no one will be offended even if I used the HIGH BEAM! I had passenger once who even told me to open the my headlights, when in fact it already is! What an insult! That is why i'm planning to buy 'em HIDS! But my wife thinks otherwise. Any of you guys know a place for cheap HID's? With good quality of course!

- flashing headlights on HID is a no-no. remember, they are controlled by a ballast. masusunog yung ballast mo.
- HID consumes less battery power, because they are powered by the ballast. parang flourescent light yan sa bahay na de ballast. mas maliit mag consume ng battery compared to incandescent bulbs.

[Dexxx]

1. Flashing(winking) is a no-no for HID. Not that its powerful, but it's because of the gases inside the bulb. Too technical to explain. hehe And it would also ruin your ballast.
2. As far as I know, this is the common misconception when it comes to HID. HIDs(most of them) are rated at 35watts so compare that to your stock 55watt halogen bulb, it should consume less power. But there are 55watt kits available.

Regarding your headlights, I used to drive the same car as yours and have full windshield tints. Never had a problem with the visibility. I find the light sufficient(not bright but sufficient). Your problem may be any of the ff.
1. Type of bulb, I would suggest getting Philips X-treme Power or Osram Night Breakers. They are brighter than stock bulbs but have the same wattage so no upgrades needed.
2. Your problem might be with the headlight assembly.
-Could be that the reflectors and glass are already dirty and needs to be cleaned
-Misaligned beam. Try to check whether your headlight is properly aimed.
3. As far as I know your car comes with fog lights. Check whether they are in good condition and if they are, try using stock bulbs or better than stock bulbs and that would really help.

Wow! Thanks for the info. I'm insisting kasi the Wife to buy us an HID, maybe naiinggit lang ako. But as u've said, the light is indeed sufficient (right choice of words sir!). As for my passenger who commented that my lights are low...baka malabo na mata nya! Hehehe. Siguro pag napundi na lang ang Headlamps ko or pag may budget na tsaka na lang ako buy bg HID's. Kasi mostly parang negative feedback ang HID's, so it is not necessary.

Thanks for the tip, I may buy those PHILIPS X-Treme Power or OSRAM Night Breakers na lang...I guess they'll be cheaper than those HID's. Our car does come with fog lamps! 50watts din ata (same as the headlights), they're in good condition pa naman. Nagkakaproblem lang ako sa PARK lights, twice na ako nagpalit. But it is minor so no big deal.
We have the same car! Dude I have some missing parts on my GALANT, you might know someone (or somewhere) , where I can buy 'em! Perhaps your selling yours? It's my fog lamp reflector and a CENTER WHEEL CAP. They just fell off I guess.



Since you are a GALANT owner I recommend you this sites also.

CLUBVR4.COM (Europe based -UK, NZ etc. -first forums na nasalihan ko!)
GALANTFORUMS.COM (US Based -ok dito lotsa pimping!!)
OZVR4.COM (Australian based)
THEGALANTCENTER.NET
MYMITSUPH.COM (RP based -I think may problem sya! I can't register)

Sa iba rin nag-comment (RION and 14DLV). Thanks! Now I gotta a better overview on those HID's.

[glntVR]

Wow! Thanks for the info. I'm insisting kasi the Wife to buy us an HID, maybe naiinggit lang ako. But as u've said, the light is indeed sufficient (right choice of words sir!). As for my passenger who commented that my lights are low...baka malabo na mata nya! Hehehe. Siguro pag napundi na lang ang Headlamps ko or pag may budget na tsaka na lang ako buy bg HID's. Kasi mostly parang negative feedback ang HID's, so it is not necessary.

Thanks for the tip, I may buy those PHILIPS X-Treme Power or OSRAM Night Breakers na lang...I guess they'll be cheaper than those HID's. Our car does come with fog lamps! 50watts din ata (same as the headlights), they're in good condition pa naman. Nagkakaproblem lang ako sa PARK lights, twice na ako nagpalit. But it is minor so no big deal.
We have the same car! Dude I have some missing parts on my GALANT, you might know someone (or somewhere) , where I can buy 'em! Perhaps your selling yours? It's my fog lamp reflector and a CENTER WHEEL CAP. They just fell off I guess.



Since you are a GALANT owner I recommend you this sites also.

CLUBVR4.COM (Europe based -UK, NZ etc. -first forums na nasalihan ko!)
GALANTFORUMS.COM (US Based -ok dito lotsa pimping!!)
OZVR4.COM (Australian based)
THEGALANTCENTER.NET
MYMITSUPH.COM (RP based -I think may problem sya! I can't register)

Sa iba rin nag-comment (RION and 14DLV). Thanks! Now I gotta a better overview on those HID's.

Was a former Galant owner. Hehehe used to drive a 7G. 8G pala sayo, ganda yan. hehehe

Anyway, I guess you could trice those Philips or Osram Bulbs muna for your low beams and foglights. Try mo muna sa Low Beam. They're not very expensive naman so I guess it's worth a try.

Try to check your wirings baka something is wrong kaya nasisira yun parklights mo?

As for the center cap, I'm not sure where you can get those medyo mahirap ata hanapin mga missing parts mo. hehehe

[jmpet626]

installed HID's on my fogs.. kalat ung ilaw. Makikita mo ung light ng HID umaabot sa mukha ng mga pedestrians sa bandang right

[glntVR]

installed HID's on my fogs.. kalat ung ilaw. Makikita mo ung light ng HID umaabot sa mukha ng mga pedestrians sa bandang right

Can you adjust the aim of your fogs? If yes adjust mo downward. Some cars kasi na I saw na adjust din yung fogs. Would make it more useful since more light would be aimed at the road. btw, what Kelvin did you buy?

