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  1. Join Date
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    Hello, nabangga yung 2009 Honda Jazz ko last sunday night.

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    nadala na sya sa casa, ang estimated na cost is:

    Total labor: 104,899.52
    Total parts: 378, 329.54
    Total paint materials: 28,000
    Total shop materials: 4,480

    TOTAL JOB COST: 515,709.06

    of course since casa to, the parts might be way overpriced. my question is, do you guys think na kaya pa to dalhin sa accredited repair shop (sabi ng insurance ko, accredited daw nila yung Technique Automobile sa Paco, Manila) where sabi ng insurance, mas madali mapalitan ng surplus yung parts so mas mura? or mag pa declare na lang ako ng total loss tapos dalhin ko sa ibang repair shop kung saan ako mas makakamura rin?

    eto yung works to be done sabi ng casa:

    a) Remove/Reinstall all involved parts

    b) straighten/reform/align & weld RH Front and read door panel, LH front and rear door panel, LH Quarter panel, tailgate panel, sparetire compartment, RH gutter, RH inner rear panel, front bumper beam, rear end panel, bulkhead assy

    c) Repaint/ Rubdown repaired areas to body color, all panels

    d) rustrproofing

    e) electrical works
    -replace left and right headlight assy, right tail light assy/ check and evaluate all electrical wirings and connections

    f) mechanical works
    -replace right rear suspensions

    g) Glassman works
    -replace rear windshield/ pull down right quarter glass to give way to replace right quarter panel

    h) chassis alignment (minor)
    -rear

    i) wheel alignment via quick check 1350

    j) upholstery wworks
    -replace roof lining/right rear linings

    k) interior detailing with engine wash

    l) mount/dismount tires per wheel
    -right rear magwheel

    m)aircon works
    -replace AC Condenser

    n) replace radiator assy

    o) check engine performance

    Sa parts, mahaba yung listahan. so ang question ko is, what's the best option:
    a) have everything repaired with Honda
    b) have it repaired to insurance company's accredited repaired shop
    c) get money from total loss then have it repaired with some cheaper repair shop?
    d) any other suggestions?

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    what do you mean get money from total loss then have it repaired? eh wala ka ng unit pag total loss and file mo sa insurance

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    Insurance mo ang mag shoshoulder ng majority of the expenses.

    Wag kang papayag na surplus lang ang ipapalit na mga parts.

    Also you cant claim the car ata once na declare na as total loss. so di mo sya mapapagawa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    what do you mean get money from total loss then have it repaired? eh wala ka ng unit pag total loss and file mo sa insurance

    pag declared syang total wreck, i get to keep the car. tapos ang makukuha ko is sum insured (420,000 pesos) minus salvage value.

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    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..

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    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..

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    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..


    no, my insurance policy says that i get to keep the car. tapos ang makukuha ko is sum insured (420,000 pesos) minus salvage value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..

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    pag total wreck the insurance company gets the car..

    medyo matagal na process yan.. baka kulang 6 months dyan..


    no, my insurance policy says that i get to keep the car. tapos ang makukuha ko is sum insured (420,000 pesos) minus salvage value.

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    you have an insurance.... ipasok mo sa casa.... comprehensive naman yan and dapat wala kang aabunohan.

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    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit

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    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit

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    ilang % sagot nang insurance?? may depreciation na yan.. plus participation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    you have an insurance.... ipasok mo sa casa.... comprehensive naman yan and dapat wala kang aabunohan.
    2009 pa kasi yung car. so 30 percent ng price ng brand new parts babayaran ko pa rin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki13 View Post
    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit

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    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit
    cos im imagining na maliit lang makukuha kong pera because of depreciation. wala akong preference, but i wanna know lang saang option can i get the most benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki13 View Post
    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit

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    ^ok yan ah, you get the car and the cash.

    do you really want to repair the car? IMO spend the cash on a brand new unit
    cos im imagining na maliit lang makukuha kong pera because of depreciation. wala akong preference, but i wanna know lang saang option can i get the most benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    ilang % sagot nang insurance?? may depreciation na yan.. plus participation..
    pinproblema ko yung pagpapaayos kasi kung sa casa ipagawa, magbabayad ako ng participation fee sa casa plus 30% ng amount ng new parts na ipapalit nila.

    kung sa accredited shop ng insurance company ko naman ipagawa, pag surplus parts ang ipapalit nila, wala na kong babayaran.

    so iniisip ko kung mas makakamura ba ako kung ipadeclare kong total loss. in which case bibigyan ako ng cash ng insurance which is amount insured (420,000) minus the salvage value. tapos ako ang magkikeep ng car ayon sa insurance policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirkel View Post
    pinproblema ko yung pagpapaayos kasi kung sa casa ipagawa, magbabayad ako ng participation fee sa casa plus 30% ng amount ng new parts na ipapalit nila.

