Advantage and Disadvantage of HID Lights

[ECG]

so guys anung mas maganda na gamitin maliban sa HID lights?

maybe a halogen with higher wattage than stock.

[LadyRider]

so it means to say mas magandang wag na lang gumamit ng HID..bka mapaaway pa ko e..

thanks sa lahat ng nagreply sa threads na to..i hope makarating to sa mga drivers that are not responsible in using HID lights.sna cla..hehe!

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[infinitystore]

Advantage: great visibility at night especially for off-roaders

Disadvantage: cost lil' bit but worth it

[Mile2]

so guys anung mas maganda na gamitin maliban sa HID lights?

Use bumper mounted fog lamps aimed at the pavement.

[XTO]

maybe a halogen with higher wattage than stock.

another cons of that is the additional load to the batt and alternator aside from premature lens discoloration - sigurado yan tapos the next problem would be the stained/darkened lenses -gastos! another is the need for the ceramic sockets and wiring upgrades

yung stock 55/60W lang malakas na yun kumpara sa 100+W provided tama ang aiming, di naka super dark front tint at malinaw ang mata ng driver

[altec]

what is the life span of hid compared to stock halogen or even those after market halogen bulbs?

When I was in Singapore last December, read an article in the Strait Times that Singapore cars with OEM HID entering Malaysia are being apprehended for having HID, which is not allowed in Malaysia. Kawawa yung mga Singapore cars. Ticket violation because of different rules of different countries. HID is allowed in Singapore, as long as its properly installed. Yan ang problema dito sa Pilipinas. We don't have clear rules on HID. And even if we have, such rule will end up being abused by cops or disregarded by the consumer, just like the ban on those cop lights and wang wangs.

[rion]

life span of HID bulb are usualy high. 35 watts lang kasi yan... kaya maraming warranty sa bulb from 15-24 months... but the igniter and ballast has limited hours life span too...

the best way to filter proper HID use. is with a device that measures a cutoff on the LTO for annual registration. but I doubt LTO will come to that... they can't even impliment freon 134a regulation properly...

[legend2destiny]

My opinion is that HID should be used only for off-roader or show car. I don't even understand why LTO dont bother to have this one dissallowed or again LTO failed to implement as usual . I consider putting one to my SUV cause I was blinded by this HID one time but then I realize its not worth an accessory. It will put you in trouble.

Be responsible naman po sana tayo kahit anu pang sabihin e masakit talaga to sa mata e. Besides gusto mo bang everytime ka labas sa nyt e worried ka rin for you might meet your match hehe buti lang kung palalampasin ka. peace!

[mbeige]

If properly done, it will serve you well. Less wattage used, clearer beam of light, better illumination, sharp cutoff (no glare), etc.

But if improperly done, it will cause glare as mentioned, might have wiring trouble in long run, could be a hack job if not done right, and if substandard parts are used could be dangerous if suddenly mawala ilaw mo (it happens).

If I were you read as much as you can, and save up for doing it the right way instead if you really want it. Otherwise, don't do a half ass job.

[oj88]

HID bulbs on reflectors designed for halogens = NOT COOL

HIDs should only be installed in optics designed for it. So far, the best would be using projectors. By that, I mean "proper" projectors... not the cheap eBay kind, if you know what I mean.

There are however a few reflectors that are certified for use with HID. Case in point, the Honda Civic 2.0S-L does not use projectors, but the headlamp assembly it's using is designed for HIDs. Other Civics of this generation other than the model I mentioned uses a different headlamp assembly, and should only be used with halogen bulbs.

[centz_]

ask lang, kahit ba naka-low beam nakaka silaw pa din ba? never had experienced using HID pa kasi, and im plannin to buy one, ng hahanap hanap din ako ng mga review's ng better visibility, at the same time panlaban sa mga gung-gong na driver na laging naka-high beam.

[1D4LV]

ask lang, kahit ba naka-low beam nakaka silaw pa din ba? never had experienced using HID pa kasi, and im plannin to buy one, ng hahanap hanap din ako ng mga review's ng better visibility, at the same time panlaban sa mga gung-gong na driver na laging naka-high beam.

depende sa aim, imho...
i've seen cars in HIDs na naka low beam pero ang sakit pa din sa mata.

[rion]

ask lang, kahit ba naka-low beam nakaka silaw pa din ba?

yes, the chances are high on reflector halogen headlights.

panlaban sa mga gung-gong na driver na laging naka-high beam.

if you are on reflector headlights, it is unlikely to dazzle them on high beam because the HID takes about 5-10 secs before the bulb lits up 100%.

A bi-xenon headlght does not do that. all it takes is the cutoff that is switched by a solenoid, to move away to make a high beam. making it even faster than halogens.