[s_quilicot]

installed HID's on my fogs.. kalat ung ilaw. Makikita mo ung light ng HID umaabot sa mukha ng mga pedestrians sa bandang right

ngek. HID sa fogs?


improperly aligned fog light. pa align mo yan bro.

IMO mas masakit sa mata ng HID fogs than HID na super sabog on Headlight.

unless spot light yan.

[EJAG]

I'm glad i read this thread. I had my nissan terrano fitted with HID. Napansin ko nga na talagang na iinis kasalubong ko.

Good thing I installed a HID/halogen combo. HID on low, yellow hallogen on high. Yung high ko hindi nakakasilaw masyado since yellow nga siya. I guess, I'm gonna have to re aim these babies so kasi nakaka inis nga naman makasalubong ng irresponsible HID users.

Thank you for the awareness call.

[XTO]

personally, overkill ang HID for fogs unless gusto mo maiba at willing to spend. isa pa because mas mababa siya, mas prone siya sa baha. i just use my preferred type (all season) and brand (osram or bosch) na halogen. tipid na pwedeng pwede pa ibabad.

[aceshark]

ang key lang talaga sa HID installation is proper alignment. yung sa akin HID pero hindi naman ako naka projector pero inalign ko lang ng maayos. so far wala pang naasar sa aking kasalubong (1 year ko na ginagamit). and kung naka HID lo ka na, hindi mo na kailangan halos ng high beam. yung HID hi ko nga inaamag na e. :D

[s_quilicot]

ang key lang talaga sa HID installation is proper alignment. yung sa akin HID pero hindi naman ako naka projector pero inalign ko lang ng maayos. so far wala pang naasar sa aking kasalubong (1 year ko na ginagamit). and kung naka HID lo ka na, hindi mo na kailangan halos ng high beam. yung HID hi ko nga inaamag na e. :D

isa lang sa mga factor pero marami pang dapat i consider.

[rion]

isa lang sa mga factor pero marami pang dapat i consider.

indeed... some with little nod, puwede na rin. but some are too sabog designed reflectors that will have to require too low aiming making it dangerous for the HID user...

one way of knowing you are aiming good enough, is driving on dark provincial road, yung walang ilaw sa mga poste... sa city kasi eh. motorist could still see enough despite a glare... so they might not flash on you... because our retina-eyes adjust the light level it receives... sa dark environment, it could not adjust fast enough on an incoming dazzling car...

[cumbersome]

Before installing HIDs, a driver should check if:

-The windshield tint is too dark. It's not only dangerous to have such reduced visibility especially during the night, it's actually illegal. All it takes is a cop in need to remember the rule for it to get real expensive.

-The eyes are good enough for driving. Maybe the answer is a new pair of glasses instead of new headlights.

-The vehicle can be fitted with such modifications without increasing the chances of accidents due to glare.

IMO, the LTO should restrict the installment of these devices because they present a real threat on the road, especially since most drivers are ignorant of the dangers improperly installed HIDs pose. I personally have enough problems with drivers who are inconsiderate with using their stock hi-beams. HID pa kaya.

[trekkers]

ang key lang talaga sa HID installation is proper alignment. yung sa akin HID pero hindi naman ako naka projector pero inalign ko lang ng maayos. so far wala pang naasar sa aking kasalubong (1 year ko na ginagamit). and kung naka HID lo ka na, hindi mo na kailangan halos ng high beam. yung HID hi ko nga inaamag na e. :D

tama ka diyan HID low beam is enough , tamang pag gamit lang ang dapat gawin ng kapwa driver , kung sa pinas blue HID ang maganda kasi tagos siya sa ulan di katiulad ng puti saka 6000 kelvin lang ang gamitin. kasi ang akala ng iba pag mataas ang kelvin eh mas ok ...

kailangan lang eh naka aim ng maayos ang lamp mo para di maka apekto masyado sa kasalubong mo

dito kasi sa lugar ko mostly pati fog light nila eh HID din ang gamit nila

greeting from caspian

[s_quilicot]

ok rin sana 3000k HID on high beam kaso matagal bago mag full intensity.

[jomarijoma]

what are the best color of HID, what will perform best even heavy rain and what K

[jmpet626]

4300k and 3000k..

[s_quilicot]

what are the best color of HID, what will perform best even heavy rain and what K

colors vary on waht "K" or kelvin is installed.

[baby_dmax]

just how is the right way to use hids??? i have a dmax.. im planning to put hids on headlights and fogs.. how is the right configuration sorry im not used to hids and all that.. thanx

[baby_dmax]

just how is the right way to use hids??? i have a dmax.. im planning to put hids on headlights and fogs.. i was thinking on having normal lights pag naka dim tapos hid lgihts pag bright tapos mamatay ung dim lights is that possible?how is the right configuration on hids?? sorry im not used to hids and all that.. thanx

[rion]

what do you mean by dim lights? parklights ba? HID are even less hotter than an ordinary bulb and they consumes less power...

installing HID is easy. aiming right on halogen reflector may take a lot of trials or worst it is still glaring that your aim will be too low... but if your Dmax is latest, your low beam is projector already, just a little nod and your ready to go. for foglamps, you might need more nodding to make sure you won't offend incoming motorist.

I am sure you have encountered a lot of as*holes with their HID out there...so be sensitive from the responses of your incoming motorists. if you get a lot of flashing when you go out of town in dark roads, you might need to aim a bit lower...