    kung sa accredited shop ng insurance company ko naman ipagawa, pag surplus parts ang ipapalit nila, wala na kong babayaran.

    so iniisip ko kung mas makakamura ba ako kung ipadeclare kong total loss. in which case bibigyan ako ng cash ng insurance which is amount insured (420,000) minus the salvage value. tapos ako ang magkikeep ng car ayon sa insurance policy.
    Sir may LOA ka na ba for total loss? kasi po ang alam ko aside from salvage value i-minus din yung partcipation fee mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirkel View Post
    pinproblema ko yung pagpapaayos kasi kung sa casa ipagawa, magbabayad ako ng participation fee sa casa plus 30% ng amount ng new parts na ipapalit nila.

    kung sa accredited shop ng insurance company ko naman ipagawa, pag surplus parts ang ipapalit nila, wala na kong babayaran.

    so iniisip ko kung mas makakamura ba ako kung ipadeclare kong total loss. in which case bibigyan ako ng cash ng insurance which is amount insured (420,000) minus the salvage value. tapos ako ang magkikeep ng car ayon sa insurance policy.
    Sir may LOA ka na ba for total loss? kasi po ang alam ko aside from salvage value i-minus din yung partcipation fee mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirkel View Post
    pinproblema ko yung pagpapaayos kasi kung sa casa ipagawa, magbabayad ako ng participation fee sa casa plus 30% ng amount ng new parts na ipapalit nila.

    kung sa accredited shop ng insurance company ko naman ipagawa, pag surplus parts ang ipapalit nila, wala na kong babayaran.
    Ano ba ang insurance mo? pagka alam ko karamihan ng isurance company ay accredited ng mga casa. bat ka magbabayad ng 30% sa replaced parts eh compre naman insurance mo? tama ba? whatever nasirang parts during accident ay wala kang dapat bayaran except participation fee lang unless may exception clause sa insurance policy mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirkel View Post
    pinproblema ko yung pagpapaayos kasi kung sa casa ipagawa, magbabayad ako ng participation fee sa casa plus 30% ng amount ng new parts na ipapalit nila.

    kung sa accredited shop ng insurance company ko naman ipagawa, pag surplus parts ang ipapalit nila, wala na kong babayaran.
    Ano ba ang insurance mo? pagka alam ko karamihan ng isurance company ay accredited ng mga casa. bat ka magbabayad ng 30% sa replaced parts eh compre naman insurance mo? tama ba? whatever nasirang parts during accident ay wala kang dapat bayaran except participation fee lang unless may exception clause sa insurance policy mo

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    ^5 years na yung jazz ni sir kaya may additional 30% participation sa pyesa.

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    Sir pwede mag ask kung pano ka nabangga? May bumangga ba?

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    same dilemma before car is already 6 years old nung nabangga still in compre insurance.

    We got offered 2 options:

    You get the car + an amount

    Insurance get your car in exchange for the insured amount minus yung deductibles.

    We opted to get the insured amount, hassle magpagawa ng malaking damage. Kaya nga even the insurance is declaring it as total loss sila.

    Malaki pa yung amount ng damage sa value ng kotse.

    Eto offer pala nahalukay ko pa hehe




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    Compute mo sir how much aabutin ng salvage value na idededuct sa amount insured mo. Kung less than 100k go for it. Then pa ayos mo nalang yung car with surplus parts tapos benta mo. Ang laki din kasi ng 30% na depreciation na babayaran mo sa parts eh kung ipapaayos mo and kung surplus naman for sure wala pang 1 year meron na lalabas na problem sa car mo.

    In my exprience before kasi I opted for surplus parts to be installed para participation nalang bayaran ko. I still end up replacing some of those parts with brand new after 8 months. So after nun naisip ko sana brand new nalang kinuha ko para kahati insurance sa cost ng bagong part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirkel View Post
    no, my insurance policy says that i get to keep the car. tapos ang makukuha ko is sum insured (420,000 pesos) minus salvage value.

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    no, my insurance policy says that i get to keep the car. tapos ang makukuha ko is sum insured (420,000 pesos) minus salvage value.
    too good to be true... you keep the car and get the money. hope you clear this with them and have everything documented and signed.

    usually the insurance pays you and because they "bought" the car from you, this becomes their property.

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    If you want to retain the car, another option would be to carefully assess which parts to be repaired, replaced by surplus and which to be replaced by brand new parts to ensure na good condition pa din yung car. Pag dating naman sa labor shoulder ng insurance.

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