[centz_]

aww ganun pala..balak ko sana magpakabit nung so called projector type na hid, uhmm ok po ba un?

[rion]

aww ganun pala..balak ko sana magpakabit nung so called projector type na hid, uhmm ok po ba un?

kung bi-xenon projector po yung headlight, ok po yun. but the price will be atleast 14,000-up. or you could get a projector headlight assembly. yung salpak nalang na headlight, then get a HID kit.

bi-xenon Projector low to high beam video:


this HID has recently been used. if the bulb is not warm, it would not lit that fast... and this is the fast way to flash high beam on HID since there is only one filament per bulb.

sample of bi-xenon:

[beereo]

Having HID lights installed in one's car is only advantageous on the part of the driver using it. However, as regards the other road users, it is disadvantageous. Why? It is due to the fact that the visibility of the other motorist on the opposite side of the road is greatly prejudiced. It causes too much glare, which, in effect, raises the propensity of figuring in an accident. Aside from that, it is very annoying.

[Dexxx]

Advantage:
1.) Clarity
2.) Supposedly allows the driver to "see more" at night as it mimics daylight
3.) Last way longer than ordinary incandescent bulbs.
4.) Coolness factor

Disadvantage:
1.) Causes a lot of glare for on-coming traffic, especially when the grounds are wet as the light reflects from the wet ground. Could cause an accident.
2.) As the color of the light emitted is white, light doesn't cut much through the...atmosphere on days that are foggy or during heavy rain compared to normal incandescent bulbs that has a yellowish-colored light.
3.) Expensive

AFAIK, HIDs are mostly used for low-beams. However, I see a lot of idiotic, HID-totting car owners out there that have their expensive HID lams on full burn i.e. high beam. This causes a lot of discomfort drivers coming from the opposite direction as it causes glare that hurts the driver's eyes, thus temporarily bliding the oncoming driver. On dark roads where street lighting is poor or non-existent, drivers blinded by oncoming traffic may get involved in an accident.

Nothing wrong with installing a HID. Your car, your money to burn. If you do install a HID, one small request: don't be like those idiots that I'm talking about - be a responsible driver/owner.

Very well said mein freund!

I have questions though.

1. Is it true that winking (pagbati using headlights) is a no-no for HID? Since this powerful and all.
2. I'm assuming that HID eats up battery power quicker, since they are awfully bright.

I have 99 Galant VR V6 , and the lights are very low! I think no one will be offended even if I used the HIGH BEAM! I had passenger once who even told me to open the my headlights, when in fact it already is! What an insult! That is why i'm planning to buy 'em HIDS! But my wife thinks otherwise. Any of you guys know a place for cheap HID's? With good quality of course!

[glntVR]

sorry double post..

[glntVR]

Very well said mein freund!

I have questions though.

1. Is it true that winking (pagbati using headlights) is a no-no for HID? Since this powerful and all.
2. I'm assuming that HID eats up battery power quicker, since they are awfully bright.

I have 99 Galant VR V6 , and the lights are very low! I think no one will be offended even if I used the HIGH BEAM! I had passenger once who even told me to open the my headlights, when in fact it already is! What an insult! That is why i'm planning to buy 'em HIDS! But my wife thinks otherwise. Any of you guys know a place for cheap HID's? With good quality of course!

1. Flashing(winking) is a no-no for HID. Not that its powerful, but it's because of the gases inside the bulb. Too technical to explain. hehe And it would also ruin your ballast.
2. As far as I know, this is the common misconception when it comes to HID. HIDs(most of them) are rated at 35watts so compare that to your stock 55watt halogen bulb, it should consume less power. But there are 55watt kits available.

Regarding your headlights, I used to drive the same car as yours and have full windshield tints. Never had a problem with the visibility. I find the light sufficient(not bright but sufficient). Your problem may be any of the ff.
1. Type of bulb, I would suggest getting Philips X-treme Power or Osram Night Breakers. They are brighter than stock bulbs but have the same wattage so no upgrades needed.
2. Your problem might be with the headlight assembly.
-Could be that the reflectors and glass are already dirty and needs to be cleaned
-Misaligned beam. Try to check whether your headlight is properly aimed.
3. As far as I know your car comes with fog lights. Check whether they are in good condition and if they are, try using stock bulbs or better than stock bulbs and that would really help.

[rion]

I have 99 Galant VR V6 , and the lights are very low! I think no one will be offended even if I used the HIGH BEAM! I had passenger once who even told me to open the my headlights, when in fact it already is! What an insult! That is why i'm planning to buy 'em HIDS! But my wife thinks otherwise. Any of you guys know a place for cheap HID's? With good quality of course!

kung visibility lang hanap mo. better upgrade wires/ground, clean, align the headlights.

with HID, it is potential to glare other motorist, even less visibilty for you.

just look at the road, not the